[anabolicrhino]

NEW WORLD RHINOS: MICHAEL MOORE SCHOOLS THE WOLF ! ! !

[spunkles182]

Originally Posted by anabolicrhino

NEW WORLD RHINOS: MICHAEL MOORE SCHOOLS THE WOLF ! ! !

now i can understand why michael moore wants subsidized healthcare. hes so fat and out of shape he would have to pay a fortune if he had to pay it himeself.

and speaking of wait times, i had to go to the doctor today (family practitioner) i called at 7:30am to make an appointment and saw the doctor today at 9:00am. thats some wait time

[Tiberius]

Originally Posted by anabolicrhino

NEW WORLD RHINOS: MICHAEL MOORE SCHOOLS THE WOLF ! ! !

Moore is a damn pinko for sure but you're right, he DESTROYED Wolf in that clip. It was pretty embarrassing to watch.

[Rufio]

Originally Posted by spunkles182

now i can understand why michael moore wants subsidized healthcare. hes so fat and out of shape he would have to pay a fortune if he had to pay it himeself.

LMFAO!

[neoborn]

I firstly want to say PWNED! and then secondly ....what's a pinko

[billm311]

michael moore is nothing more than an extreme leftist commie pinko that excels at making propaganda movies.

even with the troubles the healthcare system has, where would anyone rather be than america when they have a true health problem?

i apologize if i offend anyone, but I cant stand that guy

[Rufio]

Er, Michael Moore's not that extreme. I'd be willing to do a comparison between him and the other pundits you can think of. People who put Moore as the left equivalent of Ann Coulter are tripping. Michael Moore is basically the left wing equivalent of Glenn Beck. "Bush sucks," "American culture romanticizes violence and we should have some gun control," and "universal health care is good" are not fringe extremist ideas. Moore does misrepresent several facts and makes trumped up conspiracy theories to make his case, but who doesn't? Moore's degree of bias is pretty standard among pundits. The two times I think Moore really stepped out of line were using that kid to boycott Wal-Mart in Bowling for Columbine and the claim in Faranheit 9/11 where he said something to the effect of Iraq having never taken one American life.


Moore is a pundit, therefore he makes biased argumenents. But let's not pretend that he's much worse than all the other pundits out there. He's not calling for anything like genocide or a massive restriction of civil liberties.

[neoborn]

You guys may hate more but I find his films refreshing and a good representative of the state of the country, more so than the evening news!

*Note* I am a Brit living in Canada so I don't truly know what it's like, you guys live it

[Skeptic]

Originally Posted by neoborn

You guys may hate more but I find his films refreshing and a good representative of the state of the country, more so than the evening news!

*Note* I am a Brit living in Canada so I don't truly know what it's like, you guys live it

I am an American who has lived in several parts of the world, including Europe and South America, and I think Moore is an American hero.

Many Americans, like some on this forum, are in denial about the state of our country. They've been so brainwashed into thinking we are the greatest country on the face of this earth, that there is no room for improvement or criticism.

They are so backwards in their thinking that they denounce anybody who doesn't think like them as "pinkos" or "commies", as if we were still living in Joseph McCarthy's 1950s.

These are people who will wave the American flag as our president is pissing on the U.S. Constitution. Who are more apt to vote on American Idol than the Presidential Election. Who will fight for the freedoms of their corporate slave masters as they drown in debt in desperately trying to keep up appearances.

They are the few. The proud. The 30 percenters who still support Bush because "he sticks to what he believes in" -- regardless of reality.

They are our sheep.

[Frank Costanza]

Originally Posted by Skeptic

I am an American who has lived in several parts of the world, including Europe and South America, and I think Moore is an American hero.

Doesn't surprise me. Then there are people on this forum who thank god everyday we aren't like Europe and South America.

Many Americans, like some on this forum, are in denial about the state of our country. They've been so brainwashed into thinking we are the greatest country on the face of this earth, that there is no room for improvement or criticism.

It must work on all those illegal immigrants trying to come here as well. We are so good at brainwashing our own citizens, we can actually extend it to other countries as well.

