Bill Orielly schooled by 16 year old student!
- 06-23-2007, 10:39 AM
Bill Orielly schooled by 16 year old student!
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I love this!!! First this kid slams him on a misquotation and has the document to back it up.
The 16 year old then takes a quote from Orielly's book that has Orielly condoning drug use and sticks it right up his butt,
Watch Orielly'face pucker
ding ding schools in !!! - 06-23-2007, 11:28 AM
An Orielly quote after someone said we would stop enforcing laws on consensual crimes- (Sarcastly) "Do you want this country to become Holland!?"
Yes, I want to cut our murder rate 8 fold, not be at war, have freedom were supposed to have, and not be attacked by terrorist. I'm not a violent man, but I would fight that ****bag Nazi any time any place. That and Ann Coulter, seeing as she is actually a man. -
- 06-23-2007, 12:20 PM
The real problem with O'Reilly is he never brings up issues that are actually important. He's a distraction, plain and simple.
- 06-23-2007, 12:20 PM
- 06-23-2007, 12:25 PM
That can happen with any hallucinagen.
Never went near any of those drugs, but when I was in college, one set of friends were kind of the "drug experimentation" group. They said whenever they did any kind of hallucinagen, payote, mushrooms, LSD, or even PCP, they made sure first they were in a happy environment, they weren't feeling any stress ahead of time, and there was virtually nothing around them that could hurt them. They also usually had some designated clearheaded guy around them to make sure they didn't do anything profoundly stupid.
Prohibition is stupid though. You could create so many jobs, employ so many people if they just removed prohibition. -
- 06-23-2007, 12:26 PM
- 06-23-2007, 01:19 PM
no, not really. ive treid them all and the only one that put me in a psychotic state was pcp. I thought I was talking to someone that i truely belived was there, but there was no one there.
I just dont like when people talk like they are experts on drugs (like bill oreilly) when they really have no idea. its like people telling you the ills of steroids when they dont know much about it or have never tried it.
but hey, drugs are bad mmmmmmmkay - 06-23-2007, 03:12 PM
- 06-24-2007, 12:38 AM
- 06-24-2007, 12:39 AM
- 06-24-2007, 12:43 AM
Not really. I read that transcript and heard the actual tape of what the guy said. He basically was telling 16yr kids that he would do X if he had some at the moment...they should experiment with same sax partners, etc, etc, etc....Bill's premise was correct but the kid was more worried about arguing over semantics instead of the overall point.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm going to encourage you to have sex, and I'm going to encourage you to use drugs appropriately.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's the thing they don't tell you about condoms. If you're lucky enough to get them on, and you still stay hard, it's hard to stay hard. And it doesn't feel as good.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you want to get marijuana in the city of Los Angeles, all you've got to do is go to a doctor who will write you a script. You go to a club.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's very natural for young people to experiment with same-sex relationships. Even today, there are psychiatrists who will do sessions under the influence of ecstasy. If I had some, maybe I'd do it with somebody.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Now, what is healthy sexual behavior? I don't care if it's with men and men, women and women, men and women. Whatever combination you would like to put together.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When you're thirteen, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, probably one of the most appropriate sexual behaviors would be masturbation. Masturbate! Please masturbate!
Not exactly what tax payers pay for their public school system. Not exactly what I would want my kids to hear at that moment in life as well.For answers to board issues, read the Suggestion and News forum at the bottom of the main page. - 06-24-2007, 01:04 AM
I could care less about who knows what. I don't want my 16yr old kid going to a publically funded school with these burnouts telling them to experiement with drugs, sex, etc.....
16yr old aren't allowed to post and discuss steroids on this board for a reason so forgive us "uptight" people when we don't want so called "lecturers" coming on our dime to tell my kids to experiment with everything that I've told them not to experiement with.
But lets continue to bash the guy that actually wants to protect kids a bit...
Sorry, I'm with Miller.
For answers to board issues, read the Suggestion and News forum at the bottom of the main page. - 06-24-2007, 01:53 AM
Bill O-Reilly only focuses on crap like abortion, drugs, same sex marriages, and all the other issues that aren't in the least bit important and aren't valid issues for any government to address.
