Election of 2012....Who ya got?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by nonidentity View Post
    Ron Paul! Give peace a chance! He's got my vote for sure. I want to see peace, see an end to the drug war and see an America I can be proud of! plus if we play our cards right we'll be able to get our gear without being demonized and without facing a criminal record.
    Relax..dont be too emotional. I love Ron Paul as well, but dont think that if he gets elected everything is going to be fine and dandy and the country will be perfect. Ending the silly war on drugs is a righteous challenge that will be extremely difficult to overcome.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Yes, and America being involved with NATO's wars makes it even a bigger/worse issue for me.
    The fact that its NATO means it doesnt have to be declared, nor is it a case where the president makes the call (somewhat)
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Relax..dont be too emotional. I love Ron Paul as well, but dont think that if he gets elected everything is going to be fine and dandy and the country will be perfect. Ending the silly war on drugs is a righteous challenge that will be extremely difficult to overcome.
    you're right, but I think things will be much better than they are now, and much better than they were with bush.

  4. I think Perry can write off the black vote next year. I just heard about his hunting camp scandal. No wonder he doesn't like O

  5. Quote Originally Posted by AE14

    It is higher in NJ than nationally. He stands no shot, he is too polarizing right now. His best chance is to wait till 2016, and hope Obama wins and tanks further.
    Half the population is in states higher than average, thats how averages work its the change over time that matters
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    Half the population is in states higher than average, thats how averages work its the change over time that matters
    really easy? I didnt know that

    Lets be honest, so many in this thread are b!tching about the national numbers, but based on your thoughts they dont matter.

    But lets look at NJ for a second....the have increased under Christie in his attempt to provide the wealthy with greater tax breaks while cutting public funding. Yep...just the guy I would want

  7. I dunno Christie is just the kinda liberal Rep we might be looking for. He's for civil unions and gun control. Way more liberal than O. People voted for a Democrat and got a Republican...lets see what flip flopping will do

  8. Quote Originally Posted by AE14

    really easy? I didnt know that

    Lets be honest, so many in this thread are b!tching about the national numbers, but based on your thoughts they dont matter.

    But lets look at NJ for a second....the have increased under Christie in his attempt to provide the wealthy with greater tax breaks while cutting public funding. Yep...just the guy I would want
    See now that as a statement its more relevant. Florida is still higher than national average, but has been going down.

  9. This is why I don't think CC would last. He wont come of conservative enough Right now the right needs to embrace Romney as he is probably all they have. throw in Rubio as VP, and there is a great shot.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by AE14
    This is why I don't think CC would last. He wont come of conservative enough Right now the right needs to embrace Romney as he is probably all they have. throw in Rubio as VP, and there is a great shot.
    Its virtually a lock unless something incredible happens before election

  11. Perry seemed like a good idea when I first saw him in the primaries but quickly started shifting my eyebrows on what I was observing. Bachman... its just not your time, keep at it though. Romney is the best theyve got and still in some ways lackluster compared to some years past when he was a frontrunning candidate.

    As a 23 year New Jersey resident I would prefer that CC did not run. 3 reasons:
    1) Hes too far late in the game to make a dramatic statement to his stance and convince a nation why they should vote for him
    2) His candidacy could further cause negative speculation as to the fragmented conservative image by opposing parties
    3) Hes fat. Fat people have a hard time running.

    I do like CC though. Not entirely, but hes made some progress in a state thats hurting pretty bad right now. At the same time claiming to know nothing about the $4 toll hike for me to get to work everyday is hogwash. Pushing a hit on the teachers union seems like a maniacal thing to do but why is a small town superintendant making more than some doctors or politicians?? Yet we still have great education in NJ. But he has that bullhead go-getter attitude we need in the office - not this world class politico pushover thats sitting there now. Everyone takes advantage of him at home and across seas because they know its easy.
    By believing passionately in something that still does not exist, we create it. The nonexistent is whatever we have not sufficiently desired.
    Franz Kafka

  12. Quote Originally Posted by carpee View Post
    Herman Cain. . .

    but nothing is going to change, except the 'change' Obama was talking about - which is tearing apart this country.

    outside of the economy, debt, freedoms in danger, etc. that is wrong with this country, I would only vote for a leader who will stand for Israel.
    I completely agree. If only about 45% of the rest of the country could agree with us then we'd be straight lol. America on its way to recovery. Unfortunately, we'll probably continue to see increased government involvement, less freedoms in both private and corporate sectors, and in general just central government nazi's taking over the country.

    Cain + Paul = Recovery for America.

    Otherwises, we'll be headed down a path of change that would most likely make us an entirely different country from what made us so great in the first place.

  13. And lets not forget that without a republican Senate to go with a republican president, nothing will change for the country. They will stale mate every time when trying to pass something.

  14. Looks like CC is out. Romney/Rubio lock it up

  15. Quote Originally Posted by fueledpassion

    I completely agree. If only about 45% of the rest of the country could agree with us then we'd be straight lol. America on its way to recovery. Unfortunately, we'll probably continue to see increased government involvement, less freedoms in both private and corporate sectors, and in general just central government nazi's taking over the country.

    Cain + Paul = Recovery for America.

    Otherwises, we'll be headed down a path of change that would most likely make us an entirely different country from what made us so great in the first place.
    We are already headed down that road.

