Our Politicians, Denizens of our Moral Fiber...

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  1. Our Politicians, Denizens of our Moral Fiber...


    Righteous god-granted soldiers of truth, deciding how we should live our lives and what are inalienable rights *really* are...

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12521205/


  2. It seriously is time to clean house. Unfortunately, people are like sheep and keep voting these scumbag incumbants in office. I seriously hope the Cunnigham case leads to dozens of other arrests and prosicutions..but I doubt it.

    You should read all the crap DeLay had his fingers in..the f'in hypocrite and his righteous family values BS. Makes ya wanna scream.

    http://www.texasobserver.org/showArt...Article****1743
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  3. The Republican party is pretty much the grimy slopbucket of ethics in American politics. Greedy, profit mongering bastards who smile at you but have no objection to bending you over so long as it benefits them. Praise family values but regularly violates the Seven Origninal Sins and the Ten Commandments.

    I'm glad the Republicans are getting their due. Rush Limbaugh was arrested for prescription drugs recently. The same guy that wants nothing but harsh punishments for drug users, you think he wants the same harshness towards him?

  4. You should read all the crap DeLay had his fingers in..the f'in hypocrite and his righteous family values BS. Makes ya wanna scream.

    http://www.texasobserver.org/showArt...Article****1743
    Holy ****. These people are just filthy scoundrels...they're evil. I wonder how far this kind of **** is going to go before the drastic changes that are needed to fix this country's downward spiral are going to be made.

    BV

  5. I can't wait to be a politician. I actually have morals and stuff... crazy.. I know.
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  6. The Dems aren't really any better, but it seems like lately their level of corruption is like comparing a stupid Vaudeville act to a Broadway performance.

    I suppose I still struggle with being naive..I have a hard time believing how vile these people are but the proof just keeps showing up everywhere. The stuff in Saipan is just so sad...that we in any way can do that to people in this day and age. Someone has to pay for that evil.

  7. Jesus Christ, when will this madness end ? Do we have to stockpile guns, march to DC and incarcerate those ****ers oourselves ?

  8. I'm in!

  9. Quote Originally Posted by bioman
    The Dems aren't really any better, but it seems like lately their level of corruption is like comparing a stupid Vaudeville act to a Broadway performance.
    I see no difference. The Republicans pander to businesses, making favorable laws for them and ignoring illegal behavior so they can reap profits in ways a true capitalist society would never allow. The Democrats pander to the poor and entitlement crazy, and are one of the major reasons we have 12 million illlegal aliens marching in our streets on a regular basis demanding their 'rights,' mainly referring to their 'right' to violate crucial security laws, their 'right' to your and my money, and their 'right' to burn American flags and fly them upside down under the Mexican flag.

    You'll find equal corruption all around. Both sides claim the moral high ground while they're wallowing in ethical ****.

  10. I'm with Bio on the distrust on both sides. Before I joined this site, I had the most negative impression of people who invoke Christ in everything they do. I was guilty of judging based on religious affiliation.

    Since coming here, I've found some of the smartest, kindest people to be very openly Christian, and I think it is great. These scumbag, hypocrite politicains do nothing more than stuff their pockets as they deepen the divide among different groups within our own country. They set the stereotypes that make some of us (our own ignorance) judge based on those stereotypes.

  11. I'm with Bio on the distrust on both sides. Before I joined this site, I had the most negative impression of people who invoke Christ in everything they do. I was guilty of judging based on religious affiliation.

    Since coming here, I've found some of the smartest, kindest people to be very openly Christian, and I think it is great. These scumbag, hypocrite politicains do nothing more than stuff their pockets as they deepen the divide among different groups within our own country. They set the stereotypes that make some of us (our own ignorance) judge based on those stereotypes.
    +1, although I still dont trust overly religious types.
    Last edited by BigVrunga; 04-29-2006 at 04:03 PM.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Beowulf
    I'm with Bio on the distrust on both sides. Before I joined this site, I had the most negative impression of people who invoke Christ in everything they do. I was guilty of judging based on religious affiliation.

