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After you open the link, click on video.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44664
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44664
I have Muslim friends my self but these pieces of garbage should be either arrested or exported for sedition. Where's homeland security? These guys were trying to encite a riot.I think I'm very open-minded, and I have some Muslim friends whose opinions I like to hear, but these motherfuckers should get the **** out of this country. They come here to make money, then spit in the face of every American who gave them an opportunity. :rasp: Isn't that what they accuse us of doing?
Keep in mind that despite what the media tells you, most Muslims are very nice, thoughtful people. They aren't all like the worthless swine in that article.
Agreed. They can go back to warlords and ruthless dictators if they want to come here and disrespect our national symbol.I have Muslim friends my self but these pieces of garbage should be either arrested or exported for sedition. Where's homeland security? These guys were trying to encite a riot.
When I was in a tiny village without running water in the mountains of Morocco I saw a donkey with a bunch of 2Liter Pepsi bottles strapped to his back:rofl:My grandmother tells me that in major cities in Pakistan that there are Pizza Huts, McDonalds, and all major food and clothes chains there. The girls wear short skirts and dye their hair blonde. :thumbsup:
That's fucking classic. :lol:When I was in a tiny village without running water in the mountains of Morocco I saw a donkey with a bunch of 2Liter Pepsi bottles strapped to his back:rofl:
Why am I never there when these things happen? I would have loved to head into that group with a lead pipe.After you open the link, click on video.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44664
Never could get into the whole religion thing myself. Never made sense to me. Not to say nothing of value comes out of it, but I just don't think the whole package is worth going after.Being surprised when religious people do or say stupid things is like being surprised when a monkey throws poop. It's something they do, are good at, and specifically known for. Acceptance of religion is pretty much a sign of a defect in one's intelligence. Mind you I'm not discrediting spirituality, just religion; there's a difference.
amen! :thumbsup:Who cares if they destroy a flag. People worry to much about dumb ****. These guys woudln't even bother burning a flag but of coarse they knew they would get a reaction. Burning a flag does not change what the USA stands for or hurt anybody. People need tougher skin IMO.
I don't really have a problem with the burning of the flag, but the assholes who are doing it. People come here from another country, get into ours rather easily, which I have no problem with. Anyone who wants to try and make a life for themself is welcome as far as I'm concerned. Then they get a tax subsidized education, preferential treatment when it comes to hiring and all other areas where affirmative action like programs are in effect. Then after they've made a life for themselves they could barely hope for in other places, and never get in their home country, they burn the American flag, stomp on it, cheer when thousands of civilians are killed in terrorist attacks and chant things like, "America is evil."Who cares if they destroy a flag. People worry to much about dumb ****. These guys woudln't even bother burning a flag but of coarse they knew they would get a reaction. Burning a flag does not change what the USA stands for or hurt anybody. People need tougher skin IMO.
It's the double standard that is irritating, bro...that's all. I don't give a ****, personally.Who cares if they destroy a flag. People worry to much about dumb ****. These guys woudln't even bother burning a flag but of coarse they knew they would get a reaction. Burning a flag does not change what the USA stands for or hurt anybody. People need tougher skin IMO.
Amen!I don't really have a problem with the burning of the flag, but the assholes who are doing it. People come here from another country, get into ours rather easily, which I have no problem with. Anyone who wants to try and make a life for themself is welcome as far as I'm concerned. Then they get a tax subsidized education, preferential treatment when it comes to hiring and all other areas where affirmative action like programs are in effect. Then after they've made a life for themselves they could barely hope for in other places, and never get in their home country, they burn the American flag, stomp on it, cheer when thousands of civilians are killed in terrorist attacks and chant things like, "America is evil."
Of course, should a white person with a Judeo-Christian background express the slightest displeasure with this behavior they're branded an ignorant racist, culturally insensitive, etc. And it seems a lot of people agree with this standard. It's indicative of a general lack of balls on the part of Americans that pisses me off. So I guess you could say it's not the demonstrators that piss me off but the current crop of Americans who have fostered the atmosphere in which this general lack of decorum and tastless, ungrateful shitty behavior is not only tolerated but encouraged. Which is why I can't quite bring myself to hate Bush. I disagree with almost everything he's done, but it's nice to know not everyone in the United States is a nutless, submissive pussy. It's also nice to know the world sees that we're still not a country you want to piss off.
