Animal rights people out of controll

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  1. Animal rights people out of controll


    my aunt emailed me this link...


    http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/video....=wm&speed=_med



    Now could they kill the animals a little more humainly? Probably

    But, when my aunt started to tell me how horrified she was, I told her of a horror that I have. Somewhere in a 3rd world country, lets say Nigeria, there is a little kid starving. He hasn't seen a full meal in months, if not years. If we shut down all these slaughter houses, there will be even LESS food to go around this country, and almost none to go to nigeria. But as long as Mrs piggy doesnt get hurt, its ok.

    My aunt is the kind of person that would save a cat she didnt even know from a burning building before she got a baby out of its crib, and yes I am serious when I say this.


  2. I know a lot a freaks like that also. I think they have some mental problems. seriously!
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  3. They'd rather have us starve and eat soy all day long??

    Why not concern yourself with some real issues - or are the economy, healthcare, and war not important enough???

    BP

  4. now I'm hungry.
  5. PETA


    7 Things You Didn't Know About PETA

    1) PETA president and co-founder Ingrid Newkirk has described her group’s overall goal as “total animal liberation.? This means no meat, no milk, no zoos, no circuses, no wool, no leather, no hunting, no fishing, and no pets (not even seeing-eye dogs). PETA is also against all medical research that requires the use of animals.

    2) Despite its constant moralizing about the “unethical? treatment of animals by restaurant owners, grocers, farmers, scientists, anglers, and countless other Americans, PETA has killed over 10,000 dogs and cats at its Norfolk, Virginia headquarters. During 2003, PETA put to death over 85 percent of the animals it collected from members of the public.

    3) PETA has given tens of thousands of dollars to convicted arsonists and other violent criminals. This includes a 2001 donation of $1,500 to the North American Earth Liberation Front (ELF), an FBI-certified “domestic terrorist? group responsible for dozens of firebombs and death threats. During the 1990s, PETA paid $70,200 to an Animal Liberation Front (ALF) activist convicted of burning down a Michigan State University research laboratory. In his sentencing recommendation, a federal prosecutor implicated PETA president Ingrid Newkirk in that crime. And PETA vegetarian campaign coordinator Bruce Friedrich told an animal rights convention in 2001 that “blowing stuff up and smashing windows? is “a great way to bring about animal liberation.?

    4) PETA activists regularly target children as young as six years old with anti-meat and anti-milk propaganda, often waiting outside their schools to intercept them as they walk to and from class-without notifying parents. One piece of kid-targeted PETA literature tells small children: “Your Mommy Kills Animals!? PETA brags that its messages reach over 2 million children every year, including thousands reached by e-mail without the permission of their parents. One PETA vice president told the Fox News Channel’s audience: “Our campaigns are always geared towards children, and they always will be.?

    5) PETA has used a related organization, the PETA Foundation, to fund the misnamed Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM), a deceptive animal rights group that promotes itself as an unbiased source of medical and nutritional information. PCRM's president also serves as president of the PETA Foundation.

    6) PETA runs campaigns seemingly calculated to offend religious believers. One entire PETA website is devoted to the claim-despite ample evidence to the contrary-that Jesus Christ was a vegetarian. PETA holds protests at houses of worship, even suing one church that tried to protect its members from Sunday-morning harassment. Its billboards taunt Christians with the message that hogs “died for their sins.? PETA insists, contrary to centuries of rabbinical teaching, that the Jewish ritual of kosher slaughter shouldn't be allowed. And its infamous “Holocaust on Your Plate? campaign crassly compares the Jewish victims of Nazi genocide with farm animals. 7) PETA has repeatedly attacked research foundations like the March of Dimes, the Pediatric AIDS Foundation, and the American Cancer Society, because they support animal-based research that might uncover cures for birth defects and life-threatening diseases. PETA president Ingrid Newkirk has said that “even if animal research resulted in a cure for AIDS, we would be against it.?


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  6. PETA - "People for the Eating of Tasty Animals"

  7. Yeah, whenever I hear someone is a member of PETA, I suddenly can't stand them or anything they are involved in.

    For example, I can't stand The Pretenders now that I know Chrissy Hynde is an active member of PETA.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by FOCUS
    7 Things You Didn't Know About PETA

    4) PETA activists regularly target children as young as six years old with anti-meat and anti-milk propaganda, often waiting outside their schools to intercept them as they walk to and from class-without notifying parents. One piece of kid-targeted PETA literature tells small children: “Your Mommy Kills Animals!? PETA brags that its messages reach over 2 million children every year, including thousands reached by e-mail without the permission of their parents. One PETA vice president told the Fox News Channel’s audience: “Our campaigns are always geared towards children, and they always will be.?