    Since coming here, I've found some of the smartest, kindest people to be very openly Christian, and I think it is great. These scumbag, hypocrite politicains do nothing more than stuff their pockets as they deepen the divide among different groups within our own country. They set the stereotypes that make some of us (our own ignorance) judge based on those stereotypes.
    I've found a teacher who can still learn to be a rare but valuable commodity. Reps to you.

  13. It'd be cool to start a Moderate Party and just kick the crap out of all the extremists, ideaological zealots and crooks at the polling boths, but I think things have to get worse before that can happen.

    I like a lot of what the Libertarians have to offer, however selling off the publics lands is something I cannot support. Open borders I am not fond of either and I think if they ditched these two pillars of their ideaology, they'd go much, much further with the public. We need some of their ideaologies in our govt...independence from govt handouts, lower taxes, less govt.

  14. Maybe we should start our own party, and have a million bodybuilder march on washington

  15. Quote Originally Posted by BigVrunga
    Maybe we should start our own party, and have a million bodybuilder march on washington
    ...on the Million Body Builder March this past weekend, Patrick Arnold was quoted, "I seriously doubt it was a million body builders. However the march I organized was much closer to its projected participation numbers..."

  16. A serious third party, one that can actually challenge the two in existence now, is the only way we can keep politicians in check. Why should either party adhere to ethics when they know that they are the only people who will get elected. Its also a joke to to think that either party believes they represent us. UNtil you and I can afford lobbyists and genorous donations we will never have a voice. Politics make me sick to my stomach because I can't make a difference. Personally, I think voting is a joke(I do vote). These people USE us to get into office and then only react based on what lines their pockets. I'll quit there because I could go on for awhile.

  17. You're right, Spartan117. I vote too, but whenever Im at the polls it feels like I'm making a choice between the lesser of two evils, rather than someone I actually believe in.

  18. Actually, most TRUE teachers you come across are willing to learn more than they teach.. most of the posers are the ones that give teachers a bad name..

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Spartan117
    A serious third party, one that can actually challenge the two in existence now, is the only way we can keep politicians in check. Why should either party adhere to ethics when they know that they are the only people who will get elected. Its also a joke to to think that either party believes they represent us. UNtil you and I can afford lobbyists and genorous donations we will never have a voice. Politics make me sick to my stomach because I can't make a difference. Personally, I think voting is a joke(I do vote). These people USE us to get into office and then only react based on what lines their pockets. I'll quit there because I could go on for awhile.
    Your right politics on the national level is a ****ing joke! It seems they either sell themselves for a handfull of rice or pose to be something they aren`t.

  20. There's about a dozen factors coming into place that will make all of that just go away.

    Global warming and rising ocean levels are going to seriously **** things up..Katrina x 100.

    The influx of illegals mooching off the system precisely at the right time before all the baby boomers retire and need to rely on them..oopsey.

    The Iraqi quagmire really seems to only get worse and no one has the bollocks to either pull out or escalate so here we are in a costly 'Nam part two. Probably spend almost a trillion bucks before leaving.

    Rise in world demand for oil making it very unlikely that prices will ever go down. Many experts predict prices doubling in the next 3-5 years.

    The loss of value of the US dollar while the Euro continues to climb. The Saudis now only take Euros, and why wouldn't they? So poof..35% jump in oil prices.

    The Feds are seriously looking into fedralizing home owner's insurance in all the areas the insurance companies won't cover..CA, LA, MS, AL, FL. Ouch.

    More than a few experts are predicting a recession very soon.

    I need a drink

  21. Sadly, the greatest bodybuilding representative we could ever have is already governing the state of California. The sad part is he is a complete tool of the system.

    Always question all authority!!!

    If your representation is not by the people, of the people and for the people, they must be removed...

    That is not only your constitutional right. It is your constitutional obligation!