I think it was Twain who said something like: In America we have freedom of speech and the prudence to rarely exercise it. I would never even consider making this behavior illegal. But just because something is legal doesn't mean it's to be done. Whatever happened to propriety, gratefulness, decorum and a little assimilation into the mainstream? Personally I think what used to make this country greater was you had the freedom to do such things, but people rarely did them because they had judgement, prudence, moderate tempers, pride in their behavior and a sense of loyalty. People could disagree without being disagreeable in temper and attitude. I think we've been celebrating and 'tolerating' to an extreme the misfits and dissenters in this country a little too much. There's a difference between the police arresting someone for doing something stupid and a citizen going up to them and asking what the **** their problem is.Unfortunately I cant open the video (its a work thing). But if these guys were trying to incite a riot then they should be arrested. The thing is though I agree with "its no big deal" people have been burning the American flag for quite some time now I actually applaud this type of nature because it is one of the things that makes our country great. People can come here and create a life that they wouldnt be able to anywhere else and still burn the flag and say America is evil and we don't hang them for it in fact we don't even consider it illegal as long as they have the permit to start a fire.
Using your logic I 'll just go into your home and take your stuff. Absolute freedom, can't regulate my behavior.I think that denouncing any country is ok. i believe in absoulte freedom. the gov't should no regulate any behavior. For instance, If I want to use cocaine I should be able to. So I don't really care about anyone burning a flag. I think that you should get over it. BTW why don't you be orginal, it does not do you any good to quote an psychopath like Michael Savage.
I understand you hold the flag and what it stands for sacred but here is where i'm coming from. These people aren't just some nuts who are defending a tree or a one eyed blue toed newt somewhere and fighting the so called establishment so they burn a flag in defiance. No, these are so called US Citizens who are Muslims, publicly denouncing this country, everything it stands for and publicaly announcing their allegince to the enemy of a group who currently wants to blow us up. They also are inciting others to do the same. To turn a blind eye to something like this is absolute foolishness. They should be arrested and deported at the very least and by not doing so we are giving aid to the enemy. People were winning after 9/11 and asking why wasn't something done. Nothing was done because in the name of tollerence we don't want to offend anyone. Pride for our county is fast going away which is why so many adopt this complacent attitude. If you come to this country and want to be a citizen then you are saying I want to adopt the American way of life, not I want to live here and bring my way of life. They are saying we must chance to conform to their way of life and we have idiot groups that back them. All that is needed for the forces of evil to succeed is for enough good men to remain silent.‘When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.’When did I say it was ok to burn the flag, the idiot burned a peice of fabric that meant nothing to him, it was still his right to do so. He doesn't really understand what it means because the flag in his country was probably used as toilet paper if they ran out. These fools just know that burning the flag pisses off Americans. I mean really what did they accomplish by burning the flag, we already know that they hate America and Muslim groups have been telling the American Muslims for years now that we're their enemy and to rise up. You know why it wont happen because most of the Muslims that live in this country arent religous freakos, sure there's a few but they dont want to give up their American lifestyle they just want to talk big.
I understand your outrage at these idiots but really thats all they are is idiots.
One more thing, I'm glad you hold the flag sacred, I do as well and think every American should.
He's not saying it okay to burn the flag, Doc. But it is legal and should remain so.Tell these guys it's ok to burn the flag
... unless it hurts someone else or their property. In other words your right to swing your fist ends at another man's face. Freedom for all, not just one.Using your logic I 'll just go into your home and take your stuff. Absolute freedom, can't regulate my behavior.
since you are a man of limited intelligence I will explain it to you. For example, You probably take or have taken prohormones or steriods in the past. There are a bunch of assholes that decided that you were to stupid to take them so they decided to ban them. Why did they do that? He or she thought that they know what is best for you. Freedom stops when you start to touch me or anyone else. If I or anyojne else wants to do anything without toching someone else, I believe it is fine. And for the soliders who died, I respect their service but my freedom should not stop when you or anyone does not like it.Using your logic I 'll just go into your home and take your stuff. Absolute freedom, can't regulate my behavior.
Very well said, to bad so many don't get the implications of the action.I don't really have a problem with the burning of the flag, but the assholes who are doing it. People come here from another country, get into ours rather easily, which I have no problem with. Anyone who wants to try and make a life for themself is welcome as far as I'm concerned. Then they get a tax subsidized education, preferential treatment when it comes to hiring and all other areas where affirmative action like programs are in effect. Then after they've made a life for themselves they could barely hope for in other places, and never get in their home country, they burn the American flag, stomp on it, cheer when thousands of civilians are killed in terrorist attacks and chant things like, "America is evil."
Of course, should a white person with a Judeo-Christian background express the slightest displeasure with this behavior they're branded an ignorant racist, culturally insensitive, etc. And it seems a lot of people agree with this standard. It's indicative of a general lack of balls on the part of Americans that pisses me off. So I guess you could say it's not the demonstrators that piss me off but the current crop of Americans who have fostered the atmosphere in which this general lack of decorum and tastless, ungrateful shitty behavior is not only tolerated but encouraged. Which is why I can't quite bring myself to hate Bush. I disagree with almost everything he's done, but it's nice to know not everyone in the United States is a nutless, submissive pussy. It's also nice to know the world sees that we're still not a country you want to piss off.
