Who is more happy in life
- 03-15-2006, 12:07 PM
Who is more happy in life
Political Party Affiliation
Some 45% of all Republicans report being very happy, compared with just 30% of Democrats and 29% of independents. This finding has also been around a long time; Republicans have been happier than Democrats every year since the General Social Survey began taking its measurements in 1972. Pew surveys since 1991 also show a partisan gap on happiness; the current 16 percentage point gap is among the largest in Pew surveys, rivaled only by a 17 point gap in February 2003.
Could it be that Republicans are so much happier now because their party controls all the levers of federal power? Not likely. Since 1972, the GOP happiness edge over Democrats has ebbed and flowed in a pattern that appears unrelated to which party is in political power.
For example, Republicans had up to a 10 and 11 percentage point happiness edge over Democrats in various years of both the Carter and Clinton presidencies, and as small as a three and five percentage point edge in various years of the Reagan and first Bush presidencies. Also, we should explain here a bit about how our survey questionnaire was constructed. The question about happiness was posed at the very beginning of the interview, while the question about political affiliation was posed at the back end, along with questions about demographic traits. So respondents were not cued to consider their happiness through the frame of partisan politics. This question is about happiness; it is not a question about happiness with partisan outcomes.
Of course, there's a more obvious explanation for the Republicans' happiness edge. Republicans tend to have more money than Democrats, and -- as we've already discovered -- people who have more money tend to be happier.
But even this explanation only goes so far. If one controls for household income, Republicans still hold a significant edge: that is, poor Republicans are happier than poor Democrats; middle-income Republicans are happier than middle-income Democrats, and rich Republicans are happier than rich Democrats.
Might ideology be the key? It's true that conservatives, who are more likely to be Republican, are happier than liberals, who are more likely to be Democrats. But even controlling for this ideological factor, a significant partisan gap remains. Conservative Republicans are happier than conservative Democrats, and moderate/liberal Republicans are happier than liberal Democrats. Hmmm, what other factors might be at play? Well, there's always...
People who attend religious services weekly or more are happier (43% very happy) than those who attend monthly or less (31%); or seldom or never (26%). This correlation between happiness and frequency of church attendance has been a consistent finding in the General Social Surveys taken over the years.
The same pattern applies within all major religious denominations. For example, 38% of all Catholics who attend church weekly or more report being very happy, while just 28% of Catholics who attend church less often say they are very happy. The survey also finds that white evangelical Protestants (43%) are more likely than white mainline Protestants (33%) to report being very happy, but this difference goes away after taking frequency of church attendance into account.
- 03-15-2006, 12:36 PM
03-15-2006, 12:51 PM
03-15-2006, 12:57 PM
lol don't shoot the messanger.. most of my republican friends i know are not happy... cause they hate bush for not being a republican lol.. and obviously you are within that 31% so.. good everyone should feel happy .. some times in life.. but.. we are young.. i think this poll doesn't deal with college and post college students.. its more for middle aged men and women etc.. i think..
03-15-2006, 02:42 PM
03-15-2006, 02:49 PM
03-15-2006, 03:12 PM
The phrase "ignorance is bliss" comes to mind. lol
Seriously though, I do believe the poll results. I'm a moderate Dem with some libertarian leanings but 10 years ago I was almost radically liberal. In those days I was indeed less happy..with myself, my situation in life and I absolutely hated society. I was a true misanthrope.
I think there comes a point where one realizes that society is what it is and you are not going to change it. Once you let go of some percieved need to change everything or rail against everything you do not approve of, it's easier to find peace with yourself and in doing so, make peace with the world at large. Live and let live in other words.
On the flipside, I think that a lot of conservative to ultra conservatives would practically die before admitting they are not happy or that they don't find total fulfillment in going to church, work, et cetera. It's an old school mentality that says not being happy or complaining is weakness. Sort of like the old man who toughs out 3 or 4 days of chest pains before finally passing out from a myocardial infarction.
I find value in all trains of thought so don't feel I am picking on any given group, just making an observation.
03-15-2006, 03:22 PM
03-15-2006, 04:48 PM
Certainly one of the most accurate statements of all time was Abraham Lincoln's observation that people are generally about as happy as they make up their minds to be...
03-20-2006, 05:01 PM
03-20-2006, 05:07 PM
As I alluded..that would require total honesty on the part of the participants over a rather subjective topic and that never happens.
03-26-2006, 01:26 AM
03-26-2006, 09:37 AM
I don't think that poll evidences that conservatives are happier, but it does confirm our suspicion that they are in fact liars
I could have written this myself. I loathed everyone and everything for a time. Glad that is over!Seriously though, I do believe the poll results. I'm a moderate Dem with some libertarian leanings but 10 years ago I was almost radically liberal. In those days I was indeed less happy..with myself, my situation in life and I absolutely hated society. I was a true misanthrope.
