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  1. They say a bullet cant fix things.......


  2. Quote Originally Posted by madds87 View Post
    They say a bullet cant fix things.......
    My motto...

    Though we are still in a period of time where the "illusion" of changing things through voting exists, the time is rapidly coming where people realize there really is only one way to take back freedom.

    BTW, have you heard about the senators getting bricks through their windows and death threats that supported this bill passing?

    You can say "that is wrong" but honestly its about time Americans make their representatives "represent or cease to be in that position". You cannot get a politician to vote change his mind less it is with mass amounts of money or the risk of his own blood...

    Most Americans dont have mass amounts of money. I think the math is starting to show.

    BTW alot of rumors about states starting to "reject" federal things such as this Bill, and other issues. The federal government has become unconstitutional and therefore is no longer protected by the constitution. Hence it is actually a profiteering corporation controlling us through the threat of death or fines.

    And again though things I wont repeat on here, but more and more people are getting to the "Sons of Liberty" and "minuteman" point. And when you think about it, as long as an entire state goes that route, the National Guard for that state goes that route(family, friends, hell they will definitely choose them over Obama). Thus making such a thing very possible should 3-5 states make this choice, the federal government is literally "powerless" because the more soldiers I know, the more they tell me they hate it and they would never fire on a fellow soldier or American even as a direct order.

    Its really not a process of "If" but "When".

    Of course this is all theory existing on the sole requirement that our federal government be an evil corporation with no interest in the welfare of its people at which point no man can argue against this without being a coward or paid off....

    Yet Obamas "Internet Security Act of 2010" or whatever, as well as the patriot act, and other such things exist solely to be ready for this, to make men and women dissatisfy at night, or for "muggings to go wrong" or for them to get into a car wreck or overdose or...wait wasnt there other organizations that did this...I duno gepetto, gastro...no... ah!Gestapo!

    Everything we say is logged and we are placed on a "risk scale". Hence why "lowjack, and non-technology based comms are becoming popular. Nothing like a well trained carrier pigeon...
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by madds87 View Post
    They say a bullet cant fix things.......
    Whether people say stuff like this are serious or saying it tongue-in-cheek, this is not the proper way to make our side of this argument. If you want to help push the liberal agenda, say stuff like this. Now you become the "crazy right winger" and that becomes the issue....that is the news story, not the the government take over of health care.

    Keep in mind guys that idiots(from a political-historical standpoint))choose all of our politicians. The so called "indy's" and "moderates" are the majority. These are the folks who get a little bit of news, respond to drivel such as "Change We Can Believe In" and vote on whats trendy. Like it or not, whatever they're persuaded of comes true.

    So look at it from this perspective: Do we make a better argument saying stuff like "bullets can fix things" and we should "succeed and make our own country"(which yes, in a fantasy world I would love), or will we bring more people to our side by having an intellegent, articulate debate that shows how having too much government will diminish our liberty?

  4. ^^^ maybe?.....

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Zero V View Post
    My motto...

    Though we are still in a period of time where the "illusion" of changing things through voting exists, the time is rapidly coming where people realize there really is only one way to take back freedom.

    BTW, have you heard about the senators getting bricks through their windows and death threats that supported this bill passing?

    You can say "that is wrong" but honestly its about time Americans make their representatives "represent or cease to be in that position". You cannot get a politician to vote change his mind less it is with mass amounts of money or the risk of his own blood...

    Most Americans dont have mass amounts of money. I think the math is starting to show.

    BTW alot of rumors about states starting to "reject" federal things such as this Bill, and other issues. The federal government has become unconstitutional and therefore is no longer protected by the constitution. Hence it is actually a profiteering corporation controlling us through the threat of death or fines.

    And again though things I wont repeat on here, but more and more people are getting to the "Sons of Liberty" and "minuteman" point. And when you think about it, as long as an entire state goes that route, the National Guard for that state goes that route(family, friends, hell they will definitely choose them over Obama). Thus making such a thing very possible should 3-5 states make this choice, the federal government is literally "powerless" because the more soldiers I know, the more they tell me they hate it and they would never fire on a fellow soldier or American even as a direct order.

    Its really not a process of "If" but "When".