They are so backwards in their thinking that they denounce anybody who doesn't think like them as "pinkos" or "commies", as if we were still living in Joseph McCarthy's 1950s.

Funny, I don't think its the conservatives who call Bush Hitler...

Its not the right wing that wants to shut down talk radio because the left can't hang. Its so funny you liberals talk about rights and free speech...as long as its speech you agree with. If not, you want it regulated. Hypocrites.

These are people who will wave the American flag as our president is pissing on the U.S. Constitution.

That was 85% of the public in 2002. Pissing on the Constitution? Yeah, he's restricted so many things in my life. I can't do nearly as much as I did back in 2000. Its so oppressive in this country...

What a joke.

Who are more apt to vote on American Idol than the Presidential Election.

Who will fight for the freedoms of their corporate slave masters as they drown in debt in desperately trying to keep up appearances.

My debt is just fine. But maybe I'm brainwashed to tihnk that.

They are the few. The proud. The 30 percenters who still support Bush because "he sticks to what he believes in" -- regardless of reality.

Kind of like the 26% who approve of that great Democratic Congress. They are doing a splendid job. All talk, no walk. That Pelosi is doing a GREAT job! Ask Cindy Sheehan!

They are our sheep.

Funny, I can't remember the last liberal President. Oh that must of been Carter..who had a worse rating than Bush WITHOUT a war.





According to people like you, the world is ending, America is crumbling and everyone is sheep. America is to blame, we aren't that great of a country, its always our fault, and France is heaven on Earth. Adieu!!!

[Frank Costanza]

Originally Posted by spunkles182

now i can understand why michael moore wants subsidized healthcare. hes so fat and out of shape he would have to pay a fortune if he had to pay it himeself.

and speaking of wait times, i had to go to the doctor today (family practitioner) i called at 7:30am to make an appointment and saw the doctor today at 9:00am. thats some wait time

Oh come on! You are just sheep! You are brainwashed! You didn't see your doctor that fast...you just THOUGHT you did!!!

[brogers]

Kind of like the 26% who approve of that great Democratic Congress.

Gallup has it @ 14%.

[Rufio]

Originally Posted by Bobo

Doesn't surprise me. Then there are people on this forum who thank god everyday we aren't like Europe and South America.

Yeah, thank God we don't have the greater sex and drug related freedom of places in Europe or the real democracy of Latin America where you can be elected to a high office without tons of corporate sponsors helping you along.

Originally Posted by Bobo

It must work on all those illegal immigrants trying to come here as well. We are so good at brainwashing our own citizens, we can actually extend it to other countries as well.

Because we're the only country in the world with immigrants. And "greatest" is subjective. The US is the richest, most powerful country in the world. It does not have the highest standard of living, life expectancy, or degree of civil liberties.

Originally Posted by Bobo

Funny, I don't think its the conservatives who call Bush Hitler...

Real conservatives would be against Bush's many radical policies. But yes, it goes both ways.

Originally Posted by Bobo

Its not the right wing that wants to shut down talk radio because the left can't hang. Its so funny you liberals talk about rights and free speech...as long as its speech you agree with. If not, you want it regulated. Hypocrites.

Indeed, it was the right wing that protested the show Politcally Incorrect because it expressed views they disagreed with, and DID get it shut down for pointing out the obvious. And it's the nationalistic media that distorts the words of anyone who points out some of the less-than-noble aspects of US foreign policy.


Both the left and the right do this. It's annoying that people have party loyalties that make them ignore the fact that both sides do the same thing and are devoted more to expanding their power and wealth than helping the citizens. National loyalty can blind someone's world view enough as it is without party loyalty.

Originally Posted by Bobo

That was 85% of the public in 2002. Pissing on the Constitution? Yeah, he's restricted so many things in my life. I can't do nearly as much as I did back in 2000. Its so oppressive in this country...

Maybe you have not been affected personally by the roll back on privacy, due process of law, etc. but other people have been. Some have been tortured in internment camps without charges just for suspicion of treason, eventually being let out because there was no proof.


