Mavi Marama raid...the real IDF footage

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  1. Mavi Marama raid...the real IDF footage


    Maybe it's an attempt from the beyond radical and newly developed Turkish government to exploit the state of Israel as well as convincing everyone what didn't actually happened or maybe it's Aljazeera as well as are muslim loving president Nobama which blatantly condemn the attack without getting much info on it....my conclusion it's to persuade as well as make all islamist groups regardless of fanitical intent or not to arouse more regional hate against Israel....Humanitarian aid my ass.

    Of course this will probably never be aired or shown for the public to see.

    [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjkLUcbJWo"]YouTube- Close-Up Footage of Mavi Marmara Passengers Attacking IDF Soldiers[/nomedia]


    [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvS9PXZ3RWM&feature=re lated"]YouTube- Weapons Found on the Flotilla Ship Mavi Marmara Used by Activists Against IDF Soldiers[/nomedia] Note : I don't care if these aren't considered conventional weapons, they are deemed weapons of opportunity in my book.

    [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9p5QT91QYs&feature=re lated"]YouTube- Israeli Navy Soldier Describes the Violent Mob Aboard Mavi Marmara[/nomedia]


    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion...#ixzz0peJthsmc


  2. Quote Originally Posted by ryanp81 View Post
    Maybe it's an attempt from the beyond radical and newly developed Turkish government to exploit the state of Israel as well as convincing everyone what didn't actually happened or maybe it's Aljazeera as well as are muslim loving president Nobama which blatantly condemn the attack without getting much info on it....my conclusion it's to persuade as well as make all islamist groups regardless of fanitical intent or not to arouse more regional hate against Israel....Humanitarian aid my ass.

    Of course this will probably never be aired or shown for the public to see.

    YouTube- Close-Up Footage of Mavi Marmara Passengers Attacking IDF Soldiers


    YouTube- Weapons Found on the Flotilla Ship Mavi Marmara Used by Activists Against IDF Soldiers Note : I don't care if these aren't considered conventional weapons, they are deemed weapons of opportunity in my book.

    YouTube- Israeli Navy Soldier Describes the Violent Mob Aboard Mavi Marmara


    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion...#ixzz0peJthsmc
    Dark times are coming for Israel, this cannot be avoided. Its already been decided.

    As for our useless dog that we call a president, he is nothing more than a fool.
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  3. Zero V, what do you mean. I'm curious. Pm me if you like.

    Yeah, this whole thing was one massive publicity stunt. They weren't humanitarians. israel didn't have a choice but to take the bait; the alternative was to allow the blockade to be passed, and open the floodgates of weapon supply to hamas in gaza. That's suicide, as one hizbullah on one border is enough.

    The big question is Turkey: will they escort the next two ships set to leave in the next 48 hours? If they do, what will israel do? If there is a skirmish, turkey could involve nato. That's extreme, but so is turkey officially supporting a flotilla organized by an org with ties to al qaeda and hamas, and illegally attempting to run a legal blockade. It's absolutely mind blowing.

  4. The "peace activists" have ties to the weather underground and William Ayers and that bunch of lefty wack jobs also.

  5. From mfa.gov.il:

    1.*A maritime blockade is in effect off the coast of Gaza. Such blockade has been imposed, as Israel is currently in a state of armed conflict with the Hamas regime that controls Gaza, which has repeatedly bombed civilian targets in Israel with weapons that have been* smuggled into Gaza via the sea

    2.*Maritime blockades are a legitimate and recognized measure under international law that may be implemented as part of an armed conflict at sea.

    3.*A* blockade may be imposed at sea, including in international waters, so ong as it does not bar access to the ports and coasts of neutral states.

    4.*The naval manuals of several western countries, including the US and England recognize the maritime blockade as an effective naval measure and set forth the various criteria that make a blockade valid, including the requirement of give due notice of the existence of the blockade.

