Holy Sh*t Bush Has Made War Protest Illegal !!!
- 07-21-2007, 09:57 AM
Holy Sh*t Bush Has Made War Protest Illegal !!!
Message to the Congress of the United States Regarding International Emergency Economic Powers Act
Well on the bright side, at least after they seize all you property and assets and imprison you , they can't torture you too much !
we are now officially doomed !
- 07-22-2007, 01:58 AM
Yeah I like that whole "pose a risk of". How exactly can that be determined and how is it even remotely legal to prosecute someone for "future crimes".
****, even in Minority Report they at least had those precog people who could actually see the future.
- 07-22-2007, 02:42 PM
"I hereby report that I have issued an Executive Order blocking property of persons determined to have committed __________________ an act or acts of violence that have the purpose or effect of threatening the peace or stability of Iraq or the Government of Iraq or undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq or to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people."
But, when you consider this part I omitted, or to pose a significant risk of, this is worrisome and could be abused very readily.
07-22-2007, 10:25 PM
07-23-2007, 09:28 AM
time to break out the jack-boots & armbands, boys!
07-25-2007, 07:59 PM
If treasonous speech was illegal then John Murtha, Michael Moore, Obama, Edwards, Gore and just about every other democrat besides Leberman would be down vacationing in Gitmo.
07-25-2007, 08:24 PM
07-25-2007, 09:36 PM
Dude, you are one seriously ****ed up ombre if you don't see a problem with using the words "pose a risk of" in a legal document. "Pose a risk of" doesn't mean attempt, buddy boy. It means someone thinks they might do something sometime in the future. No timeline has to be given even according to this document. To top it off, only 1 guy has to make the call and he doesn't have to answer to anyone. So there doesn't have to be a reason at all.
This isn't about right and left. Wake the **** up, kiddo. This is about an executive order that we'd expect to see in the USSR not the USA.
07-25-2007, 09:43 PM
"I hereby report that I have issued an Executive Order blocking property of persons determined to have committed, or to pose a significant risk of committing, an act or acts of violence that have the purpose or effect of threatening the peace or stability of Iraq or the Government of Iraq or undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq or to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people."
and what can we do about this? nothing.
i can absolutely see how protesting the war makes a person a target of this order. this is truly scary
07-25-2007, 09:59 PM
What's really really ****ed up about this is, complaining about Haliburton in any way can make you a target:
"pose a significant risk of... undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction"
Since Haliburton has all those contracts, if you do anything to hurt that company they can say you are undermining the efforts to promote economic reconstruction in Iraq.
07-25-2007, 10:11 PM
No court of law would side with an attack on free speech, and no president is stupid enough to even attempt to attack free speech. (Some democrats are attempting though with the "fairness" doctrine.)
In today's age of radically anti Bush, anti executive power media if someone was actually abused the media would parade them around for the next 3 years.
07-25-2007, 10:14 PM
07-25-2007, 10:16 PM
07-25-2007, 10:35 PM
the supreme court? id like to ahve some of what YOU are smoking my friend. there are 9 members of the supreme court...with the majority of sitting judges republicans. it doesnt matter what bush does, he is always going to have support from the republicans, including those sitting on the supreme court.
07-25-2007, 11:02 PM
07-25-2007, 11:06 PM
But jomi, that's the way it is with the radical right, if you shift too far from their system of beliefs, you are either on drugs (preferably smoking something), a nutcase, nutjob (the term "nut" is such a powerful arguement that it may adorned with any number of suffixes). A tinfoil hat wearer, drinking Kool-Aid (whether the implication is the Kool-Aid contains drugs or cyanide, I'm not sure), a pinko, an America-Hater. This list is not exhaustive. Facts are secondary or minor considerations.
07-25-2007, 11:11 PM
07-25-2007, 11:13 PM
ive read it. gives bush complete dictatorial power over the entire nation.
bet it happens right before elections
07-25-2007, 11:21 PM
07-25-2007, 11:29 PM
or the other...TERRORIST. I think CNorris likes to use both of these together while trying to make some point about how evil these people (liberls or those who believe differently than him) are. From what i gather from his pontifications, liberals are more of a threat to this country than al qaeda. I guess since I can be considered a liberal i am therefor 'threatening the peace or stability of Iraq or the Government of Iraq or undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq or to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people'. Should I be expecting a visit from the spetsnaz or SS, CNorris?
