new hormone they are makin sched 3 steroid
- 06-12-2005, 11:59 AM
- 06-12-2005, 12:19 PM
- 06-12-2005, 01:07 PM
Its not a new hormone, it's been around for a long time. Either way, it shouldn't be getting banned. Screw that.
06-12-2005, 01:27 PM
06-12-2005, 01:40 PM
06-12-2005, 01:49 PM
It's VERY useful. You don't know what you're talking about. I can't believe this ****. This is ****ing ridiculous....there's gonna be a helluva alotta older people pissed off from this...including my father...and you don't wanna piss that man off lemme tell ya!!
06-12-2005, 01:58 PM
WOAH BUDDY. calm down. I ment its not useful for a young person trying to gain muscle... Sure i bet it helps some old men...
What i was saying is that its not useful for building muscle so there is no lawfull reason to ban it.
06-12-2005, 02:04 PM
Bro I wasn't talking down to ya, I just meant that if you knew what you were talking about you wouldn't have said that it's useless....didn't mean it to come out that way.
I see what you mean now, but I've had great results from using it during PCT as did some others. Also, DHEA will help you build muscle due to its partioning effects, helping with cortisol, helping with mood, and reducing fat storeage to name a few. Maybe not directly, but indirectly it does have some great benefits.
06-12-2005, 02:08 PM
I have read that is should not be used durring PCT because it could cause further supression to the HPTA?
06-12-2005, 02:13 PM
WOW will all the **** going on in the world right now there are people in congress trying to make DHEA illegal. hahah what a frigging joke. Ya lets lock up all the 50+ men taking DHEA. Makes me sick.
06-12-2005, 02:29 PM
You know I would have to agree with everyone, shouldnt congress be worrying about more important things. I personally dont think it will be added, does congress even know what DHEA does? Other then it has something to do with testosterone.
06-12-2005, 03:19 PM
DO a search on the forum... Just the other day i think LakeMountD posted a thread with a study showing it will not supress you.Originally Posted by AgnosticFront
06-12-2005, 03:27 PM
06-12-2005, 05:56 PM
This is getting out of hand. Why would they wan't to piss off another segment of the voting population. This won't even protect any teenagers
06-12-2005, 06:00 PM
JESUS CHRIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Cant our government do something useful for once and like....oh I dont know arrest a child molester or something. Jesus I cant believe they are going to waste the paper to write this stupid ass bill on.
Originally Posted by Iron Warrior
06-12-2005, 06:21 PM
06-12-2005, 06:54 PM
My guess would be the most informed person in congress couldn't indentify the chemical structure of a sex hormone if they saw a diagram of it, much less tell you it's basic functions in the body. Why would they ban it? Because they can. It's that simple. They create crime and then arrest people and brag about their efforts in stopping crime and get reelected. Few if any people really give a **** whether or not what was criminalized needed to be the subject of legal restrictions. Half the idiots out there, some doctors even, think creatine is a steroid.Originally Posted by punta
06-12-2005, 07:06 PM
06-12-2005, 07:14 PM
E-mail and write your senators and congressmen. It seems that LEF is already in on this one to stand up and be heard. I know it seems to be a useless waste of time. But people spoke out enough against prohibition and overturned that idiocy as well.
I spoke out recently in several mainstream book and mag interviews including Men's Fitness and Will Carrol's new book Juice. (I hate to do interviews) I would appreciate some support, if possible, from each of the lads here. Realize that fact that if DHEA is banned without notice then creatine and protein will soon follow. Doubt that? Look at the supplement ban history for Italy, Australia and Canada.
You only need to be 18 to kill yourself with cigarettes and 21 for alcohol. But you go to prison for improving your body and mind. Sad times we are slipping quitely into. Very sad.
06-12-2005, 07:23 PM
Uh yeah hello.... Tobacco and Alcohol industry is where the goverment gets most of its money. They are the 2 biggest chains on which government makes its money from taxes on in the US. sad, but trueOriginally Posted by Author L. Rea
06-12-2005, 07:34 PM
So true.You only need to be 18 to kill yourself with cigarettes and 21 for alcohol. But you go to prison for improving your body and mind. Sad times we are slipping quitely into. Very sad.
06-12-2005, 07:46 PM
Don't worry next up the governments will ban vitamins. Wasn't there some swimmer who flagged a drug test and blamed it all on his multi vitamin? What will they come up with next?
06-12-2005, 07:50 PM
06-12-2005, 09:41 PM
06-12-2005, 10:10 PM
Aren't they really teaching us not to respect the law? I mean, there's no reason I know of for DHEA to be considered dangerous, and they still have to stick their nose in it. I'm a "law and order" type of guy, but come on, this is ridiculous!
06-13-2005, 02:33 PM
If they ban anything like vitamins, protein, creatine, etc., you can expect to see me in Canada. Not just so I can have access to the "drugs", but because a system that bans stuff like that is messed up.Originally Posted by BoxingFool01
06-13-2005, 02:42 PM
This is slightly off topic, but it got me thinking. I am probably just some 17 year old that doesnt know much about the world, but...
How does the DEA justify making ANY drug illigal? I could see smoking because of second hand smoke, but here in RI they already made it illigal to smoke in public places. Crack, if my neighbor does crack, how does it effect me? Steroids, heroine, pot, lsd, all the same stuff. (for the record, i have never done any drug, I just stand for what I think is right. I'm not black, but I dont think blacks should have there own schools. Same idea.)
Lets look at the pros and cons
Cons- It effects the user. Well, they chose to do it, so the hole they are in was dug by themselves. How does this effect the general public... . Maybe the rise in healtcare cost.
Pros- We get rid of gang violence. Gang violence related to drugs kills more people than the actual drugs do. The jails wouldn't be as overcowded. Sure some people would wind up there for what they did while on drugs, but all those who got caught with dealing/possession wouldn't be in there. The gov. would also make a lot of money off it if you could only buy it from a pharmacy, and they put a tax on them. Imagine, we would be able to feed so many starving children, but we have to keep drugs illigal.
06-13-2005, 06:36 PM
They can arrest child molestors, they just can't get a conviction!Originally Posted by RAVEN
This country is going in the wrong direction. I thought Republicans wanted to get big brother out of our lives. I need to learn another language.
06-13-2005, 08:25 PM
Up here in Canada things work the other way around. A supplement must be considered 'safe' by Health Canada before it can be sold to the public. That's why we don't usually have supplements pulled of the shelf. Once cleared, there has to be substantial proof that the substance is harmfull in order for it to be pulled.The drawback is that it takes much longer for supplements to be analysed and considered 'safe' by Health Canada, for example 6-OXO and Yohimbe were just cleared to be sold in Canada this year. Ephidrine was never banned here there were just restrictions on how it could be sold. I've seen DHEA up here at health food stores so it must be cool with Health Canada.Originally Posted by davisville64
06-13-2005, 10:27 PM
Doesn't food build muscle?
I can't imagine 50 and 60 year olds getting arrested for posession of a controlled substance.
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