[yeahright]

BBC NEWS | Health | Head-to-head: Fat tax

[bpmartyr]

If they use the BMI, alot of us with athletic builds are in for some taxing. BF% would be the way to go.

[yeahright]

Originally Posted by bpmartyr

If they use the BMI, alot of us with athletic builds are in for some taxing. BF% would be the way to go.

LOL, yep. They should probably just look at taxing unhealthy food items the way alcohol and tobacco are taxed.....earmark those tax revenues for health education and healthcare costs.

[Brent]

Originally Posted by yeahright

LOL, yep. They should probably just look at taxing unhealthy food items the way alcohol and tobacco are taxed.....earmark those tax revenues for health education and healthcare costs.

Unhealthy foods are the cheapest kind of food anyway, there is room to tax them.

[rocketscientist]

Originally Posted by yeahright

LOL, yep. They should probably just look at taxing unhealthy food items the way alcohol and tobacco are taxed.....earmark those tax revenues for health education and healthcare costs.

Yes!!! How cool would that be... it just makes sense. I've never even thought about that. You're a genious, man...

[Ziricote]

I'm not too keen on being taxed for my own BMI but I'd welcome tax on crappy foods.

[snakebyte05]

ditto to the tax on bad foods. I think even healthy people should have that tax than, its bad food, you want it, pay for it. Plus its not like there would be a $1 increase on this, it would probably be like 5-10 cents, such a small amount on a personal level but a large amount of money for the government to rake in.

[bms0lsc]

I live in England so I pay taxes that go towards funding the NHS, but I can't remember the last time I used an NHS service. It annoys me that I take care of myself but have to pay for those that don't. I don't know how it works in the US, but I believe you all have private health insurance and (in some respects) I think that'd work better than the NHS.

Off the top of my head, poor diet/exercise habits cost our government £6 billion, whilst smoking related diseases cost us £2 billion. I'd definitely be in favour of a bad food tax; BMI doesn't always relate well to overall health IMO.

[snakebyte05]

Originally Posted by bms0lsc

I live in England so I pay taxes that go towards funding the NHS, but I can't remember the last time I used an NHS service. It annoys me that I take care of myself but have to pay for those that don't. I don't know how it works in the US, but I believe you all have private health insurance and (in some respects) I think that'd work better than the NHS.

Off the top of my head, poor diet/exercise habits cost our government £6 billion, whilst smoking related diseases cost us £2 billion. I'd definitely be in favour of a bad food tax; BMI doesn't always relate well to overall health IMO.

Yea we have private insurance, but it still has its problems. Everyones health insurance is raised because of those that dont take care of themselves regardless if we are adding new stuff to our insurance. For some reason the companies just dont think its a good idea to tax fat people, smokers and what not who all use their insurance way too much from it.

[yeahright]

Originally Posted by bms0lsc

I don't know how it works in the US, but I believe you all have private health insurance and (in some respects) I think that'd work better than the NHS.

It doesn't. Currently 45 million Americans don't have ANY health coverage at all. Many Americans have health coverage but cannot afford to pay for their treatments and medicines. The NHS rations healthcare based upon medical need, in the US healthcare is rationed based upon ability to pay.

[Ziricote]

Originally Posted by bms0lsc

I live in England so I pay taxes that go towards funding the NHS, but I can't remember the last time I used an NHS service. It annoys me that I take care of myself but have to pay for those that don't. I don't know how it works in the US, but I believe you all have private health insurance and (in some respects) I think that'd work better than the NHS.

Off the top of my head, poor diet/exercise habits cost our government £6 billion, whilst smoking related diseases cost us £2 billion. I'd definitely be in favour of a bad food tax; BMI doesn't always relate well to overall health IMO.

I really hate this aswell, things like NHS funded heroin clinics for addicts (I believe that was what it was anyway) so that they reduce risk of hiv, ect. It's just rediculous.

[jomi822]

We should absolutely not have a fat tax. that is absurd. it is your body and by all means if you want to be a repulsive piece of fat **** then you have that prerogative. we here at anabolicminds should understand more than most that laws should be kept off our bodies.

also there is no way such a thing could be enforced. Many of us here on bulking diets pound down a ton of unhealthy foods, and what about that ectomorph that decides he wants to have his once a week small sized bag of lays potatoe chips, should he be taxed? absolutely not.

The way i would handle this situation is by changing the way we handle the medical emergencies of obese individuals. if a 400 pounds man is driven to the hospital with a heart attack at the same time as a 180lb man that is not declared medically obese....then we need to have laws that force the doctors to care for the 180lb man first and not the repulsive drain on society's resources.

i am sorry but these disgusting people need to either change their lifestyles or deal with some consquences.

[snakebyte05]

Originally Posted by jomi822

We should absolutely not have a fat tax. that is absurd. it is your body and by all means if you want to be a repulsive piece of fat **** then you have that prerogative. we here at anabolicminds should understand more than most that laws should be kept off our bodies.

also there is no way such a thing could be enforced. Many of us here on bulking diets pound down a ton of unhealthy foods, and what about that ectomorph that decides he wants to have his once a week small sized bag of lays potatoe chips, should he be taxed? absolutely not.