07-25-2007, 11:40 PM
I cant wait for martial law to be declared! Then I can practice my martial arts and do some round house kicks!
07-25-2007, 11:43 PM
07-25-2007, 11:50 PM
07-26-2007, 01:00 AM
07-26-2007, 01:06 AM
Get it through your head: Most Americans don't necessarily hate or fear the government as you've eluded to countless times. They are fed-up with, and completely distrust, this administration.. But then again, you wouldn't have your "America-Haters"" talking point if you didn't make the former assumption.
07-26-2007, 07:45 AM
07-26-2007, 07:48 AM
07-26-2007, 07:51 AM
07-26-2007, 03:27 PM
I'm just waiting for Bobo and Dr. John to chime in here.
07-26-2007, 06:30 PM
Since when is commiting acts of voilence a form of protesting? I wish left wing idiot protesters became violent. I would love to get a gun and rid this planet of some useless flesh.
07-26-2007, 06:31 PM
07-26-2007, 07:29 PM
07-26-2007, 09:25 PM
07-26-2007, 10:34 PM
TSA to police: Look out for possible terrorist attack 'dry runs' - CNN.com
Looks pretty innocent to me! If you are threatened by the government being alarmed over this, you are the kind of person that would get attacked first if this was a fair world.
Since you cant F#CKING read, I will repeat myself.
ITS NOT PROTESTING. SEE!
07-26-2007, 10:37 PM
When a person is offended by the government investigating why wires and cheese would be taped together, and not offended by the government controlling media like a Stalinist society we have a problem.
07-26-2007, 10:57 PM
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07-26-2007, 11:06 PM
07-27-2007, 05:01 AM
Let's get real guys.
1. No one in here is a threat to the peace and prosperity of Iraq here. Let's not believe for a second that the gov't will start rounding up Americans who don't vote republican. We're all just a bunch of bodybuilders, not terrorists. It's just more scare tactics which can even further divide us citizens if we allow it to.
2. Everything gets blown out of proportion when you're the president. People hated Clinton because he got a blow job, smoked weed, and just about pardoned every crook he knew. People hate Bush because they think he is stupid or because he nearly choked on a pretzel, or because they compare him to Hitler. It seems as if the only way a president is considered a hero by the masses is if he gets assassinated like Lincoln or Kennedy.
3. A lot of people attack Bush from a corruption angle but let's be real. Every administration has had corruption and scandals. Even the NBA is fukcing rigged now a day LOL.
4. If someone is posing a violent threat then I would hope we do something about it, don't you ? The president is in a no win situation. If he passes no bill then he will get criticized for not passing enough anti-terror bills. If he passes an anti-terror bill then he's suddenly compared to Hitler or Stalin. It's just impossible to satisfy all the people all the time.
07-27-2007, 09:50 AM
Again, the issue was not why the TSA stopped these people. They did their jobs quite well. But why did washington feel the need to use the term "Dry-Run" when there in fact wasn't one??
I dont know why i bother explaining this to you, your helpless and i feel sorry for you.
07-27-2007, 10:06 AM
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It isn't? Oh I got it, its because they used the term dry run in a memo. Stop the presses!!!!Again, the issue was not why the TSA stopped these people.
That poor old woman that had cheese in her luggage, surrounded with ice packs that leaked, and a cell phone charger next to it
You do understand that to determine if its a legit dry run or not they do actually have to stop and investigate...but I forgot, its not why they stopped them.
Do you always misinterpret this bad? Its always been policy to detain anyone showing and or even speaking about threatening the President. I got a bet for you. Go to Washington, go to the White House, hold up your anti-war protest sign and see if you get arrested. If you do, I'll give you $1,000 and pay for your trip. Lets just see how bad you misinterpret these Executive Orders.cause the fairness doctrine is much worse than an executive order allowing the president to detain anyone he thinks is a threat to him.
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