I am watching F-911 tomorrow
- 07-08-2005, 08:30 PM
Originally Posted by gobig1
Here is one of the definitions of Politician from Merriam Webster online;
Politician - a person primarily interested in political office for selfish or other narrow usually short-sighted reasons.
Politicians DO NOT have your, my, our best or ANY of our personal interests in mind. This country is not free anymore, it is ran by politicians with THEIR own agenda in mind.
As for this country not being free, you are sadly mistaken.
- 07-08-2005, 08:33 PM
Originally Posted by Brooklyn
- 07-08-2005, 09:28 PM
Brooklyn, you really think that any president would play games like that?
I mean seriously, it's not like Bush needs to get reelected or anything.
Oh, and please name an instance of Bush "trumping" the threat of bin laden.
I have heard plenty of the "war on terror" but I don't remember OBL really being mentioned beyond Op EF.
But I do agree with you, capturing bin laden would not mean that it would be the end of the "war on terror", he is simply a figurehead.
But hey, that doesn't stop liberals from screaming "WHAT ABOUT BIN LADEN????!!!?!?!"
now does it?
07-09-2005, 05:28 AM
That is your OPINION.....after 21+ years in the military I would defend our "freedoms" with my life, that doesn't mean our country is free.......increasing encroachment into my personal desires that have no harm to any other individual is not a free society (my opinion) although we do enjoy many more benefits than most societies, we are FAR from free to do as we please or choose in respect to not harming others.Originally Posted by jrkarp
Just because you "agree" with a politicians point of view on a certain subject DOES NOT mean they have YOUR best interest in mind, they don't even know who the hell you are, so YES the broad sweeping generalization definitely applies to politicians.
07-09-2005, 09:26 AM
So basically what you are saying is that if a politician doesn't know you personally, he's out for selfish motives? I think it's pretty ridiculous to assert that just because a politician doesn't know everybody who he represents personally, that means that he doesn't care about the best interests of the community (as a whole) that he was elected to represent.Originally Posted by gobig1
Obviously he can't know what is in your PERSONAL best interests, but that doesn't mean that he doesn't care about his constituents at all.
07-10-2005, 03:58 PM
If you would have read my post slower, we both basically said the same thing, except that I'm not saying he is being selfish with only his interests/motives in mind, JUST NOT YOURS in mind. Obviously, he is voted into office on broad, general issues, i.e., reduce crime, increase jobs, etc., those may/may not affect you directly, that in no way means he is looking out for YOU. I think my whole point of this is that a politician will make uninformed decisions based on media propaganda, specifically steroids (which is why we are all here) and go with the "general" public point of view and make them illegal. Back in 1990 when steroids became scheduled class III and illegal, all the doctors on the voting panel said it was the wrong thing to do. I just don't like someone I don't know making decisions for me, maybe you do......I don't. Enough on this......enjoy your day.Originally Posted by jrkarp
07-10-2005, 04:42 PM
Um, you said:Originally Posted by gobig1
So, actually that is exactly what you said.Originally Posted by gobig1
EDIT: Wait, I think I get what you are saying: elected politicians do not represent us personally. So what? That doesn't mean that they are selfish or bad people or not good at their jobs, which is what meant when you originally said:
Originally Posted by gobig1I don't like people making decisions for me either, but that's life.Originally Posted by gobig1
07-16-2005, 01:42 AM
07-16-2005, 06:23 AM
I don't think so that was just one of the conspiracy theorists they spoke with and that was his views on the situation. There were several others in the article that one just semed to jump out in my mind.Originally Posted by INFOHAZARD
I was wondering where you were at? Welcome back.
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