  22. Quote Originally Posted by BigVrunga
    You're right, Spartan117. I vote too, but whenever Im at the polls it feels like I'm making a choice between the lesser of two evils, rather than someone I actually believe in.
    word - and these days, voting for EITHER evil just makes me want to puke.

    I'm down with a TRUE 3rd party; I've voted Libertarian for years, but the Libs are more a debating society than a force for real change & real sanity - hell, a vast number of reactionary, hard-shell control freaks have been calling themselves 'libertarians' for years, to the point that a lot of folks who have true libertarian ideals are put off by the likes of Boortz & Hannity. Makes me doubt that my protest vote is delivering the message I'm trying to send.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by BigVrunga
    You're right, Spartan117. I vote too, but whenever Im at the polls it feels like I'm making a choice between the lesser of two evils, rather than someone I actually believe in.
    I do not mean to be a prick, but whose fault is that? There are other options. Reading one of my looney right wing magazines today, I ran across a story about fatalism. Someone is given a puzzle they can't solve, even goes to the point of trying to find the solution on the web but can't, and gives it up as impossible. They lend it to someone who quite simply has a different attitude and within days the puzzle is solved.

    As long as individual voters are fatalistic and vote for what they think is the slow road to hell rather than voting for what they believe in this country is going to go to ****. There are other choices and that they don't get elected is quite frankly the fault of the people who don't elect them. Vote for what you believe in or don't vote at all. You do no one, including yourself, any favors by voting for what you think is the lesser of two evils.

    I'm no fan of democracy in general, I think it's doomed to failure. However, that could easily be turned around by the people. Here in America we are given an actual voice in creating our government. There's nothing forcing you to vote for the candidate who got the most air time. There's nothing forcing you to vote for the lesser of two evils. Doing so is like blindly believing any other type of advertisement, and I don't think people buy everything they see a commercial for. Most Americans have taken a fatalistic view of voting, and devalued the act of voting or have simply stopped doing so. That is their own fault.
    Last edited by CDB; 04-30-2006 at 12:47 PM.

  24. lol body wizard actually said "word" lol

  25. I do not mean to be a prick, but whose fault is that? There are other options. Reading one of my looney right wing magazines today, I ran across a story about fatalism. Someone is given a puzzle they can't solve, even goes to the point of trying to find the solution on the web but can't, and gives it up as impossible. They lend it to someone who quite simply has a different attitude and within days the puzzle is solved.

    As long as individual voters are fatalistic and vote for what they think is the slow road to hell rather than voting for what they believe in this country is going to go to ****. There are other choices and that they don't get elected is quite frankly the fault of the people who don't elect them. Vote for what you believe in or don't vote at all. You do no one, including yourself, any favors by voting for what you think is the lesser of two evils.

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    You're not being a prick CDB - I agree with what you said there. The reality of it is though, either a Democrat or a Republican is going to win a major election. Voicing your opinion by voting for a more obscure party often just serves the purpose of taking votes 'away' from one of the major parties, allowing the party you didnt want in there in the first place to win the election.

    It's either the Democrats or the Republicans who win major elections. That's the problem. And you're right the power to change that is in the people, but it doesnt happen. So by voting for another, more obscure party, my vote basically does jack ****.

    Saying the people have the power to elect anyone they want and all that is true, but neglects the enourmous amount of cash and media influence someone needs to have even half a chance at running in a major political election.

    I'm no fan of democracy in general, I think it's doomed to failure. However, that could easily be turned around by the people. Here in America we are given an actual voice in creating our government. There's nothing forcing you to vote for the candidate who got the most air time. There's nothing forcing you to vote for the lesser of two evils. Doing so is like blindly believing any other type of advertisement, and I don't think people buy everything they see a commercial for. Most Americans have taken a fatalistic view of voting, and devalued the act of voting or have simply stopped doing so. That is their own fault
    Right, but one of those 'two evils' IS going to win, regardless of where I cast my vote. Even when there is a strong 3rd party candidate, he basically just serves to take votes away from one of the two major parties. They've got a monopoly on power although voting them out could change things, its going to be a long time before it ever happens.

    BV
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