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10-06-2004, 09:18 PM
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| Registered User  | Do the debates even mean a thing during this election? I don't know many people who are on the fence, they aren't going to change my mind in any way. |
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10-06-2004, 09:51 PM
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| Registered User | I don't see it either, but all sources keep saying there's a lot of swing voters out there and the pre & post Bush/Kerry debate numbers seem to support that idea Quote:
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10-06-2004, 10:21 PM
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 Bush 50% Kerry 50% ... margin of error +- 40% Lets face it, with only a month or so to go, if you don't know who you are voting for by now, you shouldn't be voting. | |
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10-06-2004, 11:02 PM
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10-07-2004, 12:45 AM
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| Banned | Sometimes I wonder if you folks even know what Haliburton is. It is a contracting company. That's all. They aren't even doing any of the work in Iraq; what they do is subcontract work. That's it. There are HUNDREDS of companies out there that do the exact same bloody thing. Haliburton is big, that's all. The thing is, there was a rather large number of contracting companies that formed a conglomerate in hopes for a bid on the Iraq account. No such luck since Haliburton got a no-bid contract. Haliburton is not special except the fact that their profits = Cheney's profits. |
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10-07-2004, 01:25 AM
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| Moderator Board Moderator | Quote:
size is a fictitious character. Respect yourself and others will respect you. | |
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10-07-2004, 03:21 AM
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| My P3N1Z is chafed.   | Quote:
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10-07-2004, 05:04 AM
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| My P3N1Z is chafed. | Quote:
It's plain and simple: Republicans are for big business and don't want to place ridiculous amounts of constraint on them b/c they create jobs. Democrats are against big business because it makes some people rich while they want everybody's income to be more "equal" regardless of what work they do or how hard they worked to earn their money! Republicans want true equality of races (i.e. get rid of affirmative action, stop profiling by race for school, gov't aid, etc. forms). Democrats think minorities are stupid and have to give them lower standards and free money so they never have to work and the dems get votes. Republicans want illegal immigration because they're greedy bastards and want cheap labor. Democrats want illegal immigration because they can get more of them on welfare and other government programs so that they can get more voters to vote for them so they keep their freebies! Republicans want tax breaks for everyone! Democrats think the more you make, the more we take. Eventually everyone's equal, right? I think it's a crime that somebody--a Dr. for example--will spend 12 years in post HS education (that number includes residency) working his/her ass off, just so that the ****ing socialists/communists in the democratic party can steal their money and give it to those who chose not to work hard and choose to live off of food stamps and welfare checks ('cuz it's free). Ppl. get to drop out of school, have kids like crazy, collect gov't freebies, and steal others' money all because....why? Democrats want us to keep dumping money into public education, but the money is going to teachers who aren't performing and are just living off of their respective unions! Republicans want to treat education like a business. Make is as efficient as possible, producing the best product, all while using as little waste (financially) as possible. Democrats want gay marriage and push it via undercutting our legal system using POS lawyers and liberal crack-head judges to push their agenda w/out the people's vote or approval. Republicans (true republicans) think it should be left of for state governments to decide, but too many religious fanatics are in charge, so we're not seeing this at the highest levels (bush). Democrats pander to their lawyer special interests, screw hard working doctors over, drive up insurance costs, and eventualy the consumer eats it. Republicans want to limit the awards for malpractic suits (because tons of them are unsubstantiated to begin with) and actually do something to stop this ridiculous fiasco from worsening. I personally dont identify as "republican" but since everybody likes two party politics there's a party I can "tolerate" and a party I "loathe". You can figure out which is which. Speaking of tolerance, the liberal democrats idea of tolerance is nothing short of facism. Not only do you have to "tolerate" you have to "accept" "love" and "keep your mouth shut about"... | |
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10-07-2004, 09:21 AM
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10-07-2004, 11:49 AM
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| Board Supporter | Great ****ing post man!!  Couldn't have said it better myself.  Quote:
CSCS, CISSN Support the International Society of Sports Nutrition | |
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10-07-2004, 11:52 AM
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| Board Supporter | On another note- people keep saying that Kerry won his debate and that the Cheney/Edwards debate was close. IMO, the one factor that would have impressed me about the democrats was if they could lay out a specific plan about what they are going to do so much better. Iraq might be a mess, but you think Bush isn't trying his best? Kerry says "we're going to train the Iraqi troops faster." Do you honestly think these troops in Iraq are working 3 or 4 hour shifts? I honestly don't know whats going on in Iraq. None of us really do. But for somebody to say "we're going to work faster" isn't much of a statement. Does anybody really know specifically what Kerry is going to do? All he keeps saying is "we can do better." How bout some details.... CSCS, CISSN Support the International Society of Sports Nutrition |
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10-07-2004, 12:02 PM
