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    Warning signs of Fascism???


    Early warning signs of FASCISM???

    1. powerfull and continuing nationalism
    2. identification of enimies as a unifying cause
    3. supremacy of the military
    4. rampant sexism
    5. controlled mass media
    6. obsession with national security
    7. religion and government intertwined
    8. corporate power protected
    9. labor power supressed
    10. disdain for itellectuals & the arts
    11. obsession with crime and punishment
    12. rampant cronyism & corruption
    13. fraudulent elections
    IS ARE GOVERNMENT ON A PATH OF FASCISM
    OR IS THIS JUST BULL****

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    Sounds like the american governemt to my simple mind, all but #4 remember.... remember the 5th of november. If by path you mean the last 6 years of occupying foreing soil then ya.. path.
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    The only one on this list I see as even true is #12 and #7 to a degree. #12 is a huge problem in regards to politics.

    If it were up to me, the country would be more nationalist. When asked "what a person is" they wouldn't respond with the name of some country they've never visited, they'd respond "American" with pride.

    If it were up to me our enemies would be identified and they would have the life scared out of them. I don't care about right or wrong but I do care about preservation of all i care for and all I believe in. In other words, I care to preserve the hardass America that allowed us to enjoy these freedoms and luxuries.

    If it were up to me our military would be bigger, better equiped, and would have the power to do its job when required to: kill. No military person would be going to prison for doing their job.

    If you ask me, national security is so weak its pathetic. If we're letting in 15 thousand illegals per day from the mexican border we're also asking for big trouble for "national security".

    If it were up to me, people who commited crimes would "actually" be punished. None of this spending 20 years in jail before your execution for a multiple homicide crap. I'd remove the "cruel and unusual punishment" clause and stick violent offenders of the worst kind in a 10 x 10 glass cage with a big, horny, and rabid baboon in a room where the other offenders of similar kind can watch and prepare themselves for their fate.

    The rest of that stuff you're just seeing things. Rampant sexism? LOL. Not even close.

    Controlled mass media? i don't support our current president, and its blatantly obvious taht neither do the majority of our media. If anything, any fascist control of the media comes from our friends on the left.

    Labor power being suppressed is a joke, too. Labor power is just plain disappearing because our government won't support strong immigration policies and laborers are being undercut on wages by illegals who don't have the same expenses as American citizens with family in this country and are therefore willing/able to work for less.

    There definitely isn't a "disdain" for intellectuals--maybe the arts though considering that the only art that gets any attention by the media these days are things like "Piss Christ", and that lawyer / "artist" who painted a picture of the US on a toilet.

    And with "fraudulent elections"? LOL. That's just a joke. Absolutely a joke.
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    You cannot tell people NOT to kill by using violence as a learning tool, killing is done bc someone thinks their reason is right, and a govmt killing for their reasons still teaches people to kill each other. If bush cared aboput the US, he'd be doing something on the border, but he has his eyes on bigger fish, i wouldnt be surprised to see him make a strong comback in the last two years of service, go out on a strong note.
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    I've seen very strong evidence that strong enforcement of capital punishment decreases murder and other violent crimes.

    Wouldn't stop "passionate" crimes, etc, but it sure would stop criminals.

    And the government isn't there to "set an example". And, violent enforcement of laws isn't their learning tool. Its the fear that keeps people from acting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00 View Post
    I've seen very strong evidence that strong enforcement of capital punishment decreases murder and other violent crimes.

    Wouldn't stop "passionate" crimes, etc, but it sure would stop criminals.

    And the government isn't there to "set an example". And, violent enforcement of laws isn't their learning tool. Its the fear that keeps people from acting.
    The problem is the government IS people, and terrorists are people too... Its impossible to hand down mortal punishment for the sake of "democracy" or "border safety" be godly without being god. "people should not fear their governments, and governemnts should be free of their people." Fear and death do not heal, the middle east has been using righteous and godly punishment for centuries to culminate in a civil bloodbath, and what have we learned? well we keep on killing and we keep having to. love and peace have true power and there in lies the only healing ability man posseses. We are one, we are global. I sound kinda cheesy and fruity compared to "kill all those who tresspass" but death does not aide in life much like two wrongs dont make a right. life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
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    THIS MOVIE FROM 1946 SUMS IT UP PRETTY WELL
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    1. powerfull and continuing nationalism
    ( if the founding fathers didn't have that, we would not have had a revolution)

    2. identification of enimies as a unifying cause
    (war should always be unifying. WW2 unified the nation more so than this war... as well as a communist witch hunts.. was our govenemt deep in Fascism then?)

    3. supremacy of the military
    ( our military is the smallest it has been in national history. even smaller than pre ww2.. and its funding is also the lowest it has been.)

    4. rampant sexism
    (as a woman I do not see sexism anywhere. I see that the feminist movment has ruined our ability to be true women and now that we want to play with boys, we have to be treated like one... that is why we now treat most men as women..men at any place ihave worked the men were scared to ever talk to me about anything locker room.. men are scared of women HAHA! lol.)

