Are you a Democrat or Republican???

**Iron Warrior** · 08-11-2007, 01:51 AM

I'm fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I don't know what phuckin party that is but that's what I believe in

Spatch: You're probably a good kid in the real world but geez bro, analyze things a little bit before you make those statements

**kwyckemynd00** · 08-11-2007, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Iron Warrior

I'm fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I don't know what phuckin party that is but that's what I believe in

You'd probably fit really well with the "general" libertarian philosophies.

**Frank Costanza** · 08-11-2007, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CDB

Q: What's a conservative?
A: A liberal who made it through adolescence.

**Frank Costanza** · 08-11-2007, 08:45 AM

Defiently not a Democrat.

"The WAPO reports that House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) went on the record that a positive report from Iraq would be "a real big problem for us."

**spatch** · 08-11-2007, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Iron Warrior

Spatch: You're probably a good kid in the real world but geez bro, analyze things a little bit before you make those statements

I'm not into politics much, except for expanding persoanl rights that republicans dont want us to have, so I pop jokes. I could go on and on about how the Republican War on Drugs is one of the stupidest things this country has ever done, but we have all heard it before.

**spatch** · 08-11-2007, 10:24 AM

So how about this idea for socialized medicine. Keep in mind I'm a biochem major, not an economics major, so take it easy...

Keep everything the way it is right now, except pay for it with taxes. So you go to what ever doctor you want, just like right now, but instead of you paying it is payed for with tax money. Doctors would still have competition to be the best they can be to keep/get new patients, and it wouldnt take long to get things done like in Canada.

**RedwolfWV** · 08-11-2007, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by spatch

So how about this idea for socialized medicine. Keep in mind I'm a biochem major, not an economics major, so take it easy...

Keep everything the way it is right now, except pay for it with taxes. So you go to what ever doctor you want, just like right now, but instead of you paying it is payed for with tax money. Doctors would still have competition to be the best they can be to keep/get new patients, and it wouldnt take long to get things done like in Canada.

And who are you going to tax to pay for this???

**spatch** · 08-11-2007, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RedwolfWV

And who are you going to tax to pay for this???

The citizens of America. I don't see how paying taxes to pay for medical care is that big a deal. I mean are we that cold hearted that we wont pay taxes to heal the sick? I realize that helping people may not be a "traditional" value, no offence intended.

Keep in mind after you pay the taxes you will no longer have to pay for health insurance.

**RedwolfWV** · 08-11-2007, 12:01 PM

Do you have any idea how many TRILLIONS of dollars its going to cost?

There is going to come a time, when the "rich" people of this country say PISS OFF and move out. That 5% of the population is pretty much supporting the entire tax system as it is. I just don't think they should have to pay any more.

Now, if you were to get rid of an equal amount of federal spending, I might be able to go for it. So, what programs to we cut?? How about we make all people on welfare take a monthly drug test. If they fail the test... NO CHECK. I'll bet that would cut the welfare rolls by at least 30%. Theres a good start!

**Frank Costanza** · 08-11-2007, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by spatch

The citizens of America. I don't see how paying taxes to pay for medical care is that big a deal. I mean are we that cold hearted that we wont pay taxes to heal the sick? I realize that helping people may not be a "traditional" value, no offence intended.

Keep in mind after you pay the taxes you will no longer have to pay for health insurance.

We already do pay taxes for Medicare and Medicaid...two programs that are deadlocked in corruption and abuse BECAUSE its run by the federal government. Now you genius's on the left seem to ignore this fact as well as the other well run socialized benefit program called Social Security which will go bankrupt without reform.

Bottom line is I don't want my tax money going to another program which will be ripe with mismanagement and corruption when I can pay for my own health insurance and deal with them myself....not go through the government which will be 10x worse.

You don't take the second most corrupt and mismanaged system and combine it with the MOST corrupt and mismanaged system. Its common sense.

**Frank Costanza** · 08-11-2007, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by spatch

So how about this idea for socialized medicine. Keep in mind I'm a biochem major, not an economics major, so take it easy...

Keep everything the way it is right now, except pay for it with taxes. So you go to what ever doctor you want, just like right now, but instead of you paying it is payed for with tax money. Doctors would still have competition to be the best they can be to keep/get new patients, and it wouldnt take long to get things done like in Canada.

Einstein, you still have the problem of the government wanting to CUT COSTS so what do you think they will do? The same thing the insurance companies will do...hire doctors to screen what it needed and what is not hence you have the same problem you have now on top of the problem of managing health insurance for 300 million people. Real smart idea.

The idea that the government is going to hand over money and "take care of you the best they can" is ridiculous and naive.

**CDB** · 08-11-2007, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by spatch

I'm not into politics much, except for expanding persoanl rights that republicans dont want us to have, so I pop jokes. I could go on and on about how the Republican War on Drugs is one of the stupidest things this country has ever done, but we have all heard it before.

Unfortunately if you look back to the eighties and before it was the Democrats pushing the War on Drugs to prove their law and order nature, and are just as much to blame on the issue as any Republican. And, as an activist on the issue in my college years one of the first things we were taught is that Republicans were almost always the best shot at getting such laws repealed or delegated to individual states to decide. I saw no let up in federal crack downs of medical marijuana during Clinton's tenure, nor do I see it happening now that the supposedly socially liberal Democrats are in control of congress.

Reaper329 · 08-11-2007, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Iron Warrior

I'm fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I don't know what phuckin party that is but that's what I believe in

Spatch: You're probably a good kid in the real world but geez bro, analyze things a little bit before you make those statements

You just described me as well. Libretarian is the best party under those criteria

**Iron Warrior** · 08-11-2007, 02:33 PM

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You just described me as well. Libretarian is the best party under those criteria

All I want to know is where their candidates are ? Anyone know who is actually a threat from the Libertarian party at this moment ?

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08-11-2007, 06:11 PM	#75
kwyckemynd00 My P3N1Z is chafed.