The whole point is to distract the general public away from what is actually important: the economy. By him focusing on these issues, it shifts the public attention to them and thus allows ALL politicians to argue back and forth on those issues instead of important economic issues while they line their pockets, increase spending and taxes, and generally run the country into the ground. The economy is the root of every good time and bad time. Good ecomony with lots of high paying jobs means good times for all, lower crime, happier people, higher standard of living. All the stuff the average Joe actually cares about. When the economy is bad, you get fewer jobs, less money to go around, lower standard of living, lower paying jobs, more crime, more drug abuse, and most folks are generally miffed.
These social issues are distractions, nothing more. - 06-24-2007, 01:58 AM
Thats because he's a commentator, not a news outlet. Plus, I hate to tell, those issues above are really important to many people.
The whole point is to distract the general public away from what is actually important: the economy.
By him focusing on these issues, it shifts the public attention to them and thus allows ALL politicians to argue back and forth on those issues while they line their pockets, increase spending and taxes, and generally run the country into the ground.
The economy is the root of every good time and bad time. Good ecomony with lots of high paying jobs means good times for all, lower crime, happier people, higher standard of living. All the stuff the average Joe actually cares about. When the economy is bad, you get fewer jobs, less money to go around, lower standard of living, lower paying jobs, more crime, more drug abuse, and most folks are generally miffed.For answers to board issues, read the Suggestion and News forum at the bottom of the main page. - 06-24-2007, 04:08 AM
- 06-24-2007, 07:59 AM
- 06-24-2007, 08:00 AM
Regardless of the the subject or whether you agree or not with the debate...
The kid still schooled him on the facts and had the documented quotes to back it it up!
Bill lost a debate to a 16 year old high school kid then had the audacity to tell him what he was doing was wrong!
Yea ,Bill making you choke on your own words is "wrong"! - 06-24-2007, 08:03 AM
For answers to board issues, read the Suggestion and News forum at the bottom of the main page. - 06-24-2007, 11:55 AM
Important to people? Sure. But they should never have anything to do with the government.
To you.
Yes, Bill does all this.
What is an average Joe? You? You want financial info? Go watch CNBC.
Average Joe is entertained and distracted by the social issues; aka the pointless issues. That's why guys like Bill O'Reilly are successful. But that's also one of the reasons why we've got a real crisis on our hands when it comes to responsible government. It's one of the reasons why our governmnet is so bloated and is able to continue to bloat more and more.
The news and the political shows aren't doing their job. - 06-24-2007, 04:07 PM
According to you. Social issues will always be a part of the government.
So you're saying the economy isn't as important as whether or not your next door neighbor can get an abortion? Interesting.
Jeez man, way to misinterpret what I said. He's a PART of a segment of "entertainment" meant to distract the public from what's important. Think about it, the Socialists and the Republispendolots are pretty much the same party. All they do is argue back and forth on social issues. Occasionally some guy from one side or the other will start talking about issues that government IS supposed to address, but then the pother side just goes right back to talking about unimportant crap like flag burning or whether or not we should remove 'God' from the pedge of allegiance. For the most part when it comes down to writing laws, the two parties do much the same thing; load it up with pork spending. When it comes to most things the two parties pretty much look for every opportunity to line their pockets and the pockets of all their friends. Keep th public focused on stupid crap and they'll ignore the fact that their taxes are being used to fund bridges to nowhere and subsidize an overproduction of corn. Or to fund research projects studying the viscosity of catsup.
WTH man, I'm not looking for financial info, I'm looking for political news guys to report and debate about what Congress is or isn't doing for IMPORTANT issues. Issues like what kind of taxes they are trying to sneak past us. Issues like where they are wasting our money. Issues like corruption in government from either side.
Average Joe is entertained and distracted by the social issues; aka the pointless issues.
That's why guys like Bill O'Reilly are successful. But that's also one of the reasons why we've got a real crisis on our hands when it comes to responsible government. It's one of the reasons why our governmnet is so bloated and is able to continue to bloat more and more.