    5. .*In this vein, it should be noted that Israel publicized the existence of the blockade and the precise coordinates of such by means of the accepted international professional maritime channels. Israel also provided appropriate notification to the affected governments and to the organizers of the Gaza protest flotilla.* Moreover, in real time, the ships participating in the protest flotilla were warned repeatedly that a maritime blockade is in effect

    6.*Here, it should be noted that under customary law, knowledge of the blockade may be presumed once a blockade has been declared and appropriate notification has been granted, as above

    7.*Under international maritime law, when a maritime blockade is in
    7.*Under international maritime law, when a maritime blockade is in effect no boats can enter the blockaded area.* That includes both civilian and enemy vessels.

    8.*A state may take action to enforce a blockade. Any vessel that violates or attempts to violate a maritime blockade may be captured or even attacked under international law.*The US Commander's Handbook on the Law of Naval Operations sets forth that a vessel is considered to be in attempt to breach a blockade from the time the vessel leaves its port with the intention of evading the blockade.* breach a blockade from the time the vessel leaves its port with the intention of evading the blockade

    9.*Here we should note that the protesters indicated their clear intention to violate the blockade by means of written and ora statements.*Moreover, the route of these vessels indicated their clear intention to violate the blockade in violation of international law

    10.*Given the protesters explicit intention to violate the naval blockade Israel exercised its right under international law to enforce the blockade. It should be noted that prior to undertaking enforcement measures, explicit warnings were* relayed directly to the captains of the vessels, expressing Israel's intent to exercise its right to enforce the blockade

    11.*Israel had attempted to take control of the vessels participating in the flotilla by peaceful means and in an orderly fashion in order to enforce the blockade. Given the large number of vessels participating in the flotilla, an operational decision was made to undertake measures to enforce the blockade a certain distance from the area of the blockade

    12.*Israeli personnel attempting to enforce the blockade were met with violence by the protestors and acted in self-defense to ward off the attacks.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by poison View Post
    From mfa.gov.il:

    1.*A maritime blockade is in effect off the coast of Gaza. Such blockade has been imposed, as Israel is currently in a state of armed conflict with the Hamas regime that controls Gaza, which has repeatedly bombed civilian targets in Israel with weapons that have been* smuggled into Gaza via the sea
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    12.*Israeli personnel attempting to enforce the blockade were met with violence by the protestors and acted in self-defense to ward off the attacks.
    Completely agree but there is a much bigger picture to the situation.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by ryanp81 View Post
    Maybe it's an attempt from the beyond radical and newly developed Turkish government to exploit the state of Israel as well as convincing everyone what didn't actually happened or maybe it's Aljazeera as well as are muslim loving president Nobama which blatantly condemn the attack without getting much info on it....my conclusion it's to persuade as well as make all islamist groups regardless of fanitical intent or not to arouse more regional hate against Israel....Humanitarian aid my ass.

    Of course this will probably never be aired or shown for the public to see.
    I'm going to guess you're a proud Tea Party member and also do not have a college degree? Am I right?

  8. syria, iran, hezbollah, are all less dangerous and less criminal than those bloodthirsty israeli fools. funny how people are linking those activists with organisations like hamas, while israel itself is a pure terrorist entity. state terrorism of the highest order. the tenach clearly states that israel will destroy itself, it's only a matter of time, thank God.

  9. I have no problem with Israel, they are smack center in the harshest part of the world....

    When is the last time they sent a suicide bomber my way? Never have. Good enough for me.


    You know half the reason we have terrorist attacks, is because of Americas history of being invaders, committing our own war crimes, and being a nation of pigs right?

    Dont judge another nation while thinking ours is still great, Ours is now beginning to rip at the seams and will probably end up separated in our lifetime.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Imeniaan View Post
    syria, iran, hezbollah, are all less dangerous and less criminal than those bloodthirsty israeli fools. funny how people are linking those activists with organisations like hamas, while israel itself is a pure terrorist entity. state terrorism of the highest order. the tenach clearly states that israel will destroy itself, it's only a matter of time, thank God.
    All the arab countries want Israel not to exist. Not really the peace lovers you describe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zero V View Post
    I have no problem with Israel, they are smack center in the harshest part of the world....