But for the most part, yeah the US is pretty free on the world scale. Not as free as most of Europe, but it's a great place to live and it's easier to make money here than in many other countries. It's what the US leaders do to the rest of the world that is oppressive.

Originally Posted by Bobo

Funny, I can't remember the last liberal President. Oh that must of been Carter..who had a worse rating than Bush WITHOUT a war.

Mainly because he didn't BS about the state of the economy and he had conservative foreign policy which stressed diplomatic solutions over killing thousands of civilians. Actually I don't see how liberal Carter even was. He was in fact the president who made it standard to mix politics and religion.

Both his deficit and his international body count were markedly lower than Reagan's, however. It's funny how the evil liberal media pretty much gave Reagan a free pass after his assassination attempt. Lying about selling weapons to Iran and using the money to fund terrorists was given less attention than Clinton lying about his sex life or Bush Sr. lying about taxes.

Originally Posted by Bobo

According to people like you, the world is ending, America is crumbling and everyone is sheep. America is to blame, we aren't that great of a country, its always our fault, and France is heaven on Earth. Adieu!!!

While according to people like you, American leaders are always noble and heroic in their foreign policy unlike leaders everywhere else in the world, they never put power interests over the lives of civilians, it's evil to criticize America but hating France is okay, we'd care just as much about Iraq if its main source of income was exporting coconuts instead of oil, and everyone in the world who thinks otherwise is just jealous of America.

[Frank Costanza]

Originally Posted by Rufio

Yeah, thank God we don't have the greater sex and drug related freedom of places in Europe or the real democracy of Latin America where you can be elected to a high office without tons of corporate sponsors helping you along.

Yeah, their taxation and economic policy is going to bankrupt the continent. Real smart over there.

Latin America's track record is something to celebrate

Because we're the only country in the world with immigrants. And "greatest" is subjective. The US is the richest, most powerful country in the world. It does not have the highest standard of living, life expectancy, or degree of civil liberties.

Yeah, I see Western Europe and Latin America with a real immigrant problem...oh thats right, they all come here.

Real conservatives would be against Bush's many radical policies. But yes, it goes both ways.

And many are.

Indeed, it was the right wing that protested the show Politcally Incorrect because it expressed views they disagreed with, and DID get it shut down for pointing out the obvious. And it's the nationalistic media that distorts the words of anyone who points out some of the less-than-noble aspects of US foreign policy.

Really? What "right wing" shut down politically incorrect? They must have "The Daily Show" and "Countdown" targeted now. They also must have NBC, CBS and ABC targeted as well. I can't wait to shut them all down...

Both the left and the right do this. It's annoying that people have party loyalties that make them ignore the fact that both sides do the same thing and are devoted more to expanding their power and wealth than helping the citizens. National loyalty can blind someone's world view enough as it is without party loyalty.

Thats stating the obvious but I also study the world view and most of the time they criticize us while their own country is in shambles....or their irrelevant.

Maybe you have not been affected personally by the roll back on privacy, due process of law, etc. but other people have been. Some have been tortured in internment camps without charges just for suspicion of treason, eventually being let out because there was no proof.

Every government in the world does this and their isn't a government in the world, except the US, that has passed legslation stating that parts of the Geneva Convention apply to non citizens. France, England, Germany or any Middle Eastern have nothing even close.

But for the most part, yeah the US is pretty free on the world scale. Not as free as most of Europe, but it's a great place to live and it's easier to make money here than in many other countries. It's what the US leaders do to the rest of the world that is oppressive.

Really? England, France and most of western Europe tax more than the US. THey have more video and surveillance cameras in public spots wathcing you than the US by far. Their surveillance of the general public is MUCH more than US ever will. England and France both have legislation that gives the government the right to video and listen to you conversations for the protection of the people.....and its been in play for a long time.

"Public Video Surveillance in Other Countries

Canada began operating CCTV video surveillance on public streets and areas 5 years ago. Although its use is not as widespread as in the United Kingdom, CCTV surveill