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Old 08-13-2006, 12:08 AM   #31
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Don't be a sucker. It ain't the bureaucrats and the political hacks that are keeping you safe. It is your local police officers, the rank and file field operatives at the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, the DEA, the US custom, who carry out their missions and duties days in days out, and, the civilian truck drivers, the taxi drivers and the ordinary citizen who report in when they observe susipicious activities. It is our muslim friends who call in the FBI when suspected people are showing up in their communities. It is our allies in friendly foreign intelligence. These are the people who deserve the credit for keep us safe, while armchair quarterbacks criticise them and politically correct hypocrites tie their hands.
Good, that's why I pay them!
 
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Old 08-13-2006, 12:16 AM   #32
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Re: if you still think we are not at war you are CRAZY (and i'm not talking about ira

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".....The men told police they were buying the phones, which cost about $20 and come with a charger, taking them out of their packaging and selling them to a wholesaler in Texas for about $38 without the charger....."

Anybody buying this??
actually, I have a huge problem with this. They are basically telling us they can decide what constitutes a terrorism charge, which is pretty much up to their discretion. People have bought and resold far more ridiculous items, so their story doesn't seem that farfetched to me. There are plenty of people who do this in some of the crappier areas by where I live. They say that and airline info(which they have not said specifically what it is) is enough for a terrorism charge. If that is all that is needed, I know plenty of what they would call terrorists. Michigan has a large muslim community. This is just racial profiling. If more facts come out, and more evidence, then fine. But if not, this is a raping of personal rights. And what if they ARE telling the truth? What if they WERE trying to turn an easy buck? This is America, and it's not supposed to be this way.
 
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Old 08-13-2006, 12:18 AM   #33
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Yeah, it's unfortunate that we're being forced into this sort of a position. Everyone wins but the people.
 
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Old 08-13-2006, 12:28 AM   #34
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Re: if you still think we are not at war you are CRAZY (and i'm not talking about ira

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Yeah, it's unfortunate that we're being forced into this sort of a position. Everyone wins but the people.
Yeah, it's what disturbs me the most. In the past, we had a president that told us that the only thing we had to fear, was fear. Now we have one constantly reminding us to be afraid of EVERYTHING, and we are in danger. Instead of standing tall in the face of adversity, holding on to our beliefs and ideals as a nation, we are told by our leaders to cower, and sacrifice our personal freedoms and rights that have made our country unique, and that this is necessary for them to protect us. It is a disgrace.
 
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I'm not the biggest fan of our current presidential administration either... however, this isn't their fault. It's ours. We the "people" of this nation have "allowed" for our government to gradually retain more and more control over us. More control over our money, our jobs, our rights, even our thinking. It's pretty amazing if you research it. When our nation was founded, the government made up 4-6% of our economy... Nowadays, it makes up more like 44%. Granted, there's inflation... Inflation my ass. A 40% gain isn't inflation. It's socialism. But, I could be wrong. Perhaps it's what is best for our nation. Or, perhaps it is what's best for our leaders. At any rate, it's our faults. The government doesn't control the people. The people control the government. Or, do we?
 
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Old 08-13-2006, 12:47 AM   #36
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Re: if you still think we are not at war you are CRAZY (and i'm not talking about ira

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Yeah, it's what disturbs me the most. In the past, we had a president that told us that the only thing we had to fear, was fear. Now we have one constantly reminding us to be afraid of EVERYTHING, and we are in danger. Instead of standing tall in the face of adversity, holding on to our beliefs and ideals as a nation, we are told by our leaders to cower, and sacrifice our personal freedoms and rights that have made our country unique, and that this is necessary for them to protect us. It is a disgrace.

Yes it is a disgrace and some one will come along real soon and question your patriotism and loyalty to this country for saying so, and then start questioning if your one of those "damn lefty socialist commie bastards"
 
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Old 08-13-2006, 12:51 AM   #37
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Don't be a sucker. It ain't the bureaucrats and the political hacks that are keeping you safe. It is your local police officers, the rank and file field operatives at the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, the DEA, the US custom, who carry out their missions and duties days in days out, and, the civilian truck drivers, the taxi drivers and the ordinary citizen who report in when they observe susipicious activities. It is our muslim friends who call in the FBI when suspected people are showing up in their communities. It is our allies in friendly foreign intelligence. These are the people who deserve the credit for keep us safe, while armchair quarterbacks criticise them and politically correct hypocrites tie their hands.
Wow, for as hard as you tow the party line I would have thought you would have given W. and his crew ALL the credit.
But no, You got that one right. Dead on right.
 
