[anabolicrhino]

[Frank Costanza]

Originally Posted by anabolicrhino

It amazes me how ignorant people are of Hitler....

[kwyckemynd00]

Next thing you know Hitler will be the new muslim Santa Clause.

I didn't know they loved the guy that much.

[Rufio]

A direct comparison between Bush and Hitler is retarded, BUT comparing the media use of 9/11 to the propaganda following the Reichstagg fire is a decent parallel. Hitler used that to justify invading countries he already wanted to invade based on security and retaliation. He also called upon German patriotism.


Of course there are several BETTER parallels involving false pretexts for war. The best parallel would be the "war on drugs" being used to justify invading governments that oppose US corporate profiteering. I can see why an Arab could get overly emotional about the situation, though. Between the invasion of Iraq, leaving Afghanistan in the hands of North Alliance warlords, and vetoing the UN ceasefire regarding Gaza, there has been a significant increase in suffering in the Arab world.

Anyway I don't really get why everyone loves Hitler parallels so much. A lot of what Hitler did is standard for every country on the planet. I think Hitler just became synonymous with evil because his idealogy resembled that of a comic book supervillain and unlike most dictators, he was actually taken down in a huge war.


There was a quote from Herman Goering that I think is accurate for how MOST world leaders justify their quests for power:

"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them that they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

[spunkles182]

Originally Posted by Bobo

It amazes me how ignorant people are of Hitler....

in what ways?

[anabolicrhino]

Originally Posted by Rufio

A direct comparison between Bush and Hitler is retarded, BUT comparing the media use of 9/11 to the propaganda following the Reichstagg fire is a decent parallel. Hitler used that to justify invading countries he already wanted to invade based on security and retaliation. He also called upon German patriotism.

"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them that they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

That is a great quote I remember when Goering was on Foxnews
when he said that...and..oops

One interesting parallel between the two leaders is that Prescott Bush GWB's grandfather , was the liaison between Hitler and the New York Banking interests that supported Hitler until the US government charged them with the aiding the enemy act.

[Frank Costanza]

Originally Posted by spunkles182

in what ways?

Character, beliefs, actions, etc....

[Frank Costanza]

Originally Posted by Rufio

"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them that they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

And sometimes it doesn't. The German people put on a nice show for the camera but public sentiment didn't approve of Hitler very much....they we're just forced to.

[Frank Costanza]

Originally Posted by Rufio

A direct comparison between Bush and Hitler is retarded, BUT comparing the media use of 9/11 to the propaganda following the Reichstagg fire is a decent parallel. Hitler used that to justify invading countries he already wanted to invade based on security and retaliation. He also called upon German patriotism.

Actually he orchestrated 16 different incidents in which German soldiers attacked German targets using Polish soldier uniforms to appear that they crossed the border to attack Germany.

The Reichstag fire happened in 1933 (war started in 39) and established the Nazi party and their policies....it had little to do with invading Poland or Austria in the early years of World War II. Germany actually signed a non aggression pact with Poland in 34 in which the German public didn't agree with because of territory they received after World War I.

German patriotism had very little to do with it.

[CDB]

Originally Posted by Rufio

Anyway I don't really get why everyone loves Hitler parallels so much. A lot of what Hitler did is standard for every country on the planet. I think Hitler just became synonymous with evil because his idealogy resembled that of a comic book supervillain and unlike most dictators, he was actually taken down in a huge war.

He was kind of banal in himself. But, he introduced the assembly line to genocide. That's worth of a bit of notoriety.

[Tiberius]

Originally Posted by CDB

He was kind of banal in himself. But, he introduced the assembly line to genocide. That's worth of a bit of notoriety.

The Ottomons were the first to do that during the Armenian genocide. They didn't organize the genocide like that though until close to the end of WWI. By the end of WWI the Ottoman empire no longer existed.

[CDB]

Originally Posted by Tiberius

The Ottomons were the first to do that during the Armenian genocide. They didn't organize the genocide like that though until close to the end of WWI. By the end of WWI the Ottoman empire no longer existed.

They were organized but still primitive. Mass shootings and drownings, etc. Hitler actuallyhad 'factories' set up for the purpose of mass killing was my meaning. I think mass shootings were considered and rejected because of the impracticality of the idea. From home to camp, camp to gas chamber, gas chamber to incinerator, done. Neat, tidy, and efficient. Remarkably sick too.

[Tiberius]

Originally Posted by CDB

They were organized but still primitive. Mass shootings and drownings, etc. Hitler actuallyhad 'factories' set up for the purpose of mass killing was my meaning. I think mass shootings were considered and rejected because of the impracticality of the idea. From home to camp, camp to gas chamber, gas chamber to incinerator, done. Neat, tidy, and efficient. Remarkably sick too.

The mass shootings in the Armenian genocide were earlier. Towards the end they had them shipped off to camps where they were systematically executed. They were very organized and systematic in their execution of the genocide. They had all Armenians stripped of property and possessions and then deported to camps. The conditions under which they were deported were so horrendous a large number died on the road to get there. The roads were literally lined with corpses.

It is believed there were around 25 concentration camps built to execute Armenians. The Ottomans experimented with various methods of mass execution including but not limited to, mass drowning, mass shooting, mass burning, and mass poisoning.

[texxlnghorn]

I still can't believe a muslim got elected to congress

[Tiberius]

Originally Posted by texxlnghorn

I still can't believe a muslim got elected to congress

Pretty shocking. Even more shocking are the 2 Buddhists. I think no one realized that Buddhists are atheists.

[kwyckemynd00]