    Of course this is all theory existing on the sole requirement that our federal government be an evil corporation with no interest in the welfare of its people at which point no man can argue against this without being a coward or paid off....

    Yet Obamas "Internet Security Act of 2010" or whatever, as well as the patriot act, and other such things exist solely to be ready for this, to make men and women dissatisfy at night, or for "muggings to go wrong" or for them to get into a car wreck or overdose or...wait wasnt there other organizations that did this...I duno gepetto, gastro...no... ah!Gestapo!

    Everything we say is logged and we are placed on a "risk scale". Hence why "lowjack, and non-technology based comms are becoming popular. Nothing like a well trained carrier pigeon...
    From your posts, you seem to have a very romanticized view of how America was. It wasn't.

    Perhaps you should take a few courses examining American history from an unbiased viewpoint.

    Also, we are not a democracy. That would be a terrible idea. I think our current political system sucks, but I can't think of any that would be a whole lot better. I think capitalism kind of sucks too, but it's definitely better than the other options.

    It's a cold, cutthroat world and it always has been. Our country has really never been about freedom and never will be. That's just a romantic fantasy.

    Your gonna need to learn to accept and love America just how she is (I do) if you want to be successful (or you can devote your entire life to trying to change it... or leave).
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  6. Lets get to the bottom of this healthcare crisis. Fat people. Obesity, as the political corrects call it, is on the rise. This is the main cause for healthcare going up. How many overweight smokers do you guys work with? I work with many. They are on high blood pressure medication, high cholesteral meds and borderline diabetes medication. And it's all brought on by their own choices. Now my healthcare costs will go up to help these people continue with their bad choices. My healthcare costs were going up already because more and more people are getting to this point. And dont blame genetics. You can overcome genetics with proper diet and exercise. I have bad genetics too. When does personal responsibility kick in? Ok. I'd better stop now, probabably pissed off some fellow bodybuilders.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by wontstop985 View Post
    From your posts, you seem to have a very romanticized view of how America was. It wasn't.

    Perhaps you should take a few courses examining American history from an unbiased viewpoint.

    Also, we are not a democracy. That would be a terrible idea. I think our current political system sucks, but I can't think of any that would be a whole lot better. I think capitalism kind of sucks too, but it's definitely better than the other options.

    It's a cold, cutthroat world and it always has been. Our country has really never been about freedom and never will be. That's just a romantic fantasy.

    Your gonna need to learn to accept and love America just how she is (I do) if you want to be successful (or you can devote your entire life to trying to change it... or leave).
    Probably becoming a career missionary myself down the road. Man so many amazing things, and people who really do care.

    I do admit I follow the more "romanticist" approach to things and impassion them more than normal people. That is the type of person I am, and it is also why I am creative, and it is also why people keep asking me to write a book lol. But truth is, America used to be alot better. And truth is, every country MUST fall and be rebuilt anew, or else it becomes a prison and not a nation. Every country will fall, none shall last forever. Its impossible. It may simply be our time to "shed our skin".

    More and more Americans are starting to talk about revolution down the road(even the most conservative onces). Senators are getting death threats and bricks in the windows, we have some states that are suing the federal over the way this bill is set up. I mean more and more rights are stripped, our schooling is so damn pitiful now, the average person has less moral fiber than someone from 60 years ago.

    Overweight people, capitalism has ultimately deadlocked and ruined our economy. Next your going to start seeing bank owners and CEO's getting popped left and right, major corporations who treat employees like crap will be torn apart. You know one thousand men, with the proper knowledge, a passion and dedication, could change this nation forever. Using bullets... and maybe some explosives and the likes.

    There are dreamers, then there are those who simply have their eyes closed to no benefit. I will be honest, I am a writer, and can actually say I get many people who are encouraging me to write novels, or one guy just wants a written history of my quotes lol. I suffer from a slight detachment of reality as someone who suffers from the "artist condition" as in we dont think right, we dont see things right, and we never feel right. Many things I post on here are of an idealistic world. That is because I believe anything can be achieved.

