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    Bill Orielly schooled by 16 year old student!


    YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

    I love this!!! First this kid slams him on a misquotation and has the document to back it up.

    The 16 year old then takes a quote from Orielly's book that has Orielly condoning drug use and sticks it right up his butt,

    Watch Orielly'face pucker

    ding ding schools in !!!

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    An Orielly quote after someone said we would stop enforcing laws on consensual crimes- (Sarcastly) "Do you want this country to become Holland!?"

    Yes, I want to cut our murder rate 8 fold, not be at war, have freedom were supposed to have, and not be attacked by terrorist. I'm not a violent man, but I would fight that ****bag Nazi any time any place. That and Ann Coulter, seeing as she is actually a man.
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    The real problem with O'Reilly is he never brings up issues that are actually important. He's a distraction, plain and simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anabolicrhino View Post
    Bill Orielly schooled by 16 year old student!

    I love this!!! First this kid slams him on a misquotation and has the document to back it up.

    The 16 year old then takes a quote from Orielly's book that has Orielly condoning drug use and sticks it right up his butt,

    Watch Orielly'face pucker

    ding ding schools in !!!
    Ha HA this video made my day. Bill Orielly is so annoying.

    and i thought the old cliche about thinking you could fly and jump out a window was from taking pcp not lsd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spunkles182 View Post
    Ha HA this video made my day. Bill Orielly is so annoying.

    and i thought the old cliche about thinking you could fly and jump out a window was from taking pcp not lsd.
    That can happen with any hallucinagen.

    Never went near any of those drugs, but when I was in college, one set of friends were kind of the "drug experimentation" group. They said whenever they did any kind of hallucinagen, payote, mushrooms, LSD, or even PCP, they made sure first they were in a happy environment, they weren't feeling any stress ahead of time, and there was virtually nothing around them that could hurt them. They also usually had some designated clearheaded guy around them to make sure they didn't do anything profoundly stupid.

    Prohibition is stupid though. You could create so many jobs, employ so many people if they just removed prohibition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberius View Post
    That can happen with any hallucinagen.

    Never went near any of those drugs, but when I was in college, one set of friends were kind of the "drug experimentation" group. They said whenever they did any kind of hallucinagen, payote, mushrooms, LSD, or even PCP, they made sure first they were in a happy environment, they weren't feeling any stress ahead of time, and there was virtually nothing around them that could hurt them. They also usually had some designated clearheaded guy around them to make sure they didn't do anything profoundly stupid.

    Prohibition is stupid though. You could create so many jobs, employ so many people if they just removed prohibition.
    no, not really. ive treid them all and the only one that put me in a psychotic state was pcp. I thought I was talking to someone that i truely belived was there, but there was no one there.

    I just dont like when people talk like they are experts on drugs (like bill oreilly) when they really have no idea. its like people telling you the ills of steroids when they dont know much about it or have never tried it.

    but hey, drugs are bad mmmmmmmkay
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    Ahh haaaa. Ole Bill can dish it out but he sure can't take it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spatch View Post
    An Orielly quote after someone said we would stop enforcing laws on consensual crimes- (Sarcastly) "Do you want this country to become Holland!?"

    Yes, I want to cut our murder rate 8 fold, not be at war, have freedom were supposed to have, and not be attacked by terrorist. I'm not a violent man, but I would fight that ****bag Nazi any time any place. That and Ann Coulter, seeing as she is actually a man.


    Riiiiight......

    Then move to Holland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberius View Post
    The real problem with O'Reilly is he never brings up issues that are actually important. He's a distraction, plain and simple.




    Yeah..ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bioman View Post
    Ahh haaaa. Ole Bill can dish it out but he sure can't take it.
    Not really. I read that transcript and heard the actual tape of what the guy said. He basically was telling 16yr kids that he would do X if he had some at the moment...they should experiment with same sax partners, etc, etc, etc....Bill's premise was correct but the kid was more worried about arguing over semantics instead of the overall point.




    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm going to encourage you to have sex, and I'm going to encourage you to use drugs appropriately.

