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Old 06-01-2006, 01:22 PM   #1
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Proposal to Implant Tracking Chips in Immigrants

This is an interesting article, but I imagine to many it is not a surprise. It seems that this sort of technology is being pushed world wide. For some, this has many scary implications.

Tracking Implants

Verichip Tracking
 



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Old 06-01-2006, 01:29 PM   #2
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would be a great idea keeping track of the guest worker plan if it ever comes about....

now to find a way to make them blow up if they over stay their welcome....or.. less harsh... they just fall to the ground and we can come around and pick them up, take out the chip and let them run free in their home land...
 
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I don't understand why a company hasn't come out with something like this for our children.

I know when my girl is able to go outside and play or ride a bike... you better be dang sure I want something like this.

How many kidnappings of little girls are there each year? Alot.. and I don't want her to be a statistic.
 



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Old 06-01-2006, 01:45 PM   #4
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I don't understand why a company hasn't come out with something like this for our children.
There are chips for that purpose. You can have the chips implanted that also contain complete medical records.

However, there are problems with these from a privacy standpoint and a religious perspective. In regards to privacy, would you want someone to know at all times where you were or where your child was? My answer is no. In regards to religious implications, this often sounds similar to the notion of the "mark of the beast".
 



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There are chips for that purpose. You can have the chips implanted that also contain complete medical records.

However, there are problems with these from a privacy standpoint and a religious perspective. In regards to privacy, would you want someone to know at all times where you were or where your child was? My answer is no. In regards to religious implications, this often sounds similar to the notion of the "mark of the beast".
Do you have any links or names of places. My father in law and I were talking about this and he wants to do it for my sister in law who is 7.

If something were to happen and I had considered it but not followed through... I think that far out ways not doing it due to privacy issues. Especially if it's something that can be removed when she is 20 or so.

I am not a religious person at all. I have never heard the implant being reffered to "Mark of the beast" Interesting.
 



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Here is one place to start, VeriChips
here is an article about this being done in Japan but the tracking devices are not implanted.
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yeah some very christian right, mostly the ones that say that god kills troops because of gay people.. think thats how the the Antichrist will control its people... however.. the reality is thusly... your body is not god's but made by god, it is of the earth.. your soul IS god and you cant put a chip in that...
 
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its a good idea but its kind of of treating them like animals and it will be expensive.....
 



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As expensive as illegal aliens getting free health care at our hospitals and free education for their children at our schools?
 
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So long, freedom. I hardly knew ye.
 
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freedom haha.. you really think we are free? Adding a chip into the body isnt really going to be any different then having a cell phone, or cedit card or ezpass... they know where we are at all times... safe and sound ;-)
 
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Maynard's right - everything you do is tracked one way or another. If someone really wanted to they could pinpoint your location just from being logged in to this website, unless you were taking steps to prevent that.

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I am not a religious person at all. I have never heard the implant being reffered to "Mark of the beast" Interesting.
When i was a kid, my parents went to this crazy Assembly of God church - looking back on it - this place was a boarderline cult but back in the 80's there was a lot of that going around. Anyway, I remember my Mom taking me there for 'movie night' and it was this movie about the end times, when the anti christ was implanting chips into everyone and branding them with UPC codes. I was terrified.

Ive absolved myself of any form of religion now, but the thought of implanting tracking chips is still a little scary. If I were a parent, I'd definitely want it done though...the trouble kids can get into these days and the wackos out there...just seems to get worse as time goes on.
 




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As expensive as illegal aliens getting free health care at our hospitals and free education for their children at our schools?

i dont know ..... you probably are right though....itd probably cut costs instead of increasing it. its just that alot of times the simplest things are expensive just becasue.....like ipods.....medicine (most)...etc....
 



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There's a huge difference between voluntarily using a credit card or cellphone and the implanting of a chip that's on 24/7. There's the issue of the fourth amendment and the sanctity of one's body, the laws permitting tagging felons externally, but implanting noncriminals?

Assuming it's legal, there's the issue of removal when an immigrant wants to go off the grid, ice, a big swig of tequila and an razor will remove them from the skin at the 0.25" depth they are in.

We citizens will see Biometric ID with public and private database linkage,then car chipping, then distance retinal scanning ala "Minority Report", all beatable before implants are tried and personally speaking, no way, no how will I volunatrily permit anyone to ever chip my body or even my car. One might say that maybe one won't have a option, I would say there are always options avaliable.
I agree. If implanting a tracking device on legal guest workers is considered to be justified, then every convicted prisoner have even less right to refuse such a procedure.
 
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I agree. If implanting a tracking device on legal guest workers is considered to be justified, then every convicted prisoner have even less right to refuse such a procedure.
Agreed. All these people are doing is coming here to work and learn. If we can't chip all the killers and rappist why should we even cosider doing it to immigrants?!
 
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How about them chips that they stuck in Ethan Hunt's head in M:I:III?

Chip them all and let god sort them out!

Badges?...We don't have no,...we don't have to show you no stinking badges!!!

I am wearing a personal ID biometric device right now and I look and feel great! It is swell to feel the confidence that 24hour global tracking brings to my life...of course I could just turn my cell phone off!..but then they would know that I was on to them...wait a minute are you...sorry wrong number.(click!)
 
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Why is something like this even being considered? They should be rounded up and sent home, then shot as an invader if they come back, it's as simple as that!! I don't know about the rest of y'all,but I'm damned tired of losing 55% of my check to taxes to fund bullsh!t like this!!

My bio father followed the rules to become an American citizen, fought for this country and died for it. Who the hell are they do just waltz across the border and expect us to embrace them for breaking the law?
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