Cops on Steroids
- 12-15-2005, 12:01 PM
- 12-15-2005, 12:30 PM
Originally Posted by Brennon
Did I not understand correctly or are you saying that it is cool that that dad smokes stolen weed. And its cool that he still has some mental function.
12-15-2005, 12:58 PM
i think it is cool that a cop steals marijuana from the evidence room and does not distribute it amongst the criminal population for redistribution (selling) but shares it with his fellow cops who want to partake.
marijuana is better than alcohol, and certainly tobacco in the form and way it is taken in the U.S. marijuana is capable of many things. it's all about expectation and mentality and the effects in the user. i've heard people say "potheads don't do anything" and "weed makes you lazy" and "marijuana makes you weak".. but if that is so than how do those janjaweed child militias do what they do? what about the phillipines? i've heard from others in my own life how they've done things under cannabis consciousness that they normally wouldn't, very athletic things. it is good for some things, even psychotherapy.
and steroids? obviously not all drugs are the same, and not all have to be abused. demonizing steroids is stoopid. i'd rather have the older cops on the force taking effective steroids safely, improving their capacity to protect and serve the people, than having them old and creaky and weaker. testosterone can make us smarter, increase our ability to concentrate. i read from "men's health" how men who had acne problems in their adolescence actually had a significantly reduced risk of heart problems later in life. too many androgens can cause problems, a deficiency can cause problems. if an old cop, or low/low-normal cop were on steroid/horomone therapy i would feel better about their ability to think and perform on the job.
this is not the "integrity" of professional sports leagues, people. this is about the capacity to protect and serve, to PROTECT. abstemious use, guided by their buddies and even doctors, or at least guys who know their ****, like on forums like this. unquestion obedience to a law that does not make sense in the larger picture is just playing it safe, for oneself. but that's not how things are in the real world.
cops are not professional athletes. i personally would prefer to see two leagues for a sport, one natural (grade "B") and one.. anything goes (juiced to the gills (when they make gills possible in humans)). cops serve the people. i would prefer mine not stressed on too much coffee, and not angry and aggressive on steroids. but guess what? **** happens. if it were okay for them within the force than they could seek advice and guidance more easily. not an old boy network, just common sense, for the safety of the community.
i've smoked pot and never hurt anyone over it. the only person i hurt was myself, because it is so expensive, making smoking the only economical method of administration. it is because of the laws that make it ia controlled substance, and therefore expensive, that necessitate it's use in an unhealthy method. this is how the law has failed. drug laws are not fair, nor wise, when taken to the level of an individual user. the reason for this has already been written. that's just the way things are, because too many irresponsible drug users/abusers have ruined it for everyone else.
some people deserve that freedom. i have written of this in a very public place on the internet and to this day no cops have tried to arrest me. it may be becuase it is a misdemeanor, or just that they don't care enough.. but i am aware, from other things, that my local law enforcement is aware of some of my other illegal predilections.. i think they have not bothered with me because, from my writing as a whole, they understand that i am definently NOT one of the problems in this society.
it's sad that we have to hide our stashes, whatever they may be. it is especially sad that a law enforcement officer would have to hide steroids, even from their own co-workers, even though, in the big picture, as long as they were used wisely, they could mean the difference between life or death for someone else.
12-15-2005, 01:21 PM
I don't think it is "cool" that a police officer steals anything, especially drugs from the property room. I wont argue that marijuana is probably safer than all the other drugs, alcohol included. But it is illegal. Would I bust someone for having a joint? maybe yes, maybe no. Their attitude would probably be the deciding factor. If the person had a large quantity and was dealing, I'd have to arrest him. If you want the laws changed, you should vote for politicians that harbor your views. A police Officer doesn't make laws, we enforce them. Like I said earlier, quantity and attitude will have alot to do with how the situation turns out. If the joint were to get smashed into the ground and there was not enough left to identify, well, I guess I'd let them walk. I would really like to push my physical training along with the right steroid stack, but I wont do it. Make them legal, I'd be one of the first in line.Originally Posted by Gokmog
12-15-2005, 01:45 PM
So on one hand you would bust someone for a joint "maybe yes maybe no" but on the other hand you don't make the laws you just enforce them? You say you use discretion, then later you say you just "enforce the law," which is it?