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's the thing they don't tell you about condoms. If you're lucky enough to get them on, and you still stay hard, it's hard to stay hard. And it doesn't feel as good.

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you want to get marijuana in the city of Los Angeles, all you've got to do is go to a doctor who will write you a script. You go to a club.

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's very natural for young people to experiment with same-sex relationships. Even today, there are psychiatrists who will do sessions under the influence of ecstasy. If I had some, maybe I'd do it with somebody.

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Now, what is healthy sexual behavior? I don't care if it's with men and men, women and women, men and women. Whatever combination you would like to put together.

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When you're thirteen, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, probably one of the most appropriate sexual behaviors would be masturbation. Masturbate! Please masturbate!




    Not exactly what tax payers pay for their public school system. Not exactly what I would want my kids to hear at that moment in life as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spunkles182 View Post

    I just dont like when people talk like they are experts on drugs (like bill oreilly) when they really have no idea. its like people telling you the ills of steroids when they dont know much about it or have never tried it.
    I could care less about who knows what. I don't want my 16yr old kid going to a publically funded school with these burnouts telling them to experiement with drugs, sex, etc.....

    16yr old aren't allowed to post and discuss steroids on this board for a reason so forgive us "uptight" people when we don't want so called "lecturers" coming on our dime to tell my kids to experiment with everything that I've told them not to experiement with.


    But lets continue to bash the guy that actually wants to protect kids a bit...


    Sorry, I'm with Miller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobo View Post




    Yeah..ok.

    Bill O-Reilly only focuses on crap like abortion, drugs, same sex marriages, and all the other issues that aren't in the least bit important and aren't valid issues for any government to address.

    The whole point is to distract the general public away from what is actually important: the economy. By him focusing on these issues, it shifts the public attention to them and thus allows ALL politicians to argue back and forth on those issues instead of important economic issues while they line their pockets, increase spending and taxes, and generally run the country into the ground. The economy is the root of every good time and bad time. Good ecomony with lots of high paying jobs means good times for all, lower crime, happier people, higher standard of living. All the stuff the average Joe actually cares about. When the economy is bad, you get fewer jobs, less money to go around, lower standard of living, lower paying jobs, more crime, more drug abuse, and most folks are generally miffed.


    These social issues are distractions, nothing more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberius View Post
    Bill O-Reilly only focuses on crap like abortion, drugs, same sex marriages, and all the other issues that aren't in the least bit important and aren't valid issues for any government to address.
    Thats because he's a commentator, not a news outlet. Plus, I hate to tell, those issues above are really important to many people.


    The whole point is to distract the general public away from what is actually important: the economy.
    To you.

    By him focusing on these issues, it shifts the public attention to them and thus allows ALL politicians to argue back and forth on those issues while they line their pockets, increase spending and taxes, and generally run the country into the ground.
    Yes, Bill does all this.

    The economy is the root of every good time and bad time. Good ecomony with lots of high paying jobs means good times for all, lower crime, happier people, higher standard of living. All the stuff the average Joe actually cares about. When the economy is bad, you get fewer jobs, less money to go around, lower standard of living, lower paying jobs, more crime, more drug abuse, and most folks are generally miffed.
    What is an average Joe? You? You want financial info? Go watch CNBC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobo View Post
    I could care less about who knows what. I don't want my 16yr old kid going to a publically funded school with these burnouts telling them to experiement with drugs, sex, etc.....

    16yr old aren't allowed to post and discuss steroids on this board for a reason so forgive us "uptight" people when we don't want so called "lecturers" coming on our dime to tell my kids to experiment with everything that I've told them not to experiement with.


    But lets continue to bash the guy that actually wants to protect kids a bit...


    Sorry, I'm with Miller.

    ha ha... ok, i misunderstood what they were talking about the first time i watched it. im in total agreement with you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by spunkles182 View Post
    ha ha... ok, i misunderstood what they were talking about the first time i watched it. im in total agreement with you.


    You scared me for a minute
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    Regardless of the the subject or whether you agree or not with the debate...

    The kid still schooled him on the facts and had the documented quotes to back it it up!

    Bill lost a debate to a 16 year old high school kid then had the audacity to tell him what he was doing was wrong!