The news and the political shows aren't doing their job.For answers to board issues, read the Suggestion and News forum at the bottom of the main page. - 06-24-2007, 04:54 PM
Originally Posted by Bobo
I think what Tiberius meant is that there is an increasing trend in swaying in the way some of the news is being reported. - 06-24-2007, 04:59 PM
Sadly true but it doesn't mean they SHOULD.
Never said that. Just telling you your emphasis on economy isn't what everyone else believes. Telling me the economy is more important and expecting me to follow along isn't the wisest of statements. Some people believe social issues and civil rights are much more important than the economy. I hope THAT interests you to but somehow I don't believe it will. You seem stuck on the economy and that's fine but don't tell me what what I should think is more important.
If you say so but I tihnk its a pretty narrow view as well as giving too much credit for an entertainment program. If O'Reilly wans't around would that change how governement operates? Nope. So I don't tihnk its a distraction at all....its entertainment.
And I hate to tell you but he's NOT THE NEWS.
You want to know what Congress is passing? C-Span is your ticket. Have a blast.
O'Reilly reports on mostly social issues...its what he's done all the time and will continue to do so..if you don't like it, turn the channel.
I'm sorry if he's not reporting what YOU want him to report. Its like complaining that Monday Night Football isn't giving you hockey scores...I know that going in!!!
Like I said before...to YOU. Abortion, civil rights, social issues are not pointless..
1) An ammendment to the constitution banning gay marriage
or
2) Balancing the budget
Because in case you haven't noticed, Congress takes an awful lot of time off and time devoted to an unimportant issue means time taken AWAY from an important one.
[quote]
He covered the pork spending in the war bill for an entire week.[/qute]
GOOD. At least he's done SOME good things. Now if only he'd continue to focus on stuff like that to actually keep the politicians in Washington on their toes.
According to you. His ratings say otherwise.
Listen, when the government takes well into 7 digits worth of money from you each year, you best believe how they spend it is going to be a priority. It's sad that it takes that though to get someone to pay attention. - 06-24-2007, 05:34 PM
It seems drugs, teen pregnancy and homosexuality are "problems" that arent going anywhere. If some pamphlet or the condecending words of an "adult" who'd "rumble" and "punch snouts" doesnt reach the youths and solve the problem can there be real harm in trying a different aproach from someone who actually knows what he's talking about. Now i understand that im an idiot so lets skip that conclusion and actually remember what its like to be a teenager the more you push the more they push back, "dont smoke" makes kids go out and almost immediately try it, its the same reason phillip morris has info about quitting on their site. Another reason to get you thinking about smoking, walk into a non smokers room and bombard them with "dont smoke, dont smoke" they think about trying it whereas they wouldnt otherwise, as if it were a test of will power to try it and not be addicted. As if punching noses has any positive impact on teaching kids, how hypocritical. Lets call some children "pinheads", and then complain bc they said scrips instead of prescriptions. Theres always going to be questinable methods of teaching depending on how dried up and removed you get from what kids think. These guys are there to stop kids from hiding in the closet, use drugs safely and be responsible for actions they are going to do anyway. There is no speech that will gets kids to use a condom everytime, to not use drugs and not be gay, whos unrealistic here. Notice the anger in the people who dont like the presentation, always willing to take things out of context and complain as if these guys are doing it to look cool instead of the obvious point of teaching in an easily digestible manner. The school principal is obviously very smart and actually trying to get throught to these kids.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm going to encourage you to have sex, and I'm going to encourage you to use drugs appropriately.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's the thing they don't tell you about condoms. If you're lucky enough to get them on, and you still stay hard, it's hard to stay hard. And it doesn't feel as good.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you want to get marijuana in the city of Los Angeles, all you've got to do is go to a doctor who will write you a script. You go to a club.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's very natural for young people to experiment with same-sex relationships. Even today, there are psychiatrists who will do sessions under the influence of ecstasy. If I had some, maybe I'd do it with somebody.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Now, what is healthy sexual behavior? I don't care if it's with men and men, women and women, men and women. Whatever combination you would like to put together.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When you're thirteen, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, probably one of the most appropriate sexual behaviors would be masturbation. Masturbate! Please masturbate!
"dont use drugs and being gay is bad , rubbers are fun , and drugs are evil, except the ones govts make money from." Someone read this to them and all the problems will dissapear.