Police don't protect my freedoms here, they infringe upon them. I don't feel any safer with arrogant *******s armed with guns. More legislation and reliance upon police has only decreased the average american's freedom and ability to defend him or herself. People fear retribution if they shoot an intruder. Apparently we do live in different worlds, perhaps the police force is radically different where you live, but here, due to a lack of violent crime, the cops here are not "trying to make a difference" they are often power-hungry jerks.
You overvalue the police force's contribution to society severely. Rapes etc stopped in progress probably happen just as often as police brutality, you can't really think that a lot crimes of passion can be stopped, can you?.
I see deaths from psychotic *******s arresting someone for an open container, I see a kindergartner and a grandmother being tasered, I see a man being beaten with flashlights on national TV by a group of police. This is what I see, and I don't see many positive things occuring as a result of their presence where I live.
Authority (especially when given to those actively seeking it) spawns corruption and abuse, I take a minimalistic approach when it comes to government and authority in general. I also believe they are given FAR too much credit. Seems like everyone is heavy believer in Leviathan these days.
Do you think prohibition was a good idea? Outlawing alcohol really decreased society's problems. I'm willing to bet if the legislation against drugs was removed the crime rate would plummet. Just like with gun control laws, the people who want drugs will obtain them regardless if they are legal or not. Wouldn't your job be much safer if you didn't have to deal with the crimes associated with drug dealers?
And BTW, I've never been arrested for drugs, and only had one speeding ticket, so drop the vendetta thing.
12-15-2005, 01:47 PM
12-15-2005, 01:56 PM
You're an idoit......Originally Posted by brogers
It was probably wrong for delta to say maybe he would and maybe he wouldnt....i dont think he would actually let someone off the hook with schedule 1 substances.....he was just trying to calm you down.
But when one of these cops does make an error I am always the first to point it out. And I address my complaint to that cop, not cops in general. Hitler was a human being, and so are you. I could say you are a heartless murdering bastard just because you are a human. (thats the kind of generalization you are giving cops.)
There is no room for any kind of corruption in law enforcement period. Do you know how many THOUSANDS of cops there are in our county at one time. The amount of errors per capita among police is an amount so small that we need not worry.
12-15-2005, 02:30 PM
I said that there are times when it is left up to the officer as to what chain of events will happen. That is where attitude comes in to play. I do enforce the law. With discretion. We do have a certain amount of leway that is available.
Whether you want police protection or not, you are getting it. You are also paying for it.
I doubt anything I say will change your mind about police, so I'm not going to try. Hopefully you will never need the police, but if you do, I hope it is someone like me that gets the call who will treat you courteously and with respect, even though you hate us. Have a good day and please drive safely!
12-15-2005, 02:32 PM
12-15-2005, 05:30 PM
Stop wasting your time, you won't change his mind. He is too ignorant and dumb to even hear what you and other people say.Originally Posted by delta314
12-15-2005, 06:12 PM
You mean that the police force isn't all degenerates and *******s hired by the man in the big black helicopter to make my life hell?Originally Posted by DmitryWI
Never have my family members, my friends, or myself been unjustly harrassed by cops. Given his statement you'd think I'd have to know someone who experienced the same thing.
12-15-2005, 06:23 PM
See, I didn't know about that, they were hiding the truth from me, now I hate copsOriginally Posted by kwyckemynd00
Due to my job I deal with cops all the time and I was treated with nothing but respect. You know why, Brogers? Because I don't do drugs, like some people
12-16-2005, 03:04 AM
12-16-2005, 11:53 AM
12-16-2005, 02:18 PM
Do you pay taxes? I'm sure you do. Do me this one favor then. On the 7th and 21st of each month think of me as I'm cashing a paycheck you helped provide. You may hate me(police) but I am reality. Ha
12-16-2005, 02:53 PM
I didn't mean AAS, I meant drugs that **** your brain and your life and life of many others.Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
12-16-2005, 07:28 PM
12-16-2005, 07:58 PM
12-16-2005, 08:08 PM
12-16-2005, 08:12 PM
12-16-2005, 08:16 PM
GAAAAAWDDDDDDDDDDAMMMNIT Cuffs!Originally Posted by Cuffs
I didn't take you seriously then I woke up this morning after having "anal probe dreams" by strange lookin men in blue suits (oooh...they were horrible ) and then as I did went to do the three S's (****, shower, shave) I only got half way through number one and guess what happened? What I thought was a fit of constipation ended up being a taser shoved up my ass....
Be assured, I'll never speak in a derrogatory manner against the "man" again, because he'll literally "make your ass sorry"
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