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Old 07-23-2007, 06:22 AM   #31
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You might want to back up out of black helicopter territory there now. mmkay?
The quality of my life will not change if you refuse to accept the existence of operations beneath what is talked about in the main stream media.

However even though you are not the thought police I appreciate any advice you wish to share and I would hope you feel the same.

Here's an interesting turn of events

So, the world(US/UN) is left with an interesting dilemma. The ruling party of Turkey will be Islamic, but who are the bad guys again?

Though a NATO ally, Turkey refused to participate in the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq. And it has been increasingly critical of the U.S.-backed Iraqi government's failure to crack down on Kurdish separatists it says are using Iraq's Kurdish territories as a staging area for attacks on turkish soil
 
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Are you sure about that?
Well if you're gonna get all technical you could say Buddhists are "pantheists" meaning they might define god as "all of existence". However even under that definition, they do not think of god as being sentient even in the slightest. So it's really the same as not believing in god at all. They do not believe in a creator, nor do they believe that there is a secret all powerful being pulling strings behind the scenes. They don't believe in all powerful beings at all.

Hence for all intents and purposes, Buddhists are atheists.
 
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Well if you're gonna get all technical you could say Buddhists are "pantheists" meaning they might define god as "all of existence". However even under that definition, they do not think of god as being sentient even in the slightest. So it's really the same as not believing in god at all. They do not believe in a creator, nor do they believe that there is a secret all powerful being pulling strings behind the scenes. They don't believe in all powerful beings at all.

Hence for all intents and purposes, Buddhists are atheists.
Technical when Buddhists realize that they're are both everything and they are nothing, they become both sentient and not sentient. When they are sentient, their concept of god is sentient.
 
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Technical when Buddhists realize that they're are both everything and they are nothing, they become both sentient and not sentient. When they are sentient, their concept of god is sentient.
Buddhists do not believe in a creator. Nor do they believe in an omnipotent being.
 
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Buddhists do not believe in a creator. Nor do they believe in an omnipotent being.
Do you believe that the words "creator", "omnipotent being" and "sentient" are synonymous (mean the same thing) ?

Otherwise your response seems redundant to the discussion.
 
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Do you believe that the words "creator", "omnipotent being" and "sentient" are synonymous (mean the same thing) ?

Otherwise your response seems redundant to the discussion.
No. Sentient means simply self aware and intelligent. it has nothing to do with a being's power. Humans are sentient. We believe Dolphins may be sentient. Chimps are almost deifnitely sentient. Cats are not sentient. Sentience really just means driven by something other than pure blind instinct.
 
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