I don't necessarily think that widespread social change is possible, but from my experience teaching in an urban high school, I can honestly say that while societal change may be impossible, individuals can help individuals. I have experienced it first hand. The school where I worked sent many kids from disadvantaged backgrounds to good schools where they continued to thrive.
03-26-2006, 11:42 AM
most thrive because even "good" schools have been so stunted in any sort of true value of education. I get your disadvantaged kids in my college class room.. and these kids are no worse and no better than "advantaged" kids.
I may actually have 12 students out of 7 classes holding roughly 22 students each.. i teach that are up to par for a college setting.
As for lies. It is not needed in the aspect of this poll. The simple fact is those with more conservative views tend to have more trust in the system.. obvioulsy it doesn't even matter on income, race etc. If they hold a conservative mind-set they are happier.
If that is a good or bad thing.... i have no idea.
03-27-2006, 05:51 AM
I was sorta kinding about the liars comment. Well, if we're talking political leaders, I would have to agree with Milwood: they're both full of ****!
03-27-2006, 01:37 PM
i agree with the poll. everyone *****es and complains but liberals/democrats often take it to a new level.... How could they be happy? look at freakin san francisco..... all those hippies there complain so much they cant see the positive in anything....
and of course....being too much of anything, liberal or conservative, is almost always a bad thing
03-27-2006, 07:34 PM
I'm disappointed. I can't believe in a board where education is crucial that we have such sweeping statements except oh yeah, I do it too.complains but liberals/democrats often take it to a new level
I went to the Political Compass site and did a test. The questions were ok but I got something to the effect of -5 for Left and Right, and -6 for for Authoritarian and Libertarian. Both are out of + or - 8. So I'm Left-Libertarian and consider myself a happy person.
Most hippies are that way just to belong to something. Kind of like Christian fundies.
03-27-2006, 08:10 PM
Most hippies aren't liberals, they are non-partisan posersOriginally Posted by The Experiment
I remember hippies in college who had to have a Nalgene water bottle. You were only cool if you had the latest Phish tapes, etc. Nice life
03-27-2006, 08:16 PM
sorry.... maybe i shouldnt call hippies democrats.....i hang out with kwyche too much and hippies is his favorite term....
im more of a libertarian also though
03-28-2006, 08:14 PM
I'm more of a Republican, but not the Pat Robertson kind, and I'm happy as hell. Just give me iron, football, chicken, oats, sprouted bread, natty PB and I'll remain happy
03-28-2006, 08:38 PM
sprouted bread? what is that?? im happy too!!!!! except for a small financial distress at the moment, but other than that.....im good
03-28-2006, 09:43 PM
The trader joe's multi-grain bread (I use this or oats, or broccoli for carbs). Chop up 1 chicken breast, add fat free mozzarella to the bread, spread a little bit of light cream cheese and enjoyOriginally Posted by Mrs. Gimpy!
03-28-2006, 10:04 PM
Yeah, that's my fault...I call everyone I dislike hippies (because I think hippies were the demise of the once great america ).Originally Posted by Mrs. Gimpy!
I'm a libertarian pretty much to the core, and I find way more *****ing on the left than the right. *****ing is usually a sign of unhappiness, IMO.
Doesn't mean that "all" lefties are unhappy, hell, the poll says 31% are "very happy". Just that I do agree there is a higher occurence of unhappiness in the lefties.
03-28-2006, 11:51 PM
I think in general, the more extreme the mindset that has ideaologies that are completely unrealistic will be unhappy due to the fact that the world will never be the way they want it.
This can apply to any end of the spectrum but currently since the right holds sway, the left..most notably the far far left are less happy. We saw the opposite during the Clinton years with ultra conservatives.
Now we have movies by the Wachoski brothers like Matrix or V for Vendetta that express the distrust liberals have for the govt and the potential for autocracy. It struck me the other day that during the Clinton years you had ultra conservatives who were very distrustful of the govt then and lots of murmurs about keeping and bearing arms to protect one's self from the socialist gubbermint...now it is the direct opposite which is kinda funny.
03-29-2006, 08:14 PM
I don't agree with much of the my leftist brothers and sisters. I believe in common sense and reading before making conclusions. Many liberals don't sadly. I went to my schools Democrat chapter and tried to argue my points but most were content with saying little else other than variations of "Bush Lied, people died."
Its true, Bush lied and indeed people died, but we need to think of ways to improve the situation and think of new ideas. Nobody wanted that. Some said they wanted Bush to be accountable and thats it. I said that wouldn't automatically undo Iraq, Patriot Act, and all other other measures. It fell on deaf ears.