So then as you say it's ok to do cocaine because it dosent' touch anyone else? Sorry but as you stated I am of limited intelligence.since you are a man of limited intelligence I will explain it to you. For example, You probably take or have taken prohormones or steriods in the past. There are a bunch of assholes that decided that you were to stupid to take them so they decided to ban them. Why did they do that? He or she thought that they know what is best for you. Freedom stops when you start to touch me or anyone else. If I or anyojne else wants to do anything without toching someone else, I believe it is fine. And for the soliders who died, I respect their service but my freedom should not stop when you or anyone does not like it.
I don't hate you or anyone else. Morality is a very subjective thing. Again I say, as long as you are not hurting me physically, I don't care what you do. If you were to say that you are a Nazi, I would not care. If you said you were a Stalinist I would not care. Why do you care so much about what someone else does?So then as you say it's ok to do cocaine because it dosent' touch anyone else? Sorry but as you stated I am of limited intelligence.
Looks to me like you are a law unto yourself and it's all about what is right for you. There are things as Duty, Honor, Respect, Self Sacrafice.
I'm have no doubt you hate me more than you hate those that are trying to destroy this country just becuase my Morality dosen't line up with what you consider morality. In the end I would die to preserve or freedoms even if it meant saving your life. Would you do the same?
O, and insults are not very becoming.
Anymore **** like that and you are gone.since you are a man of limited intelligence I will explain it to you.
My family history suggests otherwise as I am from Germany (my mother is German) and my Grandfather who was the Mayor of Frankfurt at the time of WWII openly opposed Hitler and was executed for it. Freedom I understand, but there is no such thing as absoulate freedom, there is such a thing as right and wrong. Freedom in America has not been most honorable, but it is honorable men who have fought to give us freedom.I don't hate you or anyone else. Morality is a very subjective thing. Again I say, as long as you are not hurting me physically, I don't care what you do. If you were to say that you are a Nazi, I would not care. If you said you were a Stalinist I would not care. Why do you care so much about what someone else does?
Honor and the like are very good traits, however, we live in a country where freedom has been the most honorable. No one, not even the governement, has the right to tell me and you what we should do. The biggest scam has been that the government conviced people that they are a seperate entity. This is utter bs because we are the gov't. Lastly, I would die to perserve our freedoms but let's remember American Revolution. The war was fought to have no big brother lurking over our heads. Let us never forget that. But your logic seems to indicate that you would have been with the British bc they were pissed at what americans were doing. If you don't believe me just pick up any history book.
Yes. That's freedom when it's freedom for all, not just one. Freedom for one is a dictatorship. Freedom for some is a democracy it seems. Freedom for all would say that if you or anyone else wants to do cocaine, it's fine. If you want to get behind the wheel of car afterward and drive, and endanger the lives of a lot of people, it's not fine. It's summed up in that one statement in my other post: your freedom to swing your fist ends at another man's face, because then it impinges upon his freedom. Someone doing drugs, even if they do them to the point of complete self destruction, be it with cocaine, steroids, weed or heroin, is tragic but should not be illegal. Someone getting a near free education and achieving a level of wealth and freedom here they never could in their home country and then burning our flag is an asshole, but their behavior should not be illegal. It should be mocked, and any and every social pressure possible should be brought to bear to squash those fuckers, but they should still have the right to do it. You can't make being an ungrateful, spiteful asshole illegal. If their behavior starts to demonstrably affect others in a negative way the government has a right to step in.So then as you say it's ok to do cocaine because it dosent' touch anyone else?
I've done plenty of cocaine in my time and I haven't hurt a fly. I know plenty of people who occasionally do coke, weed, and Christ knows how many other drugs who are leading full and productive lives. Some of them have kids, some don't. None of the kids seem to be doing badly, the ones I know the best are healthy and happy as can be. You know of some people for whom the opposite was true. Is that cause for throwing all users in prison then? That makes no sense. Some people can't control their eating and they pass that habit on to their kids with pretty obvious health consequences. Should we ban food?On the issue of cocaine, in working with people who have done said drugs and others in know that doing them as you might think only to yourself has never not effected others. Total families have been destroyed because one member decided to excercise this freedom. Childeren have been devistated and it allow for a business that fluorishes to hurt many. And I could go on and on. Can we do it, of course. Is it beneficial, no. Will it harm others, absoutly.
Yeah, but we're using the Politics forum again. I love this ****.My point was not on the use of cocaine, I guess I wasn't clear. My point was that often time we do things and think they only effect us and not others. We must carefully weigh what we do. I know people just as you described and of course I have seen the other end of the spectrum. All those on the other end said they werent hurting others as well. Again my point in not on the use of coke but we seriously need to consider the consiquense of our action. Everything we do has a effect on others. But were getting off topic. Sort of. Be Cool.