Punching people in the face is a good problem solving strategy that gets positive teaching results when concerned about kids.
Burn out hippies dont know about downfalls of drugs and a 50 year old teachers with zero relevat experience can read a piece of paper that will get kids to straighten up and go to kill people in iraq.
"Insert koolaid reference here"
Lets complain about people making a difference, when the student body (intended audience) actually apreciates the positive intention of the message "almost all of the people in my school dont think there is a problem with it," from the first kid.
Oreilly and miller are american heros because they can tell kids to punch people, name call , and generalise and they have the right answers, for the "pinheads", that the "burnout losers" dont. - 06-24-2007, 06:19 PM
I tihnk for the most part they do avoid social issues. They are talking points that have al;ready been established for the most part through the Supreme Court.
I'm not asking for O'Reilly and other shows on both sides of the isle to go away. I just wish they'd focus on things that actually affect our lives more profoundly and on a broader level. Gay marriage does not affect our lives. Whether or not some fools in Boulder Colorado talk about sex and drugs at a highschool assembly is not important. It's entertaining, sure, but it's also distracting. Bill O'Reilly is mislabelled is the big problem. He's thought of as having a politicla talk show. Really he's just another Jerry Springer.
No he isn't news, but he passes himself off as a political comentator of sorts which is completely false.
What I want is a political talk show that filters through the fog of bull#### in every bill sniffing for dirt and exposing it. THAT is what I want.
I'm not concerned about watching it. I never do except when folks post little clips online like this. WHat I am concerned about is that he is part of a culture of distraction.
This isn't about me watching it. I'm not watching him, never doas I said before. Monday Night Football though doesn't give politicians ammo to distract the general public from their corruption. Bill O-Reilly and other "social issue" "political talkshows" do.
They are from a government point of view. Tell me which would you rather our government spend time and effort on:
1) An ammendment to the constitution banning gay marriage
or
2) Balancing the budget
Because in case you haven't noticed, Congress takes an awful lot of time off and time devoted to an unimportant issue means time taken AWAY from an important one.
He covered the pork spending in the war bill for an entire week.GOOD. At least he's done SOME good things. Now if only he'd continue to focus on stuff like that to actually keep the politicians in Washington on their toes.
Again that's my point. He has good ratings, which means lots of poeple are watching him and that mjeans lots of people are distracted into thinking government does or should have any say in these social issues. Distraction distraction distraction so they can spend spend spend while the people are oblivious.
Listen, when the government takes well into 7 digits worth of money from you each year, you best believe how they spend it is going to be a priority. It's sad that it takes that though to get someone to pay attention.
I hear your arguement everyday. In SWFLA, guys like you are dime a dozen around here. I would love to know what they are doing with my tax dollars but its pipe dream. Never going to happen.For answers to board issues, read the Suggestion and News forum at the bottom of the main page. - 06-24-2007, 06:34 PM
Actually that's false. Drug use and teen pregnancy is down. Eliminating isn't the goal and nobody said homosexuality is a "problem". Encouraging a 16yr to experiment with it while lecturing about how unprotected sex doesnt feel as good is the problem.
If some pamphlet or the condecending words of an "adult" who'd "rumble" and "punch snouts" doesnt reach the youths and solve the problem can there be real harm in trying a different aproach from someone who actually knows what he's talking about.
Now i understand that im an idiot so lets skip that conclusion and actually remember what its like to be a teenager the more you push the more they push back,
These guys are there to stop kids from hiding in the closet, use drugs safely and be responsible for actions they are going to do anyway.
There is no speech that will gets kids to use a condom everytime, to not use drugs and not be gay, whos unrealistic here. .
I do not see any problem with any of these statements, if i was to take them completely out of context add in some black marker lines, and use a funny semi retarded sounding voice then i could have a case against them.
Lets complain about people making a difference, when the student body (intended audience) actually apreciates the positive intention of the message "almost all of the people in my school dont think there is a problem with it," from the first kid.
Oreilly and miller are american heros because they can tell kids to punch people, name call , and generalise and they have the right answers, for the "pinheads", that the "burnout losers" dont.For answers to board issues, read the Suggestion and News forum at the bottom of the main page.
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