    6) PETA runs campaigns seemingly calculated to offend religious believers. One entire PETA website is devoted to the claim-despite ample evidence to the contrary-that Jesus Christ was a vegetarian. PETA holds protests at houses of worship, even suing one church that tried to protect its members from Sunday-morning harassment. Its billboards taunt Christians with the message that hogs “died for their sins.? PETA insists, contrary to centuries of rabbinical teaching, that the Jewish ritual of kosher slaughter shouldn't be allowed. And its infamous “Holocaust on Your Plate? campaign crassly compares the Jewish victims of Nazi genocide with farm animals. 7) PETA has repeatedly attacked research foundations like the March of Dimes, the Pediatric AIDS Foundation, and the American Cancer Society, because they support animal-based research that might uncover cures for birth defects and life-threatening diseases. PETA president Ingrid Newkirk has said that “even if animal research resulted in a cure for AIDS, we would be against it.?


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    A) If I ever see a peta member outside my school, hes getting kicked in the nads

    B) If I see one outside my church he will be sacrafised along with a goat (the goats only for the irony of the situation)

  9. PETA loves abortion
    PETA loves sheep
    PETA hates babies

    PETA is just a lousy 'spokesman' for animal rights - they do more harm than good to themselves. They are so far from the mainstream they aren't even taken seriously.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by Jeff
    PETA - "People for the Eating of Tasty Animals"
    Which would the people of peta rather see, Alec Baldwin(a peta spokesman) being eaten by a tiger, or a dead tiger being eaten by Alec Baldwin?

  11. Unfortunately, the raising of slaughter animals is pretty brutal. But if farmers raised them humanely, that steak dinner from applebees would be $100 instead of $20. It is a sad fact of life.

    But inhumane cosmetics testing is another story. Torturing animals so that women don't cry when some mascera gets in their eye is wrong. I sincerely believe that death row inmates should be used for clinical/cosmetics testing instead of animals. When you commit murder/rape/etc you basically agree to waive your rights. Plus it would lower the prison budget and I'll bet decrease violent crimes as well. But prisoner rights is another topic.

    remember, we're all animals here on earth, and all feel the same pain. So is meat slaughter wrong? Not in my mind, it is a necessary evil. But cosmetics and clinical testing with no thought to the animal's pain is wrong.

  12. Good post hypo

  13. Quote Originally Posted by hypo
    Unfortunately, the raising of slaughter animals is pretty brutal. But if farmers raised them humanely, that steak dinner from applebees would be $100 instead of $20. It is a sad fact of life.

    But inhumane cosmetics testing is another story. Torturing animals so that women don't cry when some mascera gets in their eye is wrong. I sincerely believe that death row inmates should be used for clinical/cosmetics testing instead of animals. When you commit murder/rape/etc you basically agree to waive your rights. Plus it would lower the prison budget and I'll bet decrease violent crimes as well. But prisoner rights is another topic.

    remember, we're all animals here on earth, and all feel the same pain. So is meat slaughter wrong? Not in my mind, it is a necessary evil. But cosmetics and clinical testing with no thought to the animal's pain is wrong.


    I agree, they shouldnt be tested with cosmetics. They should, however, be tested in clinical studies.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by hypo
    Unfortunately, the raising of slaughter animals is pretty brutal. But if farmers raised them humanely, that steak dinner from applebees would be $100 instead of $20. It is a sad fact of life.

    But inhumane cosmetics testing is another story. Torturing animals so that women don't cry when some mascera gets in their eye is wrong. I sincerely believe that death row inmates should be used for clinical/cosmetics testing instead of animals. When you commit murder/rape/etc you basically agree to waive your rights. Plus it would lower the prison budget and I'll bet decrease violent crimes as well. But prisoner rights is another topic.

    remember, we're all animals here on earth, and all feel the same pain. So is meat slaughter wrong? Not in my mind, it is a necessary evil. But cosmetics and clinical testing with no thought to the animal's pain is wrong.
    I disagree abotu the clinical testing.

