Mavi Marama raid...the real IDF footage
- 06-01-2010, 09:50 PM
Mavi Marama raid...the real IDF footage
Maybe it's an attempt from the beyond radical and newly developed Turkish government to exploit the state of Israel as well as convincing everyone what didn't actually happened or maybe it's Aljazeera as well as are muslim loving president Nobama which blatantly condemn the attack without getting much info on it....my conclusion it's to persuade as well as make all islamist groups regardless of fanitical intent or not to arouse more regional hate against Israel....Humanitarian aid my ass.
Of course this will probably never be aired or shown for the public to see.
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjkLUcbJWo"]YouTube- Close-Up Footage of Mavi Marmara Passengers Attacking IDF Soldiers[/nomedia]
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvS9PXZ3RWM&feature=re lated"]YouTube- Weapons Found on the Flotilla Ship Mavi Marmara Used by Activists Against IDF Soldiers[/nomedia] Note : I don't care if these aren't considered conventional weapons, they are deemed weapons of opportunity in my book.
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9p5QT91QYs&feature=re lated"]YouTube- Israeli Navy Soldier Describes the Violent Mob Aboard Mavi Marmara[/nomedia]
- 06-01-2010, 11:38 PM
06-02-2010, 12:27 AM
Zero V, what do you mean. I'm curious. Pm me if you like.
Yeah, this whole thing was one massive publicity stunt. They weren't humanitarians. israel didn't have a choice but to take the bait; the alternative was to allow the blockade to be passed, and open the floodgates of weapon supply to hamas in gaza. That's suicide, as one hizbullah on one border is enough.
The big question is Turkey: will they escort the next two ships set to leave in the next 48 hours? If they do, what will israel do? If there is a skirmish, turkey could involve nato. That's extreme, but so is turkey officially supporting a flotilla organized by an org with ties to al qaeda and hamas, and illegally attempting to run a legal blockade. It's absolutely mind blowing.
06-02-2010, 11:25 AM
The "peace activists" have ties to the weather underground and William Ayers and that bunch of lefty wack jobs also.
06-02-2010, 10:14 PM
1.*A maritime blockade is in effect off the coast of Gaza. Such blockade has been imposed, as Israel is currently in a state of armed conflict with the Hamas regime that controls Gaza, which has repeatedly bombed civilian targets in Israel with weapons that have been* smuggled into Gaza via the sea
2.*Maritime blockades are a legitimate and recognized measure under international law that may be implemented as part of an armed conflict at sea.
3.*A* blockade may be imposed at sea, including in international waters, so ong as it does not bar access to the ports and coasts of neutral states.
4.*The naval manuals of several western countries, including the US and England recognize the maritime blockade as an effective naval measure and set forth the various criteria that make a blockade valid, including the requirement of give due notice of the existence of the blockade.
5. .*In this vein, it should be noted that Israel publicized the existence of the blockade and the precise coordinates of such by means of the accepted international professional maritime channels. Israel also provided appropriate notification to the affected governments and to the organizers of the Gaza protest flotilla.* Moreover, in real time, the ships participating in the protest flotilla were warned repeatedly that a maritime blockade is in effect
6.*Here, it should be noted that under customary law, knowledge of the blockade may be presumed once a blockade has been declared and appropriate notification has been granted, as above
7.*Under international maritime law, when a maritime blockade is in
7.*Under international maritime law, when a maritime blockade is in effect no boats can enter the blockaded area.* That includes both civilian and enemy vessels.