    Yea ,Bill making you choke on your own words is "wrong"!
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    Quote Originally Posted by anabolicrhino View Post
    Regardless of the the subject or whether you agree or not with the debate...

    The kid still schooled him on the facts and had the documented quotes to back it it up!

    Bill lost a debate to a 16 year old high school kid then had the audacity to tell him what he was doing was wrong!

    Yea ,Bill making you choke on your own words is "wrong"!
    I think what is more pathetic is you are more concerned with who won the debate and someone's blustering ego than the actual subject matter.

    I could give two sh1ts about who "won" a debate.

    But yeah, he REALLY told him....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobo View Post
    Thats because he's a commentator, not a news outlet. Plus, I hate to tell, those issues above are really important to many people.
    Important to people? Sure. But they should never have anything to do with the government.


    To you.
    So you're saying the economy isn't as important as whether or not your next door neighbor can get an abortion? Interesting.


    Yes, Bill does all this.
    Jeez man, way to misinterpret what I said. He's a PART of a segment of "entertainment" meant to distract the public from what's important. Think about it, the Socialists and the Republispendolots are pretty much the same party. All they do is argue back and forth on social issues. Occasionally some guy from one side or the other will start talking about issues that government IS supposed to address, but then the pother side just goes right back to talking about unimportant crap like flag burning or whether or not we should remove 'God' from the pedge of allegiance. For the most part when it comes down to writing laws, the two parties do much the same thing; load it up with pork spending. When it comes to most things the two parties pretty much look for every opportunity to line their pockets and the pockets of all their friends. Keep th public focused on stupid crap and they'll ignore the fact that their taxes are being used to fund bridges to nowhere and subsidize an overproduction of corn. Or to fund research projects studying the viscosity of catsup.

    What is an average Joe? You? You want financial info? Go watch CNBC.
    WTH man, I'm not looking for financial info, I'm looking for political news guys to report and debate about what Congress is or isn't doing for IMPORTANT issues. Issues like what kind of taxes they are trying to sneak past us. Issues like where they are wasting our money. Issues like corruption in government from either side.

    Average Joe is entertained and distracted by the social issues; aka the pointless issues. That's why guys like Bill O'Reilly are successful. But that's also one of the reasons why we've got a real crisis on our hands when it comes to responsible government. It's one of the reasons why our governmnet is so bloated and is able to continue to bloat more and more.

    The news and the political shows aren't doing their job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberius View Post
    Important to people? Sure. But they should never have anything to do with the government.
    According to you. Social issues will always be a part of the government.




    So you're saying the economy isn't as important as whether or not your next door neighbor can get an abortion? Interesting.
    Never said that. Just telling you your emphasis on economy isn't what everyone else believes. Telling me the economy is more important and expecting me to follow along isn't the wisest of statements. Some people believe social issues and civil rights are much more important than the economy. I hope THAT interests you to but somehow I don't believe it will. You seem stuck on the economy and that's fine but don't tell me what what I should think is more important.




    Jeez man, way to misinterpret what I said. He's a PART of a segment of "entertainment" meant to distract the public from what's important. Think about it, the Socialists and the Republispendolots are pretty much the same party. All they do is argue back and forth on social issues. Occasionally some guy from one side or the other will start talking about issues that government IS supposed to address, but then the pother side just goes right back to talking about unimportant crap like flag burning or whether or not we should remove 'God' from the pedge of allegiance. For the most part when it comes down to writing laws, the two parties do much the same thing; load it up with pork spending. When it comes to most things the two parties pretty much look for every opportunity to line their pockets and the pockets of all their friends. Keep th public focused on stupid crap and they'll ignore the fact that their taxes are being used to fund bridges to nowhere and subsidize an overproduction of corn. Or to fund research projects studying the viscosity of catsup.
    If you say so but I tihnk its a pretty narrow view as well as giving too much credit for an entertainment program. If O'Reilly wans't around would that change how governement operates? Nope. So I don't tihnk its a distraction at all....its entertainment.