I thought about returning and making a stronger case. I don't know why I'm explaining my points here instead of at those meetings. Nothing against you all, I'm just saying Democrats need a direction.
I think the Leftist-Libertarian stance is the best way for the party to move and grow. I'm against gun control for instance. I don't see that as a favor to right wing issue, I just think its pointless to spend billions on a program that bears little fruit. I think the problem is that gangs use it and most gang members are teenagers with nothing better to do. So a rec facility for example could actually provide better results than gun control and cost less money. Thats how I think of things.
03-29-2006, 09:06 PM
Here's an interesting fact. And I do mean FACT, as I have observed and experienced it personally (at least 5 times I can recall specifically).
If I enter a political conversation/debate, and take a conservative side, agree with the president (which I do on some things and do NOT on others), or espouse an opinion that is decidedly NOT liberal, the liberal(s) in the conversation will invariably spit utter disgust and venomous hatred towards me, even if they are my friends (and for the record, these conversations are almost always with friends or acquaintences).
On the other hand, the times I have taken a liberal view in the midst of conservatives, I have encountered some serious debate and opposition to be sure, yet I have never felt that these people have lost all respect for me, hate me, or never want to talk to me again.
This is merely my own observation, of course, but it does seem to be consistently true, unfortunately...
03-29-2006, 09:21 PM
ive had the same observations. my best friend is black and is one of the most "venomous hatred " filled arguers, i've ever debated with. i love her to death but someone needs to help her.....
my other best friend is mexican and is a liberal conservative, she is very reasonable in her arguments.......
i've had talks about issues like this with others but i talk to my best friends the most and notice the difference clearly in them and others
03-30-2006, 09:41 AM
Milwood.. i agree.. i am happy to say not really on this board have i dealt with this... mostly the regular commenters have something not in common with the normal everyday liberal... our people are educated in the ways of debate and understanding.
Most of the active liberals soap box with information that is made up.. and in their created reality it exsists. They take their reality and try to jam it down peoples mouths.. when they meet educated minds whom wont accept it.. they freak out and turn to off color, name calling, etc.. the true sign of one who cannot win a debate because they are wrong. Reminds me of my T-shirt Diversity its the Law.. anyway...
Some on the left, not many, say that bush lied.. and needs to be heald accountable. This issue is dead and is only used in the mouths of those that hear only what they want to hear. The famous liberal second reality... If Bush lied.. then every single person who had anything to do with our findings on Iraq.. those in russia, france, england, etc etc lied too. Even house democrates that are in-charge of finding out such information thought it was credible. If anyone needs to take accountability of their actions, it are those liberals. And all those nations and democrats that were on the list that took money from saddam in the UN oil for food program... But.. the deomocratic party ( as well as the republicans) are known for creating scandle to get back to power... the difference.. when a republican does something, then takes it to account.. they must step down... when a liberal does it.. he/she becomes a god. The most well known and popular liberals are all failures.. IE Jimmy Carter. And in many ways, Bill Clinton. I know adding bill to that is a no no.. cause he is the liberal wet dream.. but Monica Lewinsky saved Bill Clinton's presidency (in one way), and Florida 2000 saved his legacy... but thats for another thread.
Democrats are the only people on the left that have a hope to take control of this nation. Leftists, France worshiping Kennedy's Kerry's etc will never be accepted by the American people because they back a failed idea... Their Idea is france.. and france today, right in front of our eyes we see evidence wherever we want to look in the world that socialism doesn't work, that big-governmentism doesn't work, that all the derivatives of communism don't work.
NOTE: liberals are not democrats. Republicans are not conservatives. in my head they are 4 seperate things etc etc
03-30-2006, 12:16 PM
Originally Posted by MaynardMeek
i can not stand that! i dont understand how perfectly intelligent, logical people can have a completely irrational, nonsensical ideal.
Do they not see the unemployment rates of the European countries?? America's unemployment rate is lower than many of those "ideal" european countries ! what is there not to see about that???
okay...so in america we have to pay more for our health care....big deal..... we have the best health care in the world and dont have to wait for months like other socialist countries to get needed medical services.... and u end up paying more for healthcare through those freakin taxs than you would if u paid for it the american way.....
what is that mr. liberal.... u want the gas price to be 5.45 US/a gallon (france)....or wait maybe England for $5.79 (england)
yeah doesnt sound like a freakin picnic over there.....theres a reason why america is the best.......
now, i'll get off my soap box.....
03-30-2006, 07:55 PM
I'm always happy ... I don't know where I fall in terms of politics... because I am extremely liberal... and right wing at the same time.
And don't hate on England! They dont have to drive as far... so who cares how high gas is...
You can walk across England in like a day... It's smaller than Kansas
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