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Old 10-19-2004, 01:59 AM   #1
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My school has gone too far

The other day, San Jose State University decided it would be great if they had a showing of Farenheit 9-11 for the students to see. So, is it even legal for a state university to engage in this kind of **** ? I'm don't consider myself a republican or democrat, but I do have a problem with forcing your ideas on others
 
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Old 10-19-2004, 02:03 AM   #2
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As long as they don't force it upon the students to watch it (other than maybe in a poli sci class). They can show whatever they want. My school has shown a bunch of different politically-oriented movies in the 4 years I've been here, but they've never forced any attendence (as a university, professors can make things requirements for classes) of anything like that.

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The other day, San Jose State University decided it would be great if they had a showing of Farenheit 9-11 for the students to see. So, is it even legal for a state university to engage in this kind of **** ? I'm don't consider myself a republican or democrat, but I do have a problem with forcing your ideas on others
I believe that if they show that, maybe they should show something like FarenHype 9/11 or Celsius 41.11, etc...but, we're in california and this is academia
 
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Old 10-19-2004, 03:06 AM   #5
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As long as they don't force it upon the students to watch it (other than maybe in a poli sci class). They can show whatever they want. My school has shown a bunch of different politically-oriented movies in the 4 years I've been here, but they've never forced any attendence (as a university, professors can make things requirements for classes) of anything like that.

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They also advertised it on the school paper and had people (didn't look like students) handing out flyers about it on the streets around campus too. Just seemed to me like they forced it.
 
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Old 10-19-2004, 03:10 AM   #6
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If you are overly distraught, then write an editorial in the university paper.
 



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If you are overly distraught, then write an editorial in the university paper.
The board will use it as toilet paper. I've given up on our educational system being fair a long time ago. If I knew any better, I would have given up back when my teacher practically endorsed communism to my class...
 
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I hate Michael Moore period... Bowling For columbine was completely trashing my country, and I refuse to watch feirenheit 911.. because i know that is even worse. I hate it when I am fighting for something, and people are trashing it, or taking certain freedoms for granted.

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Just because you are uncomfortable with it does not mean they are in the wrong. Political movies of any variety can be shown on campuses. Academia is of course primarily liberal (and yes I work at a law school, I see it all the time), but I would hardly call a showing "forcing" anything.
 
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Old 10-19-2004, 11:56 AM   #10
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Just because you are uncomfortable with it does not mean they are in the wrong. Political movies of any variety can be shown on campuses. Academia is of course primarily liberal (and yes I work at a law school, I see it all the time), but I would hardly call a showing "forcing" anything.
You're right, I just had a bad day yesterday at school with one guy who put that flier on my hand. I threw the flier away and he said people like me are bad for this country, that heated me up real good

My intention wasn't to bash anyone.
 
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Being the non-confrontational person that I am, I tend just to pocket any and all fliers that I get, and throw them out later. No sense in gettin riled up over things like that IMHO.

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Old 10-19-2004, 02:12 PM   #12
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One thing I don't understand is that is if a University is truly "liberal," and believes they are correct in their philosophy, why wouldn't they show both sides, i.e. also screen movies from the "other side." If they are so sure that their philosophies will ring true, regardless, why don't they put that ball in play and be the pinnacles of fairness they claim to be?

What disappoints me is that if you don't give students all sides, they are ill-equipped to understand an issue in its totality, and they aren't prepared to interact with the rest of the world. When you leave that University bubble and enter the "real world" it can't be a real shock, and it can piss you off! (It pissed me off!)
 
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Just because you are uncomfortable with it does not mean they are in the wrong. Political movies of any variety can be shown on campuses. Academia is of course primarily liberal (and yes I work at a law school, I see it all the time), but I would hardly call a showing "forcing" anything.
It's definately not forcing anything on anyone. However, it's a blatant attempt at brainwashing easily influenced college students into eating up the liberal propaganda and IMHO an attempt to do whatever they can do effect the election in John Kerry's favor. It's wrong any way you look at it coming from an institution of education. How educated are students who are only given one point of view and are only taught one way of thought? LOL. Kinda bass-ackwards to me.
 
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Well I have noticed that there have been more than a few attempts to only persent one side of everything by a few people on here.
 
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Well I have noticed that there have been more than a few attempts to only persent one side of everything by a few people on here.
LOL...good one.
 
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Being the non-confrontational person that I am, I tend just to pocket any and all fliers that I get, and throw them out later. No sense in gettin riled up over things like that IMHO.

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Well I have noticed that there have been more than a few attempts to only persent one side of everything by a few people on here.
Well, none of us ever claimed to be non-partisan; nor did we ever claim to be an (or part of an) "educational" institute! (which happens to be practically brainwashing people! Seriously, my teachers had me scared shitless 1.5 years ago telling me "I would be drafted if Bush is re-elected" and hwo they have "sources" in the government, etc. I'm not freggin' kidding I had multiple teachers telling me this crap. It's complete BS.)
 
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