tax on those under 18
- 10-13-2005, 12:23 AM
tax on those under 18
Background- So im chillin with some of my boys in my local SubWay and I order a foot long tuna for 4.99. I have exactly 5 bucks, so I figure im ok. It comes to 5 and change. First off, I thought there was no tax on food, second....
I was thinking...
Since those of us under 18 cant vote, we shouldnt have to pay taxes, including sales tax. Why? We can't vote for our leaders, and that is taxation with out representation.
- 10-13-2005, 12:42 AM
yea i completely agree...our govt is very screwy when it comes to age. I mean you can go to war and drive multimillion dollar tanks when your 18....you can own a house at 18.... your legally an adult at 18 ..yet you cant go to the bar and get a beer or gamble your hard earned money lol.
10-13-2005, 12:48 AM
I think the no tax only applies to certain staple foods like veggies and meat, not fast food. And I agree, I could get shipped off to Iraq if we had the draft, but it's like the world is coming to an end if I want to get into a bar.Originally Posted by davisville64
10-13-2005, 12:59 AM
10-13-2005, 01:20 AM
10-13-2005, 02:00 AM
My congressman is a ***Originally Posted by natedogg
I wrote him about DHEA- no responce
Wrote him about the steroid controll act- got wicked gay responce that was sent to me like 2 mins after I emailed him so it was obvioulsy computer generated and didnt talk about crap but how it was going to "protect america"
10-13-2005, 10:53 AM
what kind of system would that be? no tax under 18? wtf?
parents would have their sons/daughter buying everything in freakin sight. no one over 18 would buy anything.
and places of business that make the food there have tax, due to the person who just made your sandwich.
no tax under 18... haha
10-13-2005, 11:07 AM
You're not just paying for the food, but the service of the store. Sandwich doesn't make itself in other words. The government is very screwy with age. However, sales tax is the best of taxes, which is to say the not so bad as all others. It's harder to hide costs when they're translated into a sales tax, which is one of the major reasons there is no federal sales tax.
10-13-2005, 11:17 AM
Originally Posted by Pioneer
I'm glad you find it funny. What if you were in the possition of our 4 fathers, paying tax w/no rep. in government. Isn't that one of the major reasons we fought for our independance?
10-13-2005, 09:34 PM
Taxation of someone of a younger age avoids a free rider issue. A sales tax is a very easy way to limit a free rider problem.
10-13-2005, 09:47 PM
dude, i was under 18 once in my life also dont think i dont know what its like.Originally Posted by davisville64
and i dont want to get into a big political talk about this but currently you living under your parents and they technically represent you. they cast your vote. there is representation.
but this is still funny, youre talking like your rights are being violated in some way. everyone goes through this, youre not the only one.
10-13-2005, 10:33 PM
10-13-2005, 11:19 PM
Davisville, screw those guys I agree. And if you are under 18 years old shouldn't PAY taxes on income either
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10-13-2005, 11:49 PM
10-14-2005, 02:39 PM
Good lord, to think that @ 15 I was livin on my own, had 2 jobs, rent, utilities, a car ( I was the only one who drove to 9th grade), insurance, doctor bills, and taxes.
Now @ 17, you are worried about tax at freakin Subway...your joking right? Oh and the steroid control act should really be a pressing issue for someone your age...hmmm and he gave you awhat a big surprise. I wonder why steroids get sucha a bad rap?wicked gay responce
Geeze, now go play your nintendo.
10-14-2005, 02:44 PM
Not to mention, a lot of 17 year olds are a drain on our economy. We need to pay for your schools, and no your subway tax doesn't pay for that. The 2200.00 I just mailed off this morning for property taxes does. We need to pay for grafitti removal, not saying you in peticular but most vandalism is done by kids, we need to pay for a lot of stuff that is for the Kids, like you.
So anyways thanks for pitching in your .56 CENTS. I for one really apreciate it.
10-14-2005, 05:58 PM
Right on. My wife was emancipated at 14 and was living on her own with a child while working and eventually went on to get her degree in pre-med. Strong woman.Originally Posted by refrieddreams
10-14-2005, 06:22 PM
10-14-2005, 07:59 PM
This is neither a democracy or a republic, it's a facist oligarchy, the corporate control of the public in a few hundred hands.
The two party/one choice of big government system won't change until economic turmoil, tax revolt or armed insurrection hits hard, the second choice is the easiest and least likely. I love talking politics, but I've wised up,this business savvy and politically retarded nation of fear has forced me and my kind undercover.
I just probably killed this thread, I often do, rock on.
10-14-2005, 09:24 PM
10-14-2005, 09:47 PM
10-14-2005, 09:49 PM
The gov't isn't charging YOU sales tax. Its charging the business owner. The business owner carries the cost over to you.Originally Posted by davisville64
HOWEVER, for workers under 18 you shouldn't have to lose any money from your paycheck because the gov't says so, considering you don't have many citizen rights.
10-15-2005, 06:04 PM
First off, your taking this way too personal.Originally Posted by refrieddreams
Second, I know I have it a lot easier than a lot of other people. But what does you living on your own at 15 have anything to do with taxation w/o representation.
3- What does the steroid controll act have to do with me? Well what do special needs kids have to do with me? Nothing. I still support kids at school with disabuilites in an after school exercise program. Just because it doesnt harm me directly doesnt mean I cant have input. And because I have to pay taxes, I should be able to have a say
4- I never told the guy I wrote to my age, because that doesn't matter. The responce I got was almost the SAME EXACT responce my unlce (a steroid user) wrote. I can then say that it was computer generated and I'm willing to bet he didnt even read it.
10-15-2005, 06:05 PM
Yeah, refried used a very poor analogy. Its a principal matter not a comparison between two situations.
10-15-2005, 06:11 PM
Im proud to be an american too, one of the reasons why is because I have the right to protest. This thread is just that, its not an attack on anyone like some of us are taking it...Originally Posted by refrieddreams
10-15-2005, 06:12 PM
NiceOriginally Posted by refrieddreams
How about we increase the tax on blacks because they flood the prison systems while were at it?
10-16-2005, 06:30 PM
10-17-2005, 03:21 PM
OK sorry...Originally Posted by davisville64
I was just amazed that this is what you are worried about, I mean come on this is your reality? At your age, you should have a bit more weighing issues IMO.Originally Posted by davisville64
Of course you have a say, and what taxes are you paying? Sales tax on a sandwich?Originally Posted by davisville64
Are you surprised? You think he sits around all day reading emails from drug users, and high school kids? God I hope not...Originally Posted by davisville64
10-17-2005, 03:23 PM
10-17-2005, 03:25 PM
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