    WTH man, I'm not looking for financial info, I'm looking for political news guys to report and debate about what Congress is or isn't doing for IMPORTANT issues. Issues like what kind of taxes they are trying to sneak past us. Issues like where they are wasting our money. Issues like corruption in government from either side.
    And I hate to tell you but he's NOT THE NEWS. You want to know what Congress is passing? C-Span is your ticket. Have a blast. O'Reilly reports on mostly social issues...its what he's done all the time and will continue to do so..if you don't like it, turn the channel. I'm sorry if he's not reporting what YOU want him to report. Its like complaining that Monday Night Football isn't giving you hockey scores...I know that going in!!!
    Average Joe is entertained and distracted by the social issues; aka the pointless issues.
    Like I said before...to YOU. Abortion, civil rights, social issues are not pointless..

    That's why guys like Bill O'Reilly are successful. But that's also one of the reasons why we've got a real crisis on our hands when it comes to responsible government. It's one of the reasons why our governmnet is so bloated and is able to continue to bloat more and more.
    He covered the pork spending in the war bill for an entire week.

    The news and the political shows aren't doing their job.
    According to you. His ratings say otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobo
    The news and the political shows aren't doing their job.
    According to you. His ratings say otherwise
    This statement caters to the thought that news and political shows are aired for the primary purposed of getting ratings. Although that may be the way television execs. look at it, I would think this may start to skew from the general purpose of news and political shows: to inform people.

    I think what Tiberius meant is that there is an increasing trend in swaying in the way some of the news is being reported.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobo View Post
    According to you. Social issues will always be a part of the government.
    Sadly true but it doesn't mean they SHOULD.


    Never said that. Just telling you your emphasis on economy isn't what everyone else believes. Telling me the economy is more important and expecting me to follow along isn't the wisest of statements. Some people believe social issues and civil rights are much more important than the economy. I hope THAT interests you to but somehow I don't believe it will. You seem stuck on the economy and that's fine but don't tell me what what I should think is more important.
    I'm not talking about important to the individual, I'm talking about important for government to focus on.

    If you say so but I tihnk its a pretty narrow view as well as giving too much credit for an entertainment program. If O'Reilly wans't around would that change how governement operates? Nope. So I don't tihnk its a distraction at all....its entertainment.
    I'm not asking for O'Reilly and other shows on both sides of the isle to go away. I just wish they'd focus on things that actually affect our lives more profoundly and on a broader level. Gay marriage does not affect our lives. Whether or not some fools in Boulder Colorado talk about sex and drugs at a highschool assembly is not important. It's entertaining, sure, but it's also distracting. Bill O'Reilly is mislabelled is the big problem. He's thought of as having a politicla talk show. Really he's just another Jerry Springer.

    And I hate to tell you but he's NOT THE NEWS.
    No he isn't news, but he passes himself off as a political comentator of sorts which is completely false.

    You want to know what Congress is passing? C-Span is your ticket. Have a blast.
    What I want is a political talk show that filters through the fog of bull#### in every bill sniffing for dirt and exposing it. THAT is what I want.

    O'Reilly reports on mostly social issues...its what he's done all the time and will continue to do so..if you don't like it, turn the channel.
    I'm not concerned about watching it. I never do except when folks post little clips online like this. WHat I am concerned about is that he is part of a culture of distraction.

    I'm sorry if he's not reporting what YOU want him to report. Its like complaining that Monday Night Football isn't giving you hockey scores...I know that going in!!!
    This isn't about me watching it. I'm not watching him, never doas I said before. Monday Night Football though doesn't give politicians ammo to distract the general public from their corruption. Bill O-Reilly and other "social issue" "political talkshows" do.

    Like I said before...to YOU. Abortion, civil rights, social issues are not pointless..
    They are from a government point of view. Tell me which would you rather our government spend time and effort on:

    1) An ammendment to the constitution banning gay marriage
    or
    2) Balancing the budget

    Because in case you haven't noticed, Congress takes an awful lot of time off and time devoted to an unimportant issue means time taken AWAY from an important one.

