I would agree higher standards should obviously be held for humans, but the principle of locating the precipice, whether warranted or unwarranted, of an action within the larger social context was my intended point. A sentiment of "well these ones are doing it, so all Mexicans must be as such" was being voiced in that thread, and I simply do not agree with that.
Neither do I. I know Mexicans who are here legally, love this country, and I wouldn't have it any other way. I also know we're not being inundated with barely literate gang banging Canadians, if there even is such a thing, illegally crossing the northern border. Pointing out that our major illegal immigration problem is with Mexico and Mexicans, and that even when they come here legally that many are fighting assimilation tooth and nail, is basically a thought crime in the US. Even advancing the idea that there are some good things, dare I say superior things, about Western culture that all people who come should be
expected to understand and support, is a complete third rail issue. No one touches it, everyone knows it's true though.
The melting pot isn't melting anymore, and instead of being a crucible where everyone brings the best of their culture and accepts the best of the American culture, people just bring their whole cultural shebang over here and expect to set up house and for Americans to change their culture to suit the new arrivals. **** the constitution, **** freedom of speech, yay for handouts and pay for the retirement of my entire extended family.
Categorizing the actions or thoughts of an entire country based on the actions and thoughts of a group of disgruntled hormone-laden teenagers is presumptious.
To my knowledge hundred of thousands marched this past year when the issue became hot. And it was only after some kind hearted touchie feelies told them they might score more political points by flying the American flag did the Mexican flags disappear. This is not an isolated incident nor an uncommon frame of mind among many immigrants, illegal and legal.
Believe it or not, I would fully agree with you; I am not one for abitrary categorization based on topographical, ethnic, social, or cultural lines. While, as I believe there is with every action, there was a social precipice here, the individual executes the choice to carry out any action; as such, I believe individuals should be judged void of those cultural lines.
But the fact remains when a court decision comes down that upsets 'white' Americans, or when someone insults some basic tenant of wester civilization, desecrates our flag, marches on our soil claiming it belongs to another country and that it will be taken back, you don't see us white anglo saxons rioting in the streets. As far as I'm concerned the precipice you mention is irrelevant; all people are responsible for their actions no matter what, nor should others have to curtail perfectly lawful behavior or speech just to avoid hitting some trigger point of <insert victicrat group> and setting off a riot, losing one's job, or getting the living **** kicked out one and then being told it was their insensitivity to their assailant's culture that 'caused' them to react violently.
On one hand, you state a desire for the levelling of cultural, social, religious judgement, and on the other, state at times it is necessary. Which is it? We cannot manipulate culturally determinant factors for 'justice' whenever we see fit.
No we can't. But neither do we need to sit back and accept double standards. Therefore when, as an example, three white kids get railroaded by prosecutor on what turn out to be false charges of raping a black woman and are eventually cleared, it should not be verbotim to point out that the majority of people who are stupid enough to still believe the charges are black. No one would have any problem ****ting on a white woman for falsly charging a black man of rape. And those who believed the charges even after they're proven false would justly be called out for the predjudiced asses they are. But when the colors are reversed we have to 'understand', we have to be 'sensitive', it's a matter of culture and history. We have to think of the 'community'.
We have to, in so many words, ignore blatant stupidity on the part of a massive section of the population, which is distinctly delineated by race, because of political correctness. And it is therefore verbotin to go to said black community and say, in so many words, "Get your ****ing heads out of your asses. They're innocent, get over it. Just as it's wrong for whites to judge you as a group based on skin color, you'd better get your collective **** together and stop judging
us by our skin color."
As another example there was a racial flap here locally about ten years ago when a bunch of people started complaining about some latinos who moved into the neighborhood. At the town meetings you'd think the KKK had come out in force the way most latinos were talking. One of the houses in question was right up the street from my mother's house. The front door was always open, and eventually was just taken off the hinges and leaned against the front of the house. The lawn was unkempt, growing wild with garbage all over it. the house was on a corner, there was a lady who I grew up with whose house was on the cross road, her backyard looked over and into the yard of the house in question. There were matresses spread all over the yard, fires going in pits, garbage all over the place. Eventually the fences came down, and to say it was for lack of maintenance is to put it mildly. There were old appliances lying in the backyard, like refrigerators. The morons had parties to all hours of the night, cars were pulling up at all hours, people getting out, talking for five minutes and then leaving, which means drug deals for anyone who doesn't follow.
But, to listen to the latinos at town meetings you'd think the only reason people were complaining was because of the ethnicity of the people living at the house. There are Mexcians, Puerto Ricans, blacks from every damn country and God knows how many other ethnic groups and nationalities in this neighborhood. No one complained about them, and legitimate complaints were stifled for years because anyone who leveled them was called out as a racist, and this was done by those very same latinos who lived in that neighborhood that no one ever complained about.
The bottom line is the residents of that house were gutter trash pieces of ****. They were the worst kinds of druggies. They didn't maintain the place and let it go to seed in unbelievable ways. They disturbed the neighborhood, their kids harrassed other kids and were apparently starting **** in school. They turned a residential house into a hotbed operation with all kinds of rifraff coming and going in a neighborhood were kids, all kinds of kids, used to play safely in the streets.
But those who objected were racists. They just didn't 'understand'. They were 'ignorant'. Or maybe they just saw that the people in question were disgusting trash and rightly wanted them the **** out of the neighborhood. And because of some peculiar group think idiocy even the latinos who knew these people were **** flipped out at the very idea of getting rid of them, even just getting money together to buy them out and get them the **** out of the neighborhood. I didn't see any of them letting their kids play in the area of that house, but God forbid the people living near there commented on how they felt uncomfortable or scared, no matter how justified.
I am not justifying their behaviour based on the social climate of immigration in your country at this time; in fact, I am doing quite the opposite in condemning their actions. I am stating that if we are to judge individuals as individuals we must do it at all times.
Indeed we must. I'm not the one who needs to hear that though. The people who need to hear it these days are the race baiters, hustlers and pimps like Sharpton and Jackson, the touchy feelies who insist we 'understand' and what not, which is doublespeak for simply allowing attrocious behavior to go uncriticized because the great great grandfather of the person acting atrociously had a hard life, the person in question belongs to some other victicrat group whose integrity and permanent status as victim can't every be questioned.
