The Income Tax

Jumper · 06-20-2007, 12:38 PM

Respectifully, come on man, really. I don't think any of us want to pay income taxes, but it was ratified and certified. It is now part of the constitution. It has not been overturned by the Supreme Court. I say again, if you believe otherwise then don't pay and see what that gets you.

anabolicrhino · 06-20-2007, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jumper

Respectifully, come on man, really. I don't think any of us want to pay income taxes, but it was ratified and certified. It is now part of the constitution. It has not been overturned by the Supreme Court. I say again, if you believe otherwise then don't pay and see what that gets you.

Where are we going ???

I'll say again the federal tax is voluntary, but the system works because it is enforced by threats and intimidation. It is supported by people like yourself when you say " don't pay and see what that gets you"

There have been many people arrested for failure to pay income tax and they were eventually released when the plaintiff(IRS) could not show the law in court!!!

So, if you can afford to do a little jail time you don't have to pay either!

It just takes balls !

**Zero Tolerance** · 06-20-2007, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Scrat

Yet, another reason to vote for Ron Paul in 2008.

Ron Paul gets my vote... For many reasons...

http://www.ronpaul2008.com

Jumper · 06-20-2007, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by anabolicrhino

Where are we going ???

I'll say again the federal tax is voluntary, but the system works because it is enforced by threats and intimidation. It is supported by people like yourself when you say " don't pay and see what that gets you"

There have been many people arrested for failure to pay income tax and they were eventually released when the plaintiff(IRS) could not show the law in court!!!

So, if you can afford to do a little jail time you don't have to pay either!

It just takes balls !

Like I said brother, if that is what you believe then go for it.

**Zero Tolerance** · 06-20-2007, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Thrall

Heard that. There is a dude who seems genuine. It is hard to tell with politicians, but his voice is speaking the words that need to be said. My only fear is that no one is hearing him.

There are very powerful people with a lot of money that don't want us to know about him. I'm almost certain that every internet poll after a debate has been heavily in favor of him. Like more than 50% saying he won the debate with the next politician getting 15%...

**Zero Tolerance** · 06-20-2007, 02:23 PM

Holy cack! How long in prison? If it's not butt-f! penetentary I'll consider it to avoid paying taxes for the rest of my life. Half my hard-earned income goes to the IRS. And then when I spend what I have left, THAT's also taxed... Then there's the tax on my home. $10k a year. What else? Hell. A little jail time might be worth this!

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Originally Posted by anabolicrhino

Where are we going ???

I'll say again the federal tax is voluntary, but the system works because it is enforced by threats and intimidation. It is supported by people like yourself when you say " don't pay and see what that gets you"

There have been many people arrested for failure to pay income tax and they were eventually released when the plaintiff(IRS) could not show the law in court!!!

So, if you can afford to do a little jail time you don't have to pay either!

It just takes balls !

**Frank Costanza** · 06-20-2007, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Zero Tolerance

Holy cack! How long in prison? If it's not butt-f! penetentary I'll consider it to avoid paying taxes for the rest of my life. Half my hard-earned income goes to the IRS. And then when I spend what I have left, THAT's also taxed... Then there's the tax on my home. $10k a year. What else? Hell. A little jail time might be worth this!

If half your income goes to the IRS, your accountant is an idiot.

You get taxed on purchases but you have ZERO state income tax (since you live in Florida).

Your tax on your home is a write off.

Instead of going to prison, get a better acountant.

**Zero Tolerance** · 06-20-2007, 03:09 PM

All in all, I'm still curious about how long these people are spending in prison. I've never heard that before - that people are going to prison only to get released because the IRS has nothing to stand on...

anabolicrhino · 06-20-2007, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Zero Tolerance

All in all, I'm still curious about how long these people are spending in prison. I've never heard that before - that people are going to prison only to get released because the IRS has nothing to stand on...

Most of these case end with some kind of settlement because

a) most people don't have the balls or money to sit in a jail for 2 year during the appeals process

b) The IRS(private) can only convince the courts(public) to handle the expense of a unjust prison sentence for so long.

A good topical example is the case of Wesley Snipes!

You may also want to research the case of Ed Brown

CURRENT ED BROWN CASE

spunkles182 · 06-20-2007, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Zero Tolerance

All in all, I'm still curious about how long these people are spending in prison. I've never heard that before - that people are going to prison only to get released because the IRS has nothing to stand on...

Dont believe everything you read on the internet.

Tax evasion: This is a felony and a conviction can carry a prison sentence of up to five years and/or fines up to $100,000.

Failing to file a tax return: This is a misdemeanor and can result in a maximum prison sentence of one year and/or fines totaling up to $25,000 for each year for which no return was filed.

anabolicrhino · 06-20-2007, 05:10 PM

Interesting facts !

anabolicrhino · 06-20-2007, 05:28 PM

Here is the ultimate film on the subject

Jumper · 06-20-2007, 06:20 PM

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Interesting facts !

The facts are they were convicted in Federal Court of Tax Evasion and are under seige in their fortress of a home. Not exactly an example that I would recommend anyone follow. But that's just me.

anabolicrhino · 06-20-2007, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jumper

The facts are they were convicted in Federal Court of Tax Evasion and are under seige in their fortress of a home. Not exactly an example that I would recommend anyone follow. But that's just me.

Maybe they would rather die on their feet than live on their knees !

...buts that's just me

chewball · 06-20-2007, 09:55 PM

Here's a good video about how the income tax is unconstitutional...

chewball · 06-20-2007, 09:56 PM

Nevermind, that was just posted.

**Jayhawkk** · 06-20-2007, 10:11 PM

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Maybe they would rather die on their feet than live on their knees !

How about grow some real balls and leave to another ****ing place that satisfies their requirements? I get sick at looking at what I take home versus what I made but this argument does not make any sense. You would rather sit in jail and have all your property seized instead of learning tax loopholes and saving money? lol

jumper basically said what I wanted to say.