    When is the last time they sent a suicide bomber my way? Never have. Good enough for me.


    You know half the reason we have terrorist attacks, is because of Americas history of being invaders, committing our own war crimes, and being a nation of pigs right?

    Dont judge another nation while thinking ours is still great, Ours is now beginning to rip at the seams and will probably end up separated in our lifetime.
    We can only hope.

  11. Holy ****! Who let this bag out of the casket?

    Helen Thomas: Jews, go back to Poland Veteran White House correspondent Helen Thomas makes shocking anti- Yitzhak Benhorin Published:* 06.05.10, 20:49 / Israel News WASHINGTON - Veteran White House Correspondent Helen Thomas has provoked a storm in the US after saying the Jews must"get the hell out of Palestine" and "go home" to Germany or Poland. Thomas, who will be celebrating her 90th birthday soon, made the remarks in a talk with Rabbi David Nesenoff on the margins of an Rabbi David Nesenoff on the margins of an event held by President Obama last

  12. You know what, I kinda want the US to abandon Israel just to watch the ****storm of Israel drop kicking everyones ass into the ground. 6 days war all over again.

  13. the idf is really not that great anymore. they were good in 1967 at their best in 1973, not so great during the occupation in lebanon and they really got their ass kicked big time in 2006 by hezbollah in southern lebanon.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Imeniaan View Post
    the idf is really not that great anymore. they were good in 1967 at their best in 1973, not so great during the occupation in lebanon and they really got their ass kicked big time in 2006 by hezbollah in southern lebanon.
    Only because the media and red tape is restricting them...if lets say, the right events happen...then they could take the leash off, say F*** the humanitarian crap, and level entire cities as is needed to be done to win wars...

    I dont believe war should be waged the way it is today, with politics and red tape and "laws"....its a war. Destroy your enemy, should they surrender show them mercy. Should they fight, then yes innocents will perish because of their actions but if your going to have war have it the right way.

  15. I woud agree about the IDF, should there be no restrictions, then there would be no one else left in the Middle East. You cant f with the IDF
    Mr. Supps Board Rep

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Imeniaan View Post
    the idf is really not that great anymore. they were good in 1967 at their best in 1973, not so great during the occupation in lebanon and they really got their ass kicked big time in 2006 by hezbollah in southern lebanon.
    Where's the validity in this, have you ever served in the IDF or at all trained with them ?

    "They were good in 1967 and there best in 1973"....so was that when they made the playoffs.

  17. I dont belive israel will ever be distroyed, you will see countries rise up against them and israel will wipe them off the map

  18. What i wondered is why they don't just sink whatever tries to cross the blockade without attempting to board.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    What i wondered is why they don't just sink whatever tries to cross the blockade without attempting to board.
    Cause then you guys will stop sending the yearly USD 8 billion for not playing along with the peace process.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Nitrox View Post
    Cause then you guys will stop sending the yearly USD 8 billion for not playing along with the peace process.

    Isn't the point of a blockade "you can't go past this line" ? So once they are told to turn around but refuse, i'm not sure why sinking them is a problem.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    Isn't the point of a blockade "you can't go past this line" ? So once they are told to turn around but refuse, i'm not sure why sinking them is a problem.
    'These are not the droids that you are looking for...' -Obi-Wan

    There is a big chicken-and-egg problem between Israel and the Palestinians. Which leads to the question of whether the blockade is legitimate from an international perspective. Playing hardball would get too much international scrutiny.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by shields144 View Post
    I dont belive israel will ever be distroyed, you will see countries rise up against them and israel will wipe them off the map
    Winner Winner Winner! According to a book I read.

  23. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i08L0...yer_embedded#!



    muslims bring death and destruction, and are the enemy of every Jew out there, and Christian. We would embrace, or try and convert...they will cut your head off, and blow up your family.

    I think America should assist Israel with military aid in the form of Nuclear bombs

  24. They have nukes already.
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