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    He covered the pork spending in the war bill for an entire week.[/qute]

    GOOD. At least he's done SOME good things. Now if only he'd continue to focus on stuff like that to actually keep the politicians in Washington on their toes.

    According to you. His ratings say otherwise.
    Again that's my point. He has good ratings, which means lots of poeple are watching him and that mjeans lots of people are distracted into thinking government does or should have any say in these social issues. Distraction distraction distraction so they can spend spend spend while the people are oblivious.


    Listen, when the government takes well into 7 digits worth of money from you each year, you best believe how they spend it is going to be a priority. It's sad that it takes that though to get someone to pay attention.
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    It seems drugs, teen pregnancy and homosexuality are "problems" that arent going anywhere. If some pamphlet or the condecending words of an "adult" who'd "rumble" and "punch snouts" doesnt reach the youths and solve the problem can there be real harm in trying a different aproach from someone who actually knows what he's talking about. Now i understand that im an idiot so lets skip that conclusion and actually remember what its like to be a teenager the more you push the more they push back, "dont smoke" makes kids go out and almost immediately try it, its the same reason phillip morris has info about quitting on their site. Another reason to get you thinking about smoking, walk into a non smokers room and bombard them with "dont smoke, dont smoke" they think about trying it whereas they wouldnt otherwise, as if it were a test of will power to try it and not be addicted. As if punching noses has any positive impact on teaching kids, how hypocritical. Lets call some children "pinheads", and then complain bc they said scrips instead of prescriptions. Theres always going to be questinable methods of teaching depending on how dried up and removed you get from what kids think. These guys are there to stop kids from hiding in the closet, use drugs safely and be responsible for actions they are going to do anyway. There is no speech that will gets kids to use a condom everytime, to not use drugs and not be gay, whos unrealistic here. Notice the anger in the people who dont like the presentation, always willing to take things out of context and complain as if these guys are doing it to look cool instead of the obvious point of teaching in an easily digestible manner. The school principal is obviously very smart and actually trying to get throught to these kids.

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm going to encourage you to have sex, and I'm going to encourage you to use drugs appropriately.

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's the thing they don't tell you about condoms. If you're lucky enough to get them on, and you still stay hard, it's hard to stay hard. And it doesn't feel as good.

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you want to get marijuana in the city of Los Angeles, all you've got to do is go to a doctor who will write you a script. You go to a club.

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's very natural for young people to experiment with same-sex relationships. Even today, there are psychiatrists who will do sessions under the influence of ecstasy. If I had some, maybe I'd do it with somebody.

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Now, what is healthy sexual behavior? I don't care if it's with men and men, women and women, men and women. Whatever combination you would like to put together.

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When you're thirteen, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, probably one of the most appropriate sexual behaviors would be masturbation. Masturbate! Please masturbate!
    I do not see any problem with any of these statements, if i was to take them completely out of context add in some black marker lines, and use a funny semi retarded sounding voice then i could have a case against them.

    "dont use drugs and being gay is bad , rubbers are fun , and drugs are evil, except the ones govts make money from." Someone read this to them and all the problems will dissapear.
    Punching people in the face is a good problem solving strategy that gets positive teaching results when concerned about kids.

    Burn out hippies dont know about downfalls of drugs and a 50 year old teachers with zero relevat experience can read a piece of paper that will get kids to straighten up and go to kill people in iraq.

    "Insert koolaid reference here"

    Lets complain about people making a difference, when the student body (intended audience) actually apreciates the positive intention of the message "almost all of the people in my school dont think there is a problem with it," from the first kid.

    Oreilly and miller are american heros because they can tell kids to punch people, name call , and generalise and they have the right answers, for the "pinheads", that the "burnout losers" dont.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberius View Post
    Sadly true but it doesn't mean they SHOULD.




    I'm not talking about important to the individual, I'm talking about important for government to focus on.
    I tihnk for the most part they do avoid social issues. They are talking points that have al;ready been established for the most part through the Supreme Court.



