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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    He dances in a ring, I can't imagine it lasts very long if his boxing is anything like his debating. But it's still a bit of a dance
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    Lol@reputation on a fitness forum. I'm actually friends offsite with quite a few of these guys, but awesome keep fighting for that online rep. My degrees aren't in the arts, FYI.
    Good, good and good. I don't care about your offline friends, mine are most likely cooler than yours although if you are a dancer we more than likely gauge cool much differently.

    I have as much invested here as you do, by participation. Your participation is viewed as one of a clown. If that's cool with you, good. You can always always find comfort in a real life friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    Brb correcting spelling because I have no valid argument...






    Attachment 73998


    Thanks SP!
    knew it was only a matter of time jim, you must be running out if you are now recycling
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ballesteri View Post

    knew it was only a matter of time jim, you must be running out if you are now recycling
    I don't have a limitless supply!

    And it was completely relevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasGuy View Post
    Good, good and good. I don't care about your offline friends, mine are most likely cooler than yours although if you are a dancer we more than likely gauge cool much differently.

    I have as much invested here as you do, by participation. Your participation is viewed as one of a clown. If that's cool with you, good. You can always always find comfort in a real life friend.
    Viewed by whom? Lol. Your online persona and web friends. Cool. Lol. remind me to change that someday when I have time. I'll save you the time to respond, "hey SP you're a !!!!- smiley face - youtube video - effing jpeg." Funny thing is, like I do with Buick (which is hardly respond to him because it's boring) you keep responding to someone that you refer to as a clown, which doesn't say much about you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    I've explained it ad nauseum, numerous times. You require as proof a literal statement of such. If it's too complicated for you connect the dots, because it requires one to think through these things, then on both sides this is a clear waste of time. There are many others that are in agreement with me. JudoJosh posted a link to a scholarly paper which you willfully ignored. Let's pretend for a second that I'm wrong, and using poor examples as you've asserted many times. What about Josh's link?
    I've explained, "ad nauseum, numerous times" (redundancy is your forte) that your ad nauseum explanations are off topic, yet you ignore that completely. We are discussing the charges of a document upholding slavery or not vs. Jefferson carrying out those charges or not. He didn't for a large portion of the population as you have mentioned. This is the conversation. I don't care about your red herrings, circular reasoning or straw men. These have been your entire basis and they are invalid.

    I'm starting to spin with you in this weird and repetitive dance though and I don't dance, so I'm stepping off the carousel until you either admit your example to Jim's is a poor one and we can get back to the original topic and move it forward, or you show me where, specifically, the Bill of Rights supports slavery as opposed to it's handlers of sorts refusing to carry out its charges; in which case I will apologize for being wrong and we can get back to the original argument with yours and Jim's examples being on par with one another. Kind of.

    I want a specific piece of text from the Bill of Rights, not an inferred logical fallacy from your as$hole. The Bill of Rights is on the chopping block here, not your as$hole, which I'm sure is bottomless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    I don't have a limitless supply!
    Lol......you have gone though all the images in the vortex of the internet which does have its limits... I can only suggest that you get handy with a camera to bring in some fresh stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    Viewed by whom? Lol. Your online persona and web friends. Cool. Lol. remind me to change that someday when I have time. I'll save you the time to respond, "hey SP you're a !!!!- smiley face - youtube video - effing jpeg." Funny thing is, like I do with Buick (which is hardly respond to him because it's boring) you keep responding to someone that you refer to as a clown, which doesn't say much about you.
    A bigger, smarter, more athletic and on point guy with cooler friends than you for starters. Who are my web friends and what makes a web friend? So far Jim is a participant in an open conversation who shares similar views. I don't know anything about him but he seems like he'd probably be a good dude IRL. Your douche factor even permeates the matrix though.

    And cool " I don't give a f#ck" story, bro. You're so awesome you are just blessing the forum with your presence for our benefit, amiright? But deep down inside you just don't give a fu*k, it's all so blaise and you're really only controlling people and sht, except not really because it doesn't matter. Just spending time not giving a fu#k and sh!t.

    Take it for what it is like I said, but when we happen to be on the same website at the same time, you are a clown and your posts are a waste of time, outside of cheap entertainment online. Because I don't give a f$ck, bro.

