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  1. Quote Originally Posted by B5150 View Post
    So lets summarize:
    I realize that it would be utterly imposible for a bill to pass changing the drinking age in the next 2 years or so.

    If the drinking age was 30 or so, it would be a different story.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by spatch View Post
    Like every other adult I talk to this about, your missing my point.

    Its not about my right to drink, nor is it about how much harder it is to be an adult than it is to be 18. Nor is it about a draft. Nor is it about drunk driving fatalites. Its about straight up violation of rights.

    The point is, senators pass laws that in no way can ever effect them. It would be the same if no one with brown eyes could run for senate, and a green/blue eyed senate passed a bill to make brown eyed people pay double the taxes that green/blue people have to.
    So,... you'd feel better electing your best friend, or yourself perhaps to legislate on/for the laws and regulation that effect you.
    THAT is your point.
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  3. I think you are doing quite well at proving my point.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by xtraflossy View Post
    So,... you'd feel better electing your best friend, or yourself perhaps to legislate on/for the laws and regulation that effect you.
    THAT is your point.
    my point is that senators pass laws that they are IMMUNE to. Would you be immature and short sighted if senators had to be 60 years old and they banned all those under 60 from drinking and you didnt like it?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by spatch View Post
    my point is that senators pass laws that they are IMMUNE to. Would you be immature and short sighted if senators had to be 60 years old and they banned all those under 60 from drinking and you didnt like it?
    So, the senators are neglecting the 18-21year old drinkers who vote?, This is such a small pecentage of the constiuency, that it would make no political sense to urge legislation to change the the drinking age, when that very act would upset the over 21year old voters, who are concerned about the health and behavior of the under 21 crowd. That would be political suicide, specifically because that same 18-21 demographic would not exist in 3 years. So, we are left with a law that may be unfair,to 18-21 year old drinking voters,( life is not fair), but is logical based upon risk and reward to the majority of the voting population. Sorry 18-21 voting drinkers but, you lose!...
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by anabolicrhino View Post
    So, the senators are neglecting the 18-21year old drinkers who vote?, This is such a small pecentage of the constiuency, that it would make no political sense to urge legislation to change the the drinking age, when that very act would upset the over 21year old voters, who are concerned about the health and behavior of the under 21 crowd. That would be political suicide, specifically because that same 18-21 demographic would not exist in 3 years. So, we are left with a law that may be unfair,to 18-21 year old drinking voters,( life is not fair), but is logical based upon risk and reward to the majority of the voting population. Sorry 18-21 voting drinkers but, you lose!...

    Yes I know this is a loosing battle, thats why I dont "do anything about it except support senators/presidential nominees with my viewpoints (even though they have no chance at winning).


    I'm going to take this time again to remind you folks to vote for a true american...

    The offical Kubby '08 support thread

    Kubby's getting the bronze in '08. I can feel it.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by size View Post
    I think you are doing quite well at proving my point.
    It's what it looks like to me too.

  8. spatch i completely understand what you are saying and at the same time i understand how many people are clinging onto your "drinking age" statement. people tend to see something and cling to only that idea.... NOT saying that thats what the majority of the posts were like but some....

    its completely ignorant to take 100% sides on this sort of topic. I dont think its fair that 18 year olds can fight and die in politics and not have a beer....I also understand that sometimes, sad to say, most people arent smart enough to look after themselves and need an extra push/barrier/boundary to help them.... you cant tell me that the majority of society, teenagers, 30 year olds, 40 year olds, 80 year olds DONT need alittle help when it comes to decision making.

    life's not fair though.... you are not 21 then you can't drink.... thats just sucky... if some old geezer recklessly lived life and now depends on social security....its sucks that i have to pay for his butt. all in the name of taking care of society....
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