    I'm not asking for O'Reilly and other shows on both sides of the isle to go away. I just wish they'd focus on things that actually affect our lives more profoundly and on a broader level. Gay marriage does not affect our lives. Whether or not some fools in Boulder Colorado talk about sex and drugs at a highschool assembly is not important. It's entertaining, sure, but it's also distracting. Bill O'Reilly is mislabelled is the big problem. He's thought of as having a politicla talk show. Really he's just another Jerry Springer.
    Well if you followed this from the start, the whole premise was that it was another exmaple of the "secular progressives" taking control. You know the ones who want income redistribution, universal healthcare that you pay for, etc....its a small issue that reflects a larger issue (San Fran, Boulder, Vermont, etc..). He has commented on this several times just like he does when he goes after judged who release child molestors or give them 6 months prison time because "secular progressives" don't believe in the modern day justice system or the harsh punishements.


    No he isn't news, but he passes himself off as a political comentator of sorts which is completely false.
    Not really. His books for the most part are more social in nature and don't really go into our government but more the cultural differences and who wants to influence government.



    What I want is a political talk show that filters through the fog of bull#### in every bill sniffing for dirt and exposing it. THAT is what I want.
    Bill does that on occasion especially with the war funding bill. You ceraitnly don't hear about in the mainstream press. He focuses mostly on what you won't hear from them.



    I'm not concerned about watching it. I never do except when folks post little clips online like this. WHat I am concerned about is that he is part of a culture of distraction.
    Not form my viewpoint. He is one of few that actually calls it like he sees it..whther he is wrong or right...He is an egomaniac and admits this freely but many people let that get in the way of what he states. They just don't like him because of the way he presents it....I could care less.

    This isn't about me watching it. I'm not watching him, never doas I said before. Monday Night Football though doesn't give politicians ammo to distract the general public from their corruption. Bill O-Reilly and other "social issue" "political talkshows" do.
    He has very few politicians on. They won't come on the set for the most part. They dodge him and his questions. From your comments it really seems you don't watch him at all. He calls BS every night on some issue....even hopping on the Lou Dobbs bandwagon about immigration.


    They are from a government point of view. Tell me which would you rather our government spend time and effort on:

    1) An ammendment to the constitution banning gay marriage
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    2) Balancing the budget

    Because in case you haven't noticed, Congress takes an awful lot of time off and time devoted to an unimportant issue means time taken AWAY from an important one.
    Nobody ever stated what the government SHOULD spend their time on. You brought all that in on yourself then started proclaiming what is important and what I think is important. I didn't comment at all..just stated many people believe civil rights and social issues are more important than the economy. Many people could care less about balancing the budget because even when we had a surplus the general public didn't see any of it anyway. It either goes to this war, or more health care programs, education programs, etc....

    He covered the pork spending in the war bill for an entire week.
    GOOD. At least he's done SOME good things. Now if only he'd continue to focus on stuff like that to actually keep the politicians in Washington on their toes.
    He does. He did with immigration. I am beginning to think you are passing judgement on a person you don't watch. He actually formulated his own immigration plan and posted it on his website for everyone to see. He did what other politicians refuse to do.



    Again that's my point. He has good ratings, which means lots of poeple are watching him and that mjeans lots of people are distracted into thinking government does or should have any say in these social issues. Distraction distraction distraction so they can spend spend spend while the people are oblivious.
    No, it means there are many people that want to hear the stories that the left wing media (mainstream) don't report. He reports the BS you DON'T see.


    Listen, when the government takes well into 7 digits worth of money from you each year, you best believe how they spend it is going to be a priority. It's sad that it takes that though to get someone to pay attention.
    To you. To those who are in the 18-21% bracket (like most) balancing a budget in which they won't see an extra penny doens't mean a damn thing to them.

    I hear your arguement everyday. In SWFLA, guys like you are dime a dozen around here. I would love to know what they are doing with my tax dollars but its pipe dream. Never going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by somewhatgifted View Post
    It seems drugs, teen pregnancy and homosexuality are "problems" that arent going anywhere.
    Actually that's false. Drug use and teen pregnancy is down. Eliminating isn't the goal and nobody said homosexuality is a "problem". Encouraging a 16yr to experiment with it while lecturing about how unprotected sex doesnt feel as good is the problem.