    As for cosmetics, they have to be tested. If you aren't goign to test on animals who are you going to test on, humans? I think not.

    What they CAN do however is require more extensive in vitro tests for cosmetics before permitting companies to do animal testing. Clinical drug testing however already requires a lot of in vitro stuff before it can be approved for animal testing. As for humaneness of clinical drug testing, in most cases it can't be humane. It involves inflicting diseases on animals and then subjecting them to experimental treatment. Sorry but that's just how it works. Plus afterwards the animals have to be put to death anyway because they have to study all tissues in the animal which can only be done once it's dead.

  15. I just don't know where they get these vids....I've grown up around farmland, and that's just not how its done at any farm i've ever seen.

    Anyway, necessary evil, yes. Video still makes me sick though.

    Hypocrisy of PETA makes me even more sick though.

    Deo brought up a good point, PETA = for abortion, however i can guarantee that if we were to start aborting animal X of their children, they would throw a fit.

    (I'm pro choice, BTW, so long as you're not deciding to get rid of the kid after he's got a brain....I mean, don't mean to go O/T, but WTF is up with people deciding to have late term abortions?)

  16. "As for cosmetics, they have to be tested. If you aren't goign to test on animals who are you going to test on, humans? I think not."

    Sure, why not? Cosmetics are NOT necessary like medicine and food and don't benefit the human race one iota. Cosmetics companies should pay volunteer humans to test their products, but they are interested in making as much money as they can, and you don't have to pay stray cats and dogs.

    I do however support your in vitro comment, they should test more before animal/human studies. But again, it all boils down to the profit. It's cheaper to just spray the **** in a cat's eyes and watch how long it twitches than to pay scientists to develop further.

  17. I think it is funny how it is "Pro-Choice" not "Pro-Abortion" because pro-abortion sounds bad.

  18. It is pro choice just because you think that it a woman's right to be able to choice does not mean that you think that abortion is right..

  19. You can kind of relate this to survival of the fittest... kinda

    We humans are equiped with farms to kill animals and get food to MAKE OUR SPECIES SURVIVE (hence, survival of the fittest). The more the population grows, the more food we need. The animals we eat didn't adapt enough to protect themselves, and to the victor go the spoils (just dont spoil my milk )

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Matthew D
    It is pro choice just because you think that it a woman's right to be able to choice does not mean that you think that abortion is right..
    Bingo...I'm vehemontly against abortion after the first 3-4 months, but if you find out your pregnant and decide you cannot have / do not want to have a child, then abort the pregnancy before the poor kid developes feelings...I believe within 5-6 months they start to dream...makes me sick if you kill them after that--there are exceptions, IMHO, in late term, but not many....

    </off topic>

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Matthew D
    It is pro choice just because you think that it a woman's right to be able to choice does not mean that you think that abortion is right..
    Why does the media always say "Anti-Abortion" instead of "Pro-Life?"

    /karp

  22. Quote Originally Posted by jrkarp
    Why does the media always say "Anti-Abortion" instead of "Pro-Life?"

    /karp
    Because the "pro-life" movement is also for capital punishment which means they are NOT pro-life.

    Personally I'm pro-death. I think it is a double standard that a fetus is considered alive after the second trimester, yet the start of life is always listed as being at birth. When someone says they have lived 20 years, they are talking about from the day they were born. So personally IMO, abortion should be legal right up until the day before the kid is born, otherwise it really doesn't fit.

    I'm also pro death penalty though I think they shouldn't use lethal injection, they should just take a pipe to the inmate's head or something equally inexpensive.

  23. True, "Pro-Life" means "Pro Innocent Life," but that's not as catchy as "Pro-Life."

    When I mention the day I was born, I don't mean it as a measure of how long I've been alive, I mention it as a measure of how long it's been since I was born. I've never seen the date of birth listed as the the beginning of life; I have always seen it listed as the date of birth. Since we all know our birthdays and few of us know the day on which we were conceived, it's certainly a more convenient date to use as a reference.

    /karp

  24. All lives are listed from date of birth to date of death. They NEVER EVER list date of conception, or date of second trimester, or whatever. People say "I began my life..." and are referring to the day they were BORN.

    Hence, abortion should be legal up until the day before they are born.


    Actually, it would be even better if abortion were legal up until the first 3 years. I've seen some really worthless kids, and if I had one as screwed up as any of these, I'd want it recalled.
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