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Heh, you didn't know Colonel? This administration has turned a lot of us right wingers off. Not off from being conservative, but off from this admin.
 
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Old 08-13-2006, 01:59 AM   #39
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Heh, you didn't know Colonel? This administration has turned a lot of us right wingers off. Not off from being conservative, but off from this admin.
Isn't that illegal?
 
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Old 08-13-2006, 09:19 AM   #40
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If it's not, it probably will be soon enough.
 
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Is it some sort of feitish? I mean, some people who profess to be skeptical about everything, including scientific evidence, hard copy original archive, taped admission/confession, yadayadayada. Yet, when it comes to bullsh1t excuses from some scumbags, lowlife, druggist or terrorists, these self proclaimed skeptics have an unstoppable urge to swallow everything whole, hook, line and sinker. They would even bend over backward to make excuses for them too. I really don't know if it is a feitish or a personality disorder. Kind of like those women who search the deathrow looking of rapists, murderers and psycopaths to marry. You have to wonder WTF is going on with them.
 
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Heh, you didn't know Colonel? This administration has turned a lot of us right wingers off. Not off from being conservative, but off from this admin.
Is being a Dem or a liberal so shameful these days, that every body and his grandma, has to pretend to be a conservative?

Is there some sort of directive from Mad Coward Dean that, the libs have to pretend to be conservative, in order to appear to have any shred of credibility?
 
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Wow, for as hard as you tow the party line I would have thought you would have given W. and his crew ALL the credit.
But no, You got that one right. Dead on right.
Don't patronize me. You don't know what you are talking about.

BTW, it is "toeing" the party line. Not towing.

Just b/c toeing the party line is your compatriot's modus operandi, do not pressume what others do is the same.
 
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actually, I have a huge problem with this. They are basically telling us they can decide what constitutes a terrorism charge, which is pretty much up to their discretion. People have bought and resold far more ridiculous items, so their story doesn't seem that farfetched to me. There are plenty of people who do this in some of the crappier areas by where I live. They say that and airline info(which they have not said specifically what it is) is enough for a terrorism charge. If that is all that is needed, I know plenty of what they would call terrorists. Michigan has a large muslim community. This is just racial profiling. If more facts come out, and more evidence, then fine. But if not, this is a raping of personal rights. And what if they ARE telling the truth? What if they WERE trying to turn an easy buck? This is America, and it's not supposed to be this way.
1. I am glad the Republic does not have to depend on you to safeguard its security.

2. I am not the least bit surprised at your comment. Afterall you are the who thinks 911 is an inside job. You have a very opened mind, to all kind of crackpot bs, unfortunately. Some people's mind is so open, that it has fallen off. But that would never happen to you. Yours is totally closed to scientific evidence as well as logic.

3. Having said that, I like you, and thus I have a special offer for you. My uncle has a beach front property in Iowa. You see, the men-in-black are trying to steal it from him. So he has an urgent need to sell and disappear. Afterall, who would understand these men-in-black conspiracy by the government to oppress us, but someone like you? So, how about it? Special deal for you. While we are on the subject, my cousin is selling the Brooklyn Bridge at bargain basement price. It seems that the G-men are at persecuting him on the east coast. So, what do you say? Fire sale, just for you!

4. Yeah right. Some numbnut 'wholesaler' in Texas wanna pay 2X for some damn phones he can get for half at WalMart. Does jetfuel fume cause brain damage?
 
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Bio... You didn't just imply that I'm a liberal did you? Perhaps I was just reading too far into that.
 
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Re: if you still think we are not at war you are CRAZY (and i'm not talking about ira

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Yeah, it's what disturbs me the most. In the past, we had a president that told us that the only thing we had to fear, was fear. Now we have one constantly reminding us to be afraid of EVERYTHING, and we are in danger. Instead of standing tall in the face of adversity, holding on to our beliefs and ideals as a nation, we are told by our leaders to cower, and sacrifice our personal freedoms and rights that have made our country unique, and that this is necessary for them to protect us. It is a disgrace.
I didn't know you are a military genius!

Wow! Them poor Israelis! If only they can have your intelligence. Think about it. All they have to do, is to march up into South Lebanon, "standing tall in the face of adversity, holding on to our beliefs and ideals as a nation". VICTORY against the Hezba!!!

All Hail General Jarhead!! Military Genius !
 
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Yes it is a disgrace and some one will come along real soon and question your patriotism and loyalty to this country for saying so, and then start questioning if your one of those "damn lefty socialist commie bastards"
No, My dear Sherlock. You can tell from what people write. Their posts tell you more than what you need or care to know about them.
 
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