    5. controlled mass media
    ( thats a leftist controlled issue...i thought they were the good guys protecting us from evil adolf bush)

    6. obsession with national security
    (we obsess now because we didn't care on a national level then. Buildings and planes has the ability to freak people out)

    7. religion and government intertwined
    ( good.. that aint us.. i see secular progressive taking over.. but.. they have an anti religion of liberalism.. so maybe its true)

    8. corporate power protected
    (well...cant really comment on this one. don't know enough about it)9. labor power supressed
    (its not supressed.. its going to illegals and over seas.. hitler did everything he could to keep labor in house.. even inventing jobs that didn't exsist.)

    10. disdain for itellectuals & the arts
    (bush has given more money to the arts than any liberal president.. and i hate that.. most colleges are liberal breading grounds so if intellectuals are conservative then i can see that point)

    11. obsession with crime and punishment
    ( crime should be punished)

    12. rampant cronyism & corruption
    (that is every government)

    13. fraudulent elections
    ( we have yet to see that one as well. Anyone using the 200 election is mis-informed to our election process. A very liberal court held bush as the winner... not manbearpig

    IS ARE GOVERNMENT ON A PATH OF FASCISM
    OR IS THIS JUST BULL**** ( ITS BULL! but we need to have a bit more nationalism to secure our nations future.)
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    I'm afraid we're near the opposite end of the spectrum entirely. Here's a real 'warning signs' list, created by Karl Marx.

    (Commentary blatantly borrowed entirely from 10 Planks of Carl Marx Implementation in America)

    The Ten Steps of Karl Marx Implementation in America


    THE TEN STEPS OF KARL MARX (With my comments interspersed). Taken from the Communist Manifesto

    1) Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.

    We already have this in America. Through property taxes we have been made serfs on our own land. Through tyrannical zoning laws, wetlands regulations, EPA regulations, etc., we no longer control our lands. Our once strong private property rights have been abolished through regulatory oppression, bureaucratic tyranny and unbiblical types of taxation.

    2) A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

    We already have this in America. The higher your income, the higher the tax bracket you are placed in for purposes of calculating your tax bill. This is completely evil and unBiblical. The Bible Teaches us the principle of the Flat Tax when it requires that everyone is to pay a Tithe (1/10) of their produce to the Lord. God did not say that the poor only pay 5% and the wealthy are to pay 25%. God said everyone rich or poor, pays the same percentage. Why do liberals pretend to want to tax the wealthy more? Because it advances their program for fomenting class envy and class warfare. Divide and conquer, that is the strategy of the evil communist liberals who are wrecking America with ever higher taxes and increasingly bigger government.

    3) Abolition of all right of inheritance.

    We already have this in America. The inheritance taxes are astronomically high and this is just plain evil. The Bible says in Proverbs 13:22 that "A good man leaves an inheritance to his children's children, and the wealth of the sinner is laid up for the just." Liberals want to destroy the family because strong families do not need socialism or government give away programs. Liberals want to destroy the ability of strong families to perpetuate the influence of their progeny by stealing half of their net worth through the imposition of confiscatory inheritance tax rates.

    4) Confiscation of the property of emigrants and rebels.

    We already have this in America. You have heard about "FORFEITURE LAWS." Many branches of local, state and federal law enforcement agencies and regulatory agencies are confiscating property, goods and money without a trial, without due process, etc. This is a perfect tool for the tyrant bureaucrat who wants to make your life hell. If you are not "Politically Correct" liberals will use these laws to harass you and confiscate your property.

    5) Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

    We already have this in America. It is called the Federal Reserve Bank. This is the single most evil, deadly and damaging of the 10 Planks of Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto. The counterfeit paper debt based monetary scheme that we now suffer is going to destroy our Republic, our liberty and our economy. The Federal Reserve System is an exclusive monopoly. The Federal Reserve is not a branch of the Federal Government and it does not have any reserves of Gold or Silver coin backing their "Federal Reserve Notes." Federal Reserve Notes are counterfeit Money, fiat money. The Federal Reserve controls our economy through it's monopolistic control of interest rates. We have a 20 Trillion Dollar Debt pyramid in this nation and one day it is all going to come crashing down. When it does crash, the bankers who gave us nothing more than paper money will repossess and confiscate nearly every home, business, farm, vehicle and all property in America that has a mortgage or outstanding balance on it. On that day you should take you gun out and kill as many communist liberals as you can find.

    6) Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the state.

    Communists, Socialists and Liberals have worked very hard to exercise complete control over the media via the FCC and monopolistic media mogul billionaires. At this time they control 90 to 95% of the media that the masses turn to for information. But the free press has proved more resilient than our enemies planned and the Internet is really upsetting their apple-cart. As for their efforts to centralize transportation, liberals are very anxious to force us all to use state run mass transit trains, subways and car pooling schemes. Thus we can see how the enemies of liberty have very nearly achieved their goal of fully implementing the sixth plank of the communist manifesto.