The way i would handle this situation is by changing the way we handle the medical emergencies of obese individuals. if a 400 pounds man is driven to the hospital with a heart attack at the same time as a 180lb man that is not declared medically obese....then we need to have laws that force the doctors to care for the 180lb man first and not the repulsive drain on society's resources.

i am sorry but these disgusting people need to either change their lifestyles or deal with some consquences.

I think the medical example you said is worse than a fat tax and more of an unfair law based on body weight than say taxing some junk food. We are not talking about a large tax, 5-10cents on bad food (potato chips, not small things like candy bars, taxx would be proportional to the amount of food/fat in it). In reality I think this is very fair, you have a choice if you want to get taxed or not. It is different comparing weight lifting and healthy lifestyles to unhealthy ones. Steroid users are not a drain on our society like obese people are, I dont believe you could argue that they are.

[jomi822]

Originally Posted by snakebyte05

I think the medical example you said is worse than a fat tax and more of an unfair law based on body weight than say taxing some junk food. We are not talking about a large tax, 5-10cents on bad food (potato chips, not small things like candy bars, taxx would be proportional to the amount of food/fat in it). In reality I think this is very fair, you have a choice if you want to get taxed or not. It is different comparing weight lifting and healthy lifestyles to unhealthy ones. Steroid users are not a drain on our society like obese people are, I dont believe you could argue that they are.

steroid users are by no means a drain on society, and fat people certainly are. why should they recieve equal medical care when they are a complete burden on the system, THROUGH THEIR OWN FAULT.

i peronally enjoy eating a bag of potatoe chips every once in awhile and i cant see any damn reason why i should be taxed for it. i am also averse to the idea that we should tax everything that seems socially unacceptable. that is known as oppression, furthermore it is a very broad and nonspecific oppression, affecting people that fat tax isnt meant to target.

no, i believe that not bailing out these repulsively overweight people when their disgusting lifestyle finally gives them a heart attack/stroke/etc. would be the best way of turning some lifestyles around. of course this would never happen because it might offend some people, and politicians will jump all over any idea for new taxes. the problem will never be solved, not that i thinkt he government should be getting its slimy hands involved in the first place.

[snakebyte05]

Originally Posted by jomi822

steroid users are by no means a drain on society, and fat people certainly are. why should they recieve equal medical care when they are a complete burden on the system, THROUGH THEIR OWN FAULT.

i peronally enjoy eating a bag of potatoe chips every once in awhile and i cant see any damn reason why i should be taxed for it. i am also averse to the idea that we should tax everything that seems socially unacceptable. that is known as oppression, furthermore it is a very broad and nonspecific oppression, affecting people that fat tax isnt meant to target.

no, i believe that not bailing out these repulsively overweight people when their disgusting lifestyle finally gives them a heart attack/stroke/etc. would be the best way of turning some lifestyles around. of course this would never happen because it might offend some people, and politicians will jump all over any idea for new taxes. the problem will never be solved, not that i thinkt he government should be getting its slimy hands involved in the first place.

I understand what you mean with the tax, but I just cant see just letting someone die in a situation like you mentioned due to being fat, that just seems very harsh. This will just always be a problem that seems to have no solution (except making it socially acceptable to make fun of them, instead of acting like its alright and adverting our eyes). I have no beef with someone who is a little over weight, **** happens, everyone at some point will probably get 20lbs or so over weight, but its those that refuse to do anything about, act like its not their fault and and say that they have a disease that I cant stand.

[Jayhawkk]

I'm one of the eople who pay hundred(s) a month insurance and can barely afford to pay for my share of any exames. I just had to pay 300 bucks for an MRI. Health care sucks.

[bms0lsc]

Originally Posted by jomi822

steroid users are by no means a drain on society, and fat people certainly are. why should they recieve equal medical care when they are a complete burden on the system, THROUGH THEIR OWN FAULT.

i peronally enjoy eating a bag of potatoe chips every once in awhile and i cant see any damn reason why i should be taxed for it. i am also averse to the idea that we should tax everything that seems socially unacceptable. that is known as oppression, furthermore it is a very broad and nonspecific oppression, affecting people that fat tax isnt meant to target.

no, i believe that not bailing out these repulsively overweight people when their disgusting lifestyle finally gives them a heart attack/stroke/etc. would be the best way of turning some lifestyles around. of course this would never happen because it might offend some people, and politicians will jump all over any idea for new taxes. the problem will never be solved, not that i thinkt he government should be getting its slimy hands involved in the first place.

After thinking about it, I don't think a tax on unhealthy foods would work. Would a few cents extra on a chocoloate bar or a packet of crisps stop these people from eating them, day in and day out? No. They would just 'absorb' the extra cost, whi