    If some pamphlet or the condecending words of an "adult" who'd "rumble" and "punch snouts" doesnt reach the youths and solve the problem can there be real harm in trying a different aproach from someone who actually knows what he's talking about.
    You were wrong on your original point so this one doesnt make sense either.


    Now i understand that im an idiot so lets skip that conclusion and actually remember what its like to be a teenager the more you push the more they push back,
    Nobody is pushing them...the problem is someone pushing them to TRY IT. Its a pretty simple concept.


    These guys are there to stop kids from hiding in the closet, use drugs safely and be responsible for actions they are going to do anyway.
    Sorry, you're flat out wrong. Not all kids are going to try same sex partners...not all kids are going to try X...not all kids are going to have unprotected sex so I sure don't want my kid listening to these ****in burnouts telling them to do it. Just because YOU tried all the above doesn't mean everyone is and I don't some idiotic principal to make it mandatory for my kid to listen to these types of people. You may raise your kids that way but I sure as hell don't want my school making it mandatory for my kid to listen to it. If its your philosophy, fine....don't for one seconds think you are going to force that on me.

    There is no speech that will gets kids to use a condom everytime, to not use drugs and not be gay, whos unrealistic here. .
    You are. I'm sorry you have such a pessimistic view of people and what they do but some kids listen for the better. I'm sorry in your experience and your world, these things didn't happen. I actually give the kid a chance before just telling to go do everything just to "get it out of the way". Sure, here is some heroin...just get it out of the way so you know.



    I do not see any problem with any of these statements, if i was to take them completely out of context add in some black marker lines, and use a funny semi retarded sounding voice then i could have a case against them.
    No context...its what they said..go read teh transcript.



    Lets complain about people making a difference, when the student body (intended audience) actually apreciates the positive intention of the message "almost all of the people in my school dont think there is a problem with it," from the first kid.
    Right. The student body knows more about life and the conseuqences the adults. Right. Lets have the kids raise the adults.

    Oreilly and miller are american heros because they can tell kids to punch people, name call , and generalise and they have the right answers, for the "pinheads", that the "burnout losers" dont.
    Nobody said they are heroes...they are just right IMO. Raise your kids in your own whack job way and let me do the same with mine. Don't tell ME what my kid HAS to listen too...especially those idiots. But we all know you liberals cna't stand them anyway no matter what they say. Tough...they aren't going anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    This statement caters to the thought that news and political shows are aired for the primary purposed of getting ratings. Although that may be the way television execs. look at it, I would think this may start to skew from the general purpose of news and political shows: to inform people.

    I think what Tiberius meant is that there is an increasing trend in swaying in the way some of the news is being reported.
    Been like that since liberal Walter Conkrite was on air.


    That statement doesnt say anything about "getting ratings" It caters to the fact that Fox News basically dominates cable news because of the overwhelming liberal media bias in the mainstream press. Fox News reports issues and a side you WON'T hear form the mainstream...this is the same with radio as well. It seems more separated now because you actually HAVE a conservative outlet whereas before it was completely one sided.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobo View Post
    Been like that since liberal Walter Conkrite was on air.


    That statement doesnt say anything about "getting ratings" It caters to the fact that Fox News basically dominates cable news because of the overwhelming liberal media bias in the mainstream press. Fox News reports issues and a side you WON'T hear form the mainstream...this is the same with radio as well. It seems more separated now because you actually HAVE a conservative outlet whereas before it was completely one sided.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobo View Post
    Been like that since liberal Walter Conkrite was on air.


    That statement doesnt say anything about "getting ratings" It caters to the fact that Fox News basically dominates cable news because of the overwhelming liberal media bias in the mainstream press. Fox News reports issues and a side you WON'T hear form the mainstream...this is the same with radio as well. It seems more separated now because you actually HAVE a conservative outlet whereas before it was completely one sided.