    7) Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State, the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

    American Communists, Socialists and Liberals have worked very hard to force central planning on farmers. They have been very successful through the use farm subsidies and regulations at destroying the small independent family owned farm. Today instead of family farms our nations food supply is produced and controlled by huge corporations and this is called "agri-business." This destruction of the family owned farms was not an accident of history, rather it was done by design. American Communists, Socialists and Liberals have worked very hard to force central planning on the manufacturing sector. By imposing millions of regulations on every minute aspect of business, they have either driven the small independent factories out of business or forced them to sell out to one of the large multi-national mega-corporations. Only the large corporations have the capability, the man-power to research and obey all of the millions of federal regulations. This destruction of the family owned factories was not an accident of history, rather it was done by design. Again we can see how the enemies of liberty have very nearly achieved their goal of fully implementing the seventh plank of the communist manifesto.

    8) Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

    American Communists, Socialists and Liberals have worked very hard to pass federal legislation to implement the goals of this Plank of Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto. So called "industrial armies" in modern parlance are known as Unions. The collection by "force" of Union Dues, from the employees who are subject to Forced Unionism, has been devastating to the political process in America. Every Union without exception supports left wing candidates with both money and man-power. As to the concept of equal pay for all workers regardless of skill or productivity, this plank of the communist manifesto has been implemented both in Union shops and via the minimum wage. But the minimum wage law violates the rights of private parties to contract without interference and is another example of the numerous ways that liberals have worked to implement Marxism in our nation.

    9) Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of population over the country.

    This is Social Engineering. This, for example, is telling people where to live and telling farmers and businessmen by dint of government regulations and central planning how to run their business! Yes we have plenty of Social Engineering in America. Yes our nation has been severely damaged by leftists who have been very successful at implementing to a greater or lesser degree all ten planks of the Communist Manifesto, but it is not yet absolute or irreversible.

    10) Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.

    Yes we have this in America. In my opinion this Plank of the Communist Manifesto ranks second place for the evil it has done to our nation. Our lousy, government run, Public School and Public University system costs three to four times more than it should and yet they do a poor job of educating the children. Now the Federal government is trying to take over public education in America. The Fed's are proposing through their Goals 2000 program, another program that is right out of the communist manifesto. It is called the "Schools to work program." But the worst aspect of government schools is that they are actively promoting and indoctrinating our children in the ideas of Marxism, big government, central planning, government run education, fiat currency or paper money, environmental extremism, forced unionism, evolution, feminism, homosexuality and socialism in general. May God Help Us to defeat our enemies peacefully now rather than by violence or war later.

    Here is the total:

    1. This goal has been fully implemented.
    2. This goal has been fully implemented.
    3. This goal is only partially implemented.
    4. This goal has been fully implemented.
    5. This goal has been fully implemented.
    6. This goal is only partially implemented.
    7. This goal is only partially implemented.
    8. This goal is only partially implemented.
    9. This goal is only partially implemented.
    10. This goal has been fully implemented.

    This means that America is already approximately 50 to 60% communist. Odd isn't it that the 60% figure is exactly what most conservative economists say we are paying in taxes when you add up every tax and combine that figure with the cost of Federal regulations.
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    The biggest scam is that Fascism and Communism are the opposite sides of the same coin. They are both about elite central power control that enslaves the population.

    Taxation is mandatory social welfare.(socialism communism)

    Corporatism / fascism is the privatization of everything.(corporate welfare)

    While it may appear that the corporations are owned by the public as share holders. The reality is that the majority of these shares (controlling interest) are owned by a select few(fascists)!


    These systems take away ownership from the people and redistribute the wealth to a select few!

    They both have the same goal of destroying the middle class!
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    Quote Originally Posted by anabolicrhino View Post
    The biggest scam is that Fascism and Communism are the opposite sides of the same coin. They are both about elite central power control that enslaves the population.

    Taxation is mandatory social welfare.(socialism communism)

    Corporatism / fascism is the privatization of everything.(corporate welfare)

    While it may appear that the corporations are owned by the public as share holders. The reality is that the majority of these shares (controlling interest) are owned by a select few(fascists)!


    These systems take away ownership from the people and redistribute the wealth to a select few!

    They both have the sane goal of destroying the middle class!

    Here is what Mussolini had to say on the subject(an excerpt from Wik).

    Anti-individualistic, the fascist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State, which stands for the conscience and the universal will of man as a historic entity.... The fascist conception of the State is all-embracing; outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have value.... Fascism is therefore opposed to that form of democracy which equates a nation to the majority, lowering it to the level of the largest number.... We are free to believe that this is the century of authority, a century tending to the 'right', a Fascist century. If the nineteenth century was the century of the individual (liberalism implies individualism) we are free to believe that this is the 'collective' century, and therefore the century of the State. (a version of the text is here).
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