    And yeah, I did post after I said I wouldn't post but, in my defense, you didn't mention the actual topic so you aren't exactly trolling successfully. For the unimportant record and all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasGuy View Post
    A bigger, smarter, more athletic and on point guy with cooler friends than you for starters. Who are my web friends and what makes a web friend? So far Jim is a participant in an open conversation who shares similar views. I don't know anything about him but he seems like he'd probably be a good dude IRL. Your douche factor even permeates the matrix though.

    And cool " I don't give a f#ck" story, bro. You're so awesome you are just blessing the forum with your presence for our benefit, amiright? But deep down inside you just don't give a fu*k, it's all so blaise and you're really only controlling people and sht, except not really because it doesn't matter. Just spending time not giving a fu#k and sh!t.

    Take it for what it is like I said, but when we happen to be on the same website at the same time, you are a clown and your posts are a waste of time, outside of cheap entertainment online. Because I don't give a f$ck, bro.

    And yeah, I did post after I said I wouldn't post but, in my defense, you didn't mention the actual topic so you aren't exactly trolling successfully. For the unimportant record and all.
    ^^^Cool rant. Lol.
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    Southpaw when are you going to prove your point using the text itself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Southpaw when are you going to prove your point using the text itself?
    Never.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post

    Never.
    He is gonna find another book about some authors historical perspective who also can't prove anything using written law directly from the bill of rights itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    He is gonna find another book about some authors historical perspective who also can't prove anything using written law directly from the bill of rights itself.
    Did the Bill of Rights prohibit slavery? Yes or No? <---nothing else. YES or NO?

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    Yes because slavery does not coincide with the laws in the bill of rights.
    나는 2000년 10월 매들린 올브라이트 전 미 국무장관 매들린 사랑, 그 중 한 뜨거운 젠장!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Yes because slavery does not coincide with the laws in the bill of rights.
    And yet slaves were considered property until the Thirteenth Amendment was ratified. Which occurred when? <---Answer this question ONLY.

    While I know you're looking for a blanket answer, where you want me to say that the B.O.R. does not state that blacks were NOT offered equal protections under the law, it's easy to conclude as much when you consider the following; the first ten amendments did nothing to alter any other portions of the Constitution of which PROTECTED slavery.

    The bill of rights is merely the collective name for the first 10 amendments of the Constitution. The right to bear arms did not extend to slaves, this is just one such example. So if the Bill of Rights was written with the intent being to uphold rights for ALL (based on the text), that isn't how it was interpreted by its author(s). Your argument is that the Bill of Rights isn't meant to be interpretive, I say that it was meant to be interpretive based on the various sources and scholarly papers written by historians. If you don't like those references because you view them as intellectual pandering, then refer back to Josh's link on the subject versus...."it's not true because I say so, read the text." Did you even bother to read the link that he provided?
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    Considered slaves by man, not the Bill of Rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Considered slaves by man, not the Bill of Rights.

    So the document is a demi-god? Men viewed them as slaves, but not the piece of paper? Who wrote the piece of paper, Morpheus? The bill of rights is comprised of the first 10 amendments in the Constitution, they are inherently connected. Because, although, the first 10 amendments do not implicitly imply that blacks did not share equal rights/protection under the law, other articles in the Constitution upheld slavery, in direct contradiction with your interpretation of the first 10 amendments.
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    "the greatest danger to freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution" - southpaws favorite Thomas Jefferson
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post

    So the document is a demi-god? Men viewed them as slaves, not the piece of paper. Who wrote the piece of paper, Morpheus? The bill of rights is comprised of the first 10 amendments in the Constitution, they are inherently connected.
    What's important is written law, kkk could have wrote it, it don't change the law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carpee View Post
    "the greatest danger to freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution" -
    Obama, Pelosi, and Reid don't ignore the Constitution they just interpret it to fit their fancy. Bend, cram, crumple it to fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ballesteri View Post

    Obama, Pelosi, and Reid don't ignore the Constitution they just interpret it to fit their fancy
    And their lemming supporters follow their interpretation rather than reading the BORs itself.
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    Yeah the lemmings have been a real problem here in America since the Dems started on about them getting the vote
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    So the document is a demi-god? Men viewed them as slaves, but not the piece of paper? Who wrote the piece of paper, Morpheus? The bill of rights is comprised of the first 10 amendments in the Constitution, they are inherently connected. Because, although, the first 10 amendments do not implicitly imply that blacks did not share equal rights/protection under the law, other articles in the Constitution upheld slavery, in direct contradiction with your interpretation of the first 10 amendments.
    No, the document is a charge that men fumbled for decades, looping back to the argument you still choose to side step. Men like Jefferson.
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