    Yes men are wicked, and corrupt. But look at what we have built out of the good in us. We can accomplish far more than we know if we unite. Sadly, we are being united only under false pretenses and for the wrong reasons. And eventually we will face the one world order issue. We already know mankinds physical existence will come to a complete end. I am just wondering fully how it will.

    I love America, America is great. Even the poor can play xbox 360 and have food, and even if the house is ugly, its alot better than a shack made out of sheet metal. It has some nice backup systems(I myself am getting ready to use one, and some of you know which once). We have many programs to help the needy, we do have some great people as well here.

    Its just the sheer "chain of obedience" you have to bend to in concordance with the federal governments will. I believe a good man should be just as capable as killing a man as he is as tending to his injuries and caring for him. Some times killing someone will benefit the world as a whole, and sometime treating or aiding a person will bring the better benefit. Its facts, but here that doesnt apply at the moment.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by wastedwhiteboy2 View Post
    Lets get to the bottom of this healthcare crisis. Fat people. Obesity, as the political corrects call it, is on the rise. This is the main cause for healthcare going up. How many overweight smokers do you guys work with? I work with many. They are on high blood pressure medication, high cholesteral meds and borderline diabetes medication. And it's all brought on by their own choices. Now my healthcare costs will go up to help these people continue with their bad choices. My healthcare costs were going up already because more and more people are getting to this point. And dont blame genetics. You can overcome genetics with proper diet and exercise. I have bad genetics too. When does personal responsibility kick in? Ok. I'd better stop now, probabably pissed off some fellow bodybuilders.
    This is a misconception that is strongly propagated by the left. The predominant stress on the system right now is baby boomers aging, and not dying. One of the largest population booms in the US is now along in age, and the required healthcare is quite astronomical. The obesity "Crisis" is more of a red herring to push along an agenda... ie taxing only certain food and drink.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    This is a misconception that is strongly propagated by the left. The predominant stress on the system right now is baby boomers aging, and not dying. One of the largest population booms in the US is now along in age, and the required healthcare is quite astronomical. The obesity "Crisis" is more of a red herring to push along an agenda... ie taxing only certain food and drink.
    This is true and it sucks. Taxes on bullcrap stuff like soft drinks and cigs etc etc it does not bother me. Im happy for that stuff to be taxed honestly.

    But it was funny i was walking to the store and i over heard some place saying that cigs are 6bucks a pack i was like whoa!!!!! thats rediculous! im glad i quit smoking! id be broke lol

  10. Quote Originally Posted by lennoxchi View Post
    then add another 20% BEFORE TAXES taken out for child support....$555.70 per month. and people ask why i don'town a house yet
    I hear that. Im 21 almost paying that much for my child support. FML

  11. Quote Originally Posted by cmc View Post
    Ditto again. Nothing makes me more sick than those who ride the system for meds and what ever money they can get when they are more than able to work. Yet they spend their "free" money on cigarettes, drugs, booze, wine and complain some more about how broke they are yet continue to ride the system. These people are just another big part of the problem. They should have a "Trash Bill" for derelicts like these.
    I know people who work in the summer and then file for unemployment in the winter...They think they're beating the system or something. I don't even have to pay taxes yet and it pisses me off.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    This is a misconception that is strongly propagated by the left. The predominant stress on the system right now is baby boomers aging, and not dying. One of the largest population booms in the US is now along in age, and the required healthcare is quite astronomical. The obesity "Crisis" is more of a red herring to push along an agenda... ie taxing only certain food and drink.
    so as life expectancy increases, people get more in Social Security than they ever put in, so it depletes the pool for everyone?

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Jurassic View Post
    so as life expectancy increases, people get more in Social Security than they ever put in, so it depletes the pool for everyone?
    It is not a life expectancy issue. It is because there is now a disproportionate large population of older people because of the spike in birth rate after WW II (baby boomers). Since today's tax revenues pay for today's healthcare they are stressing the system because the taxable workforce is disproportionately small.

    Each boomer probably paid his/her part into the pool but the governments at the time probably spent the money on other stuff or gave tax breaks instead of ear-marking the money for healthcare 30+ years down the road.

    Anyways, the aging boomers are part of the problem but the NA lifestyle today is dogsh!t compared to 30+ years ago. This is also having its toll on the system.
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