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We can do better, and more of the same from Bush doesn't seem like it will get us where we need to be. As for Bush "trying his best"....ROFL WTF man!! I don't care how "hard he tries", he created this shithole mess in Iraq and someone unfortunately will have to wipe his administrations ass and clean it up. His "best" is a complete mess, and I say get someone in who can do the job. | |
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10-07-2004, 12:08 PM
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| Moderator Board Moderator | Quote:
size is a fictitious character. Respect yourself and others will respect you. | |
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10-07-2004, 12:09 PM
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| The Axe Man Cometh!! | Here is something Ann Coulter has to say about the debate (I love this woman). HEART PATIENT OUTRUNS AMBULANCE CHASER Wed Oct 6, 8:00 PM ET Op/Ed - Ann Coulter By Ann Coulter Here's what the vigilant viewer of Tuesday night's debate would have learned: You should vote for the Kerry/Edwards ticket because John Edwards (news - web sites)' old man used to learn math off of the TV. Dear Diary: Went to a vice presidential debate Tuesday night and an "Oprah" show broke out. Ann Coulter Too bad Mr. Edwards didn't teach his son John that $119 billion (money actually spent on the Iraq (news - web sites) war so far) does not equal $200 billion (money John Edwards claims has been spent on Iraq war so far), or that 700 Iraqi military deaths (actual number of Iraqi deaths in war to remove Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)) is greater than zero (number of Iraqi deaths acknowledged by Edwards). After **** Cheney (news - web sites) had beaten Edwards about the head for a while during the debate, Edwards waved his girlish hands and said: "There are 60 countries who have members of al-Qaida in them. How many of those countries are we going to invade?" The Democrats' silver-tongued boy thought he had made a very clever point. In fact, I believe this is the first time we've gotten any Democrat to admit that the entire al-Qaida terrorist network is not living in a narrow mountainous path between Afghanistan (news - web sites) and Pakistan. Democrats are now on the record: Sixty countries harbor al-Qaida. But apparently the one nation that had managed to entirely purge itself of all al-Qaida members was Iraq -- under the great statesman Saddam Hussein! Iraq is the only country in the world liberals believe was hermetically sealed from al-Qaida. Not only would the Democrats not have attacked Iraq, they would have given Saddam Hussein an award for having so thoroughly rid his nation of al-Qaida members. (And I know these Democrats are very proud of their superior manicures, but someone should tell Edwards to keep those girlish hands down.) When asked to comment on the Israel-Palestinian conflict during the debate Tuesday night, Edwards had another personal story: "Now, if I can, just for a moment, tell you a personal story. I was in Jerusalem a couple of years ago, actually three years ago, in August of 2001, staying at the King David Hotel. We left in the morning, headed to the airport to leave, and later in the day I found out that that same day, not far from where we were staying, the Sbarro Pizzeria was hit by a suicide bomber in Jerusalem. Fifteen people were killed. Six children were killed." A strange psychological compulsion compels some people to inject themselves into all historic events. On cross examination, it generally turns out they were not actually in New York City on 9/11, but had visited New York a week earlier. They did not march in Selma, but knew someone who knew someone who did. They were not near the Sbarro Pizzeria, but in the same country where it happened. John Edwards managed to turn the deadly bombing of the pizzeria into another story about himself. On the basis of his brush with death, Edwards concluded: "What are the Israeli people supposed to do? ... They have not only the right but the obligation to defend themselves." (The scariest part of the story was that Edwards just had his nails done at the manicure place next door to the pizzeria that very day!) So are we to surmise that if Edwards had not been at the King David Hotel the day the Sbarro Pizzeria was blown up, he would not think Israel has a right to defend itself? Cheney did not need to stay in the King David Hotel to know what to do about ruthless suicide bombers. He said: "With respect to Israel and Palestine, Gwen, the suicide bombers, in part, were generated by Saddam Hussein, who paid $25,000 to the families of suicide bombers. I personally think one of the reasons that we don't have as many suicide attacks today in Israel as we've had in the past is because Saddam's no longer in business." Edwards lamely boasted, "I would find terrorists where they are" -- but not in Iraq, the one nation miraculously free of all al-Qaida terrorists -- "and stop them and kill them before they do harm to us." For some reason, Democrats always feel the need to proclaim that they would kill terrorists too -- just like they must constantly proclaim their support for "the troops." Edwards expressed his support for "the troops" by describing the brave men fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan -- the war liberals claim to support -- as evidence of America's decline. In his rousing closing statement -- about himself again -- Edwards said, "Here's the truth: I have grown up in the bright light of America." (Technically, it was the not-such-bright-lights who sit on juries that turned Edwards into a multimillionaire trial lawyer.) "But that light is flickering today," he said. (Or is that the light from the tanning salon?) As evidence of the flickering light of America, Edwards said: "You see it when you sit at your table each night and there's an empty chair because a loved one is serving in Iraq or Afghanistan." How precisely is the Kerry/Edwards team going to "find terrorists where they are and stop them and kill them before they do harm to us" -- if no one is going to be away from the dinner table doing the capturing and killing? It's very confidence-building that the Democrats' argument for replacing the current team in the White House during a battle for America's survival is Edwards' capacity to recite the first draft of a Hallmark card inscription about flickering lights. |
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10-07-2004, 12:19 PM
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10-07-2004, 12:32 PM
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