    The new world order bush senior so highly praised is the path we are on.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    Looks like CC is out. Romney/Rubio lock it up
    Ok so Bush is out, but Bush is still in.
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Ok so Bush is out, but Bush is still in.
    No way they'll beat the current Bush v3

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Jessep76 View Post
    No way they'll beat the current Bush v3
    Actually...next term it will be Bush 9 again or 10.
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  19. Its amazing that you guys think Paul would be any different. These folks are all bought and paid for

  20. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Actually...next term it will be Bush 9 again or 10.
    Woh woh ...woh. haha even if you include Clinton, W, and O that would make the next person 5?

    Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    Its amazing that you guys think Paul would be any different. These folks are all bought and paid for
    Or Paul would just get filibustered

  21. Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    Its amazing that you guys think Paul would be any different. These folks are all bought and paid for
    Well..for one thing, Ron Paul is the only anti-war candidate, the rest have no anti-war tone to them.

    Also, Ron Paul is the one addressing the real issues wrong with the economy, which is the endless wars/empire/military-industral-complex and the federal reserve. The rest only speak of band aids and meaningless solutions.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by Jessep76 View Post
    Woh woh ...woh. haha even if you include Clinton, W, and O that would make the next person 5?


    Or Paul would just get filibustered
    Reagan, Jimmy Carter, Ford, Lyndon Johnson, Bush Sr. are all corrupt evil nwo corporate devils. Dont let Jimmy fool you, he is a Bilderberg.
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by Jessep76
    Or Paul would just get filibustered
    By his own party

  24. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    By his own party
    absolutely. Not from the Democrats they're too spinelss to speak up period. He needs to go indie. Maybe get Bernie as his VP

    Actually maybe not Bernie, he's for SS

  25. Paul will never get the vote from the repubs. His best option is to be a 3rd party and attempt to screw it up for someone else.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    Paul will never get the vote from the repubs. His best option is to be a 3rd party and attempt to screw it up for someone else.
    I agree...he needs to use the republican party to his advantage so he can keep getting national and mainstream exposure on the debates then leave when he is not nominated (even if he won, the republicrats wont nominate him.)

    As much as I want to vote for him, I honestly have mixed feelings about voting him if he has a Republican title attached to himself. I may actually skip out if he doesnt leave the party...not sure.
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by ax1

    I agree...he needs to use the republican party to his advantage so he can keep getting national and mainstream exposure on the debates then leave when he is not nominated (even if he won, the republicrats wont nominate him.)

    As much as I want to vote for him, I honestly have mixed feelings about voting him if he has a Republican title attached to himself. I may actually skip out if he doesnt leave the party...not sure.
    I understand where you are coming from. It's almost as if you sell out voting for him with that party affiliation.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    I agree...he needs to use the republican party to his advantage so he can keep getting national and mainstream exposure on the debates then leave when he is not nominated (even if he won, the republicrats wont nominate him.)

    As much as I want to vote for him, I honestly have mixed feelings about voting him if he has a Republican title attached to himself. I may actually skip out if he doesnt leave the party...not sure.
    His popularity has skyrocketed since he first came on the scene as far as a possible nominee. If he went under a third party he'd not only keep his fan base but wouldn't have competition within that party and people would have a chance to vote for him.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    Its amazing that you guys think Paul would be any different. These folks are all bought and paid for
    ur probably right. But I like to dream that one day a straight and narrow non-politician will run for office. Somebody similar to Washington - Someone that doesn't desire money and power more than the well-being of this country. Paul isn't this type of person, but if he just did what he says he'd do I think that would be a good start. Personally, I'm on the Cain train more than anything. We dont need politicians anymore. We need someone with a little sense.

    Plus, if Cain were somehow magically elected into office and somehow passed his taxing deal then we'd have to repeal the 17th amendment which would be a HUGE step back from centralized government power and a big step forward to the original natural rights movement.

    In fact, I think the taxing deal is Cain's plan to open up the door to giving power back to the states which would be just awesome! After all, not all states r equal. Some states have their crap together while others dont and I believe it'll allow us to choose to live in the area that embraces our personal philosophy instead of centralizing everything to make EVERYONE suffer crappy regulations and government mandates.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by fueledpassion View Post
    ur probably right. But I like to dream that one day a straight and narrow non-politician will run for office. Somebody similar to Washington - Someone that doesn't desire money and power more than the well-being of this country. Paul isn't this type of person, but if he just did what he says he'd do I think that would be a good start. Personally, I'm on the Cain train more than anything. We dont need politicians anymore. We need someone with a little sense.

    Plus, if Cain were somehow magically elected into office and somehow passed his taxing deal then we'd have to repeal the 17th amendment which would be a HUGE step back from centralized government power and a big step forward to the original natural rights movement.

    In fact, I think the taxing deal is Cain's plan to open up the door to giving power back to the states which would be just awesome! After all, not all states r equal. Some states have their crap together while others dont and I believe it'll allow us to choose to live in the area that embraces our personal philosophy instead of centralizing everything to make EVERYONE suffer crappy regulations and government mandates.
    the trouble with 9-9-9 is that most economists agree, we lose money the first few years. Which would kill any chance that he has of pushing forward any agenda. I think there have been some Presidents that did truly have the greater good in mind, but it seems that most now have only 1 thing in mind and thats money.

    Very sad indeed
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