    Bobo, you're getting inot Black Helicopter territory. The "liberal conspiracy"? Gimme a break. There's no liberal or conservative conspiracy. There's just selfishness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberius View Post
    The real problem with O'Reilly is he never brings up issues that are actually important. He's a distraction, plain and simple.
    O'Reilly's only real problem is that he sometimes lets his Irish Catholic sense of right and wrong dictate the debate and so stifles some points of view (shouts over them) when they don't neatly fall into that rigid framework. Otherwise he's a right of center but generally reasonable news analyst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberius View Post
    Bobo, you're getting inot Black Helicopter territory. The "liberal conspiracy"? Gimme a break. There's no liberal or conservative conspiracy. There's just selfishness.


    Who said anything about conspiracy? The majority of the newsrooms are liberal. Its not conspiracy, its fact. Anyone who has been in the media for some time knows this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobo View Post
    Nobody said they are heroes...they are just right IMO. Raise your kids in your own whack job way and let me do the same with mine. Don't tell ME what my kid HAS to listen too...especially those idiots. But we all know you liberals cna't stand them anyway no matter what they say. Tough...they aren't going anywhere.
    Im anti war and dislike people who use generalizations, and one word to categorize thousands of totally differnet people. (" those pin heads", "terrorists", "people like you" statements) so that makes me liberal? This is a question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by somewhatgifted View Post
    Im anti war and dislike people who use generalizations, and one word to categorize thousands of totally differnet people. (" those pin heads", "terrorists", "people like you" statements) so that makes me liberal? This is a question.
    You're liberal, and that's a generalization
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    This study can out a few weeks ago that show that O Rielly calls someone a derogatory name every 9 seconds.

    http://blogs.wsj.com/numbersguy/tall...e-calling-100/
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    You're liberal, and that's a generalization
    Yeah, reminds me of a witch hunt. I am a person, weird confused and indifferent but a person, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anabolicrhino View Post
    This study can out a few weeks ago that show that O Rielly calls someone a derogatory name every 9 seconds.

    http://blogs.wsj.com/numbersguy/tall...e-calling-100/
    Boo hoo...

    "Not so, Mr. Conway responds. Labels are only counted as name-calling if the context supports that classification. “Left” by itself might not register, while “Kool-Aid left” counts twice because “Kool-Aid” is name-calling and it confers a negative connotation onto “left.” Mr. O’Reilly’s facial expression and tone of voice also were considered."



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    So many perspectives to be upset about this from. I am rather upset by the idea that at a public school there would be a mandatory attendance to such a display of irresponsibility and ignorance. They are on our dime with our children. Not to get off topic, but damn, they outlaw prayer, the name or word God and now we have this. Quite the display of the seriously distorted moral or value system of our government and or public education system and our society as a whole. We will not tolerate our kids experimenting with God but we will help them experiment with homosexuality and mind altering drugs.

    Kids will always be curious about these sort of things. The curiosity if further piqued by the bombardment from our overstimulating media outlets such as the myspace type communities, MTV type entertainment, TV commercials and news stands.

    There have always been those that encourage this sort of illicite behavior to either capitaize or encourage or validate their own distorted view on what is acceptable personal social and psychological develoment.

    There is sufficient evidence to support the fact that one use of some drugs illicite drugs will permenantly alter brain chemistry. Not to mention the fact that there is so much evidnce out their that alcoholism and addiction is hereditary and imbeded in genetic makeup passed down from generation to generation.

    There is sufficent evidence to support the fact that one occasion of unprotected hetero sex can result in unwanted pregnacy, transmition of STD's, hep C and other communicable disease. Complicate matters even further with bi gay sexual experimentation and the health risks alone are astronomical.

    The idea of encouraging same sex experimentation is completly absurd. This whole open gay bi social culture is not a sign of our diverse orientation that has now become more accepatble to have out of the closet. It is a lucivious and permiscuous social trend that is being perpetuated and socialized by our media and entertainement.

    The idea that we have our public schools facilitating a mandatory assembly encouraging or promoting this sort of experimentation with substances and sexuality, even safely, is completely irresponsible and a demonstration of how ignorant they are on many levels.
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    well, the people responded to the immigration fiasco,

    and what happened , nothing, they are still trying to force it through.

    these politicians are worried about staying in office more than doing thier job....we need term limits.... but it wont happen

    not when they can bring in illegals to vote for them.....


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