So uh...false savior/ time yet? Obama...
- 06-19-2010, 01:24 PM
- 06-19-2010, 04:17 PM
I came in here expecting some good old fashioned Obama bashing and its quickly de-railed into aliens and 2012........ugh
06-25-2010, 01:09 PM
There are still some major things that have to happen before Christ returns according to prophecy. One is the war of Got and Magog against Israel. They are present day Iran and Russia. All nations will come against Israel and God will annihilate them that attack. That's coming soon.
The rebirth of Babylon which is in Iraq. That is currently happening. The Iraqi govt wants to create a historical and cultural tourist center to promote and build the economy. They want to recreate Babylon to historical accuracy. This will aid in a season of peace and prosperity in Iraq that no one thought possible. The Word says the antichrist will rise from Babylon.
One of the other Major events is the rebuilding of the Holy Temple on the temple mount. There are theories that the mosque currently their will be destroyed during the war of Gog and Magog. That will clear the way for construction of the Holy Temple.
I can't post links since I'm on my BB storm. But I am reading a book called Epicenter by Joel Rosenberg. He's a leading authority on the topic of middle east history and current events as it relates to the end times prophecy. He has written some fiction works but this is an explanation of the Ezekial prophecy and corellates them to recent history. Very eye opening.
I will admit I didn't have a thorough understanding of the prophecies but this book has helped put things in perspective. I will also admit I have entertained the idea that Obama could somehow be the antichrist. Just based on the shear adoration on the global scale of him on the global scale. But had doubts since nothing I read indicating the antichrist would come from America.
I don't know when its all going to happen. I think the first step is when Russia and Iran attack Israel. When that happens you can bet things are happening.
06-25-2010, 02:13 PM
Hmm... Interesting info, but I am not a proponent of the apocalypse being triggered by invading Isreal, but a majority of right wing Christians in the US would love to usher in the Second Coming of Christ manually..
Biblically Israel was God's people from 12 tribes literally a race of people, each having their own distinctive personalities and unfortunately a couple did not make it such as the tribe of Dan, and Ephraim.
Now fast forward to today, God's people are those that have come to accept Christ the spiritual Israel if you will.
My point is to draw parellels with whats happened and what is happening, for example Ancient Babylon which did exist in Iraq and was the center of the ancient world in power and riches, what implications and relevancy does it have today..
Well the world has modernized, and become for the most part westernized, and "civilized", with the majority of the world enjoying great riches and decandance, the worldliness is babylon.. Welcome to Babylon
The antichrist is against God, and God's people, look at Revelation for the definition of God's people
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
The antichrist is against anything that is composed of keeping God's commandments and having the faithof Jesus.
I can tell you right now tens of thousands died for keeping God's commandments and having the faith of Jesus, look at the inquisition and all the people who died by not blaspheming God by calling another man "The Holy Father"... Its a system, not a person.
Read the Bible and look at history regarding great changes, such as the Reformation..
06-30-2010, 10:56 AM
07-03-2010, 08:39 PM
If Jesus comes....I welcome it.....I have torn feelings yes, but to be with Him would be straight up amazing and words cant really explain it
07-08-2010, 10:21 AM
07-08-2010, 11:01 AM
07-08-2010, 05:17 PM
I understand what you are saying MK9, but in Ezekial it lists very specific events that will happen before the return of Christ. You can't discount them. The first war of Gog and Magog isn't the apocalypse itself. But it will be the first in a series of events leading up to the return of Christ. God will destroy the ones that attack Israel in such a way that will cause a renewal and awakening unlike anything previous. That will lead to the time of peace during which the false prophet will emerge.
07-18-2010, 09:43 PM
07-18-2010, 09:48 PM
07-19-2010, 06:17 AM
07-19-2010, 07:22 AM
just got back from the beach with my beautiful girl freind and my family for a week
just got a free supp to log
just got a raise
just got a 8 kill streak on my video game
and just told god thanks for everything
07-19-2010, 07:24 AM
07-19-2010, 07:28 AM
and im still young and dont consider myself a politician but do you honestly think obama will see another term? All that change crap he shot to the public was so far nothing, no change, regular old president just like the rest. If he dont make his change for america and he does get elected again you can pretty much give your thinks to the majority of new adult white kids buying 50 cent albums and wearing du rags. fncking idiots probably dont even read the news
07-19-2010, 08:22 AM
Well you are partly right. He has changed America. But not the way it needed to change. He has changed it so radically that its going to take time to fix. The only way he would get reelected is like Clinton did. Republican Congress fixed things and he took credit. I just don't think that will even happen since Obama is off the deep end compared to Clinton. At least he knew where to draw the line and play nice.
07-19-2010, 08:40 AM
07-29-2010, 11:13 AM
07-29-2010, 11:21 AM
07-29-2010, 12:04 PM
Here's the whole interview (see web link), very interesting stuff...
Check out the video called:
"Gary Stearman talks to Avi Lipkin"
07-30-2010, 08:47 AM
As long as people believe in a all powerfull all knowing god the human race and our planet is doomed. If you really honestly believe in a God and that the end of times is near then what is the point ?
If enough people around the world believed that this world was near end days or whatever your beliefs wanna call it, You will self fullfill your prophecy.
07-30-2010, 02:05 PM
I can assure you of one thing though, there is an all-powerful god. And it's true that there are 2 sides of an unseen spiritual battle, good and evil, or whatever you wanna call it. You only doubt because you haven't experienced it yet. But after you learn that it's true, you will believe, whether you like it or not. (or at least that's how it affected me)
07-30-2010, 03:38 PM
Good read in here, folks! Very interesting to hear so many perspectives.
Mine? Simple - Live each day as it is. Expect the worst and 2 things may happen: you'll get the worst, or you'll be pleasantly surprised! Fortunately, I'm always pleasantly surprised. I live each day as if it were my last, cause you just never know! There are people in this world who hate me. I take risks - ride a motorcycle, eat raw fish, and leave the house every day! Having a daughter has taught me to slow down and appreciate SO much more than I used to. Everyone always says that time goes by so fast, but if you live in the moment, that time can be all you want it to be.
If the world is going to end, there's not a thing I can do about it. I'll enjoy it right up until I croak. I'll do what I need to do, what I want to do, and that's about it. Ain't nobody gonna break-a my stride. Ain't nobody gonna hold me down. Oh, no, I got to keep on movin'.
-RecoverBro Zombie Specialist and Paracord Wrangler
-Independent due to lies that hurt my family. Loyal to myself and my Bro's.
07-30-2010, 03:46 PM
07-30-2010, 04:33 PM
No offense taken, sir. To be honest, the comment was an indiscriminate statement, for this discussion was spilling over in a few other threads at the time and I made it thinking of one person in particular. And congrats on the kill streak! I've had a few in my life time... except I wasn't looking at a TV/Computer. What game were you playing?
07-30-2010, 05:18 PM
modern warfare 2, waitin on black ops, other than that theres a new mortal kombat game coming out with x ray special moves, it looks pretty tight
07-30-2010, 05:28 PM
08-02-2010, 12:41 AM
But you asked what is the point if the end times are near- simple to me really
Christianity states many things on eternal life
Jesus Himself said many things on eternal life
My personal belief is in Jesus Christ
That when I die I will be with Him and all will be forgiven because of his Death on the Cross
Thats my personal belief thats my point
Whether or not you believe in God is up to you and is a search you must make on your own
but if you have never searched for Him (I do not know if you have or not) then how can you doubt Him?
Contempt prior to investigation will keep a man in everlasting ignorance
I am not saying you are ignorant sir! just a little quote I try to live by for MANY things in life
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