8.*A state may take action to enforce a blockade. Any vessel that violates or attempts to violate a maritime blockade may be captured or even attacked under international law.*The US Commander's Handbook on the Law of Naval Operations sets forth that a vessel is considered to be in attempt to breach a blockade from the time the vessel leaves its port with the intention of evading the blockade.* breach a blockade from the time the vessel leaves its port with the intention of evading the blockade
9.*Here we should note that the protesters indicated their clear intention to violate the blockade by means of written and ora statements.*Moreover, the route of these vessels indicated their clear intention to violate the blockade in violation of international law
10.*Given the protesters explicit intention to violate the naval blockade Israel exercised its right under international law to enforce the blockade. It should be noted that prior to undertaking enforcement measures, explicit warnings were* relayed directly to the captains of the vessels, expressing Israel's intent to exercise its right to enforce the blockade
11.*Israel had attempted to take control of the vessels participating in the flotilla by peaceful means and in an orderly fashion in order to enforce the blockade. Given the large number of vessels participating in the flotilla, an operational decision was made to undertake measures to enforce the blockade a certain distance from the area of the blockade
12.*Israeli personnel attempting to enforce the blockade were met with violence by the protestors and acted in self-defense to ward off the attacks.
06-03-2010, 03:27 AM
06-03-2010, 04:28 AM
06-03-2010, 06:02 AM
syria, iran, hezbollah, are all less dangerous and less criminal than those bloodthirsty israeli fools. funny how people are linking those activists with organisations like hamas, while israel itself is a pure terrorist entity. state terrorism of the highest order. the tenach clearly states that israel will destroy itself, it's only a matter of time, thank God.
06-04-2010, 01:57 PM
06-04-2010, 05:49 PM
I have no problem with Israel, they are smack center in the harshest part of the world....
When is the last time they sent a suicide bomber my way? Never have. Good enough for me.
You know half the reason we have terrorist attacks, is because of Americas history of being invaders, committing our own war crimes, and being a nation of pigs right?
Dont judge another nation while thinking ours is still great, Ours is now beginning to rip at the seams and will probably end up separated in our lifetime.
06-05-2010, 12:38 PM
06-05-2010, 05:16 PM
Holy ****! Who let this bag out of the casket?
Helen Thomas: Jews, go back to Poland Veteran White House correspondent Helen Thomas makes shocking anti- Yitzhak Benhorin Published:* 06.05.10, 20:49 / Israel News WASHINGTON - Veteran White House Correspondent Helen Thomas has provoked a storm in the US after saying the Jews must"get the hell out of Palestine" and "go home" to Germany or Poland. Thomas, who will be celebrating her 90th birthday soon, made the remarks in a talk with Rabbi David Nesenoff on the margins of an Rabbi David Nesenoff on the margins of an event held by President Obama last
06-06-2010, 12:57 AM
You know what, I kinda want the US to abandon Israel just to watch the ****storm of Israel drop kicking everyones ass into the ground. 6 days war all over again.
06-06-2010, 03:53 PM
the idf is really not that great anymore. they were good in 1967 at their best in 1973, not so great during the occupation in lebanon and they really got their ass kicked big time in 2006 by hezbollah in southern lebanon.
06-06-2010, 04:26 PM
I dont believe war should be waged the way it is today, with politics and red tape and "laws"....its a war. Destroy your enemy, should they surrender show them mercy. Should they fight, then yes innocents will perish because of their actions but if your going to have war have it the right way.
06-06-2010, 04:34 PM
I woud agree about the IDF, should there be no restrictions, then there would be no one else left in the Middle East. You cant f with the IDF
06-06-2010, 04:45 PM
06-07-2010, 12:06 PM
I dont belive israel will ever be distroyed, you will see countries rise up against them and israel will wipe them off the map
06-07-2010, 12:32 PM
What i wondered is why they don't just sink whatever tries to cross the blockade without attempting to board.
06-07-2010, 12:55 PM
06-07-2010, 12:59 PM
06-07-2010, 01:22 PM
There is a big chicken-and-egg problem between Israel and the Palestinians. Which leads to the question of whether the blockade is legitimate from an international perspective. Playing hardball would get too much international scrutiny.
06-07-2010, 03:11 PM
06-07-2010, 08:06 PM
muslims bring death and destruction, and are the enemy of every Jew out there, and Christian. We would embrace, or try and convert...they will cut your head off, and blow up your family.
I think America should assist Israel with military aid in the form of Nuclear bombs
06-07-2010, 11:24 PM
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