Teleprompter vs hand notes.. LOL

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  1. regardless of party, there is no one out there who really offers anything that people want. Sure, many bought into Obama, and many are buying into Palin, but I dont think either one is a solution. There is just so few options sadly.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    regardless of party, there is no one out there who really offers anything that people want. Sure, many bought into Obama, and many are buying into Palin, but I dont think either one is a solution. There is just so few options sadly.
    I voted Ron Paul.... you know where that man stands, he definitely pulls no punches. I may not agree with everything he stands on, but I will never get that out of a politician.
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  3. Adams, have you read Ron Paul's "The Revolution: A Manifesto?" It made me a big fan of his. Like you, I don't agree with 100% of what he says, but he's definitely on the right track.

    AE, I will agree that Palin had some bad interviews during the campaign that hurt her. I also think she was kept on a very tight leash by the McCain Machine. But, in her defense, do you think Joe-freakin'-Bidden is any better??? Come on, this guy is a complete moron. He doesn't know if he's coming or going.

    And I'm going to throw my two cents in on Reagan as well...best president in my lifetime thus far. I don't understand why it's such a bad thing that he's the standard by which we judge others in the same office. He was a good president and a good man. Where's the downside?

  4. I love how you guys throw around words like idiot, moron, jack ass, etc. and none of you have accomplished anything close. We just went through 8 years of Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy (Cheny, Bush) with some of the most personal liberty threatening policies ever. btw, how did that strategery work out


    I have always said that Ronald Regan was the most effective President that i have witnessed. I didn't agree with a lot of what he did but, the fact is he got what he wanted done even if he had to get shot to do it. Things have changed and the world has changed dramatically in since that time and a lot of the things we are dealing with today are a result of his "effectiveness" or Nancy's determination (take that how ever you wish). All politicians are full of crap even Ron Paul. Let him become a serious candidate and you'll see how full of crap he is and how those ideas of his fall by the wayside as he gets weighed down by reality.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Fastone View Post
    I love how you guys throw around words like idiot, moron, jack ass, etc. and none of you have accomplished anything close. We just went through 8 years of Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy (Cheny, Bush) with some of the most personal liberty threatening policies ever. btw, how did that strategery work out


    I have always said that Ronald Regan was the most effective President that i have witnessed. I didn't agree with a lot of what he did but, the fact is he got what he wanted done even if he had to get shot to do it. Things have changed and the world has changed dramatically in since that time and a lot of the things we are dealing with today are a result of his "effectiveness" or Nancy's determination (take that how ever you wish). All politicians are full of crap even Ron Paul. Let him become a serious candidate and you'll see how full of crap he is and how those ideas of his fall by the wayside as he gets weighed down by reality.

    OH NO... The sky is falling.

    Still playing the blame game I see.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    OH NO... The sky is falling.

    Still playing the blame game I see.
    The sky isn't falling, if you look at the progression of things since I was a teenager (in the dark ages), The sky fell a long time ago. My point it that it's hard to get out of **** when the toilet was clogged before you got there. Frankly I'm sick of all of the back and forth and I've been at this when the most important thing to most of you was Mario getting coins

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Fastone View Post
    The sky isn't falling, if you look at the progression of things since I was a teenager (in the dark ages), The sky fell a long time ago. My point it that it's hard to get out of **** when the toilet was clogged before you got there. Frankly I'm sick of all of the back and forth and I've been at this when the most important thing to most of you was Mario getting coins
    regardless of the age differential, the oval office has been a septic tanks for decades and unfortunately that is not changing in my lifetime, or anyone elses here. Regardless of Ron Paul, Rand Paul, or even me the system as is has failed and we have let it happen.

    I agree....the sky isnt falling, that happened a long time ago

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Fastone View Post
    The sky isn't falling, if you look at the progression of things since I was a teenager (in the dark ages), The sky fell a long time ago. My point it that it's hard to get out of **** when the toilet was clogged before you got there. Frankly I'm sick of all of the back and forth and I've been at this when the most important thing to most of you was Mario getting coins
    Well, if that is the case... then I really hope that type of bitterness doesn't set in when I get that old.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by Fastone View Post
    I love how you guys throw around words like idiot, moron, jack ass, etc. and none of you have accomplished anything close. We just went through 8 years of Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy (Cheny, Bush) with some of the most personal liberty threatening policies ever. btw, how did that strategery work out


    I have always said that Ronald Regan was the most effective President that i have witnessed. I didn't agree with a lot of what he did but, the fact is he got what he wanted done even if he had to get shot to do it. Things have changed and the world has changed dramatically in since that time and a lot of the things we are dealing with today are a result of his "effectiveness" or Nancy's determination (take that how ever you wish). All politicians are full of crap even Ron Paul. Let him become a serious candidate and you'll see how full of crap he is and how those ideas of his fall by the wayside as he gets weighed down by reality.
    Mr. Fastone,

    If I think someone is a moron, idiot, jackass, etc. regardless of their "achievements" in life, I'm going to call them a moron, idiot, jackass, etc. I don't think that someone's political office excludes them from being capable of being a tool, which I think Joe Biden soundly qualifies as.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    Well, if that is the case... then I really hope that type of bitterness doesn't set in when I get that old.
    I'm not really bitter just tired of the nonsense. I remember the "good old days" (which probably weren't as good as we thought, just a hell of a lot better than now) and I continue to hope that things will get better, maybe some of the crap we're going through now may lead to that. Contrary to what a lot of people nowadays think, we're still the best country in the world just not nearly as far and away and good as it could be.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Fastone View Post
    I'm not really bitter just tired of the nonsense. I remember the "good old days" (which probably weren't as good as we thought, just a hell of a lot better than now)
    no, you just had lower expectations then. Look at what a blue collar worker expected 40 years ago in terms of housing, furniture, electronics, luxury goods etc. Now the unskilled moron brigade thinks its their right to have laptops and cellphones and 3 car garages and etc etc etc even though they barely have a high school education.

  12. We're doomed! The zombie invasion has begun!

  13. Telepromter vs handnotes - well I would say President Obama is more dangerous without the Telepromter, just ask the republican house of representatives. I have never seen one guy make an entire party look like a bunch of school kids who just lost their lunch money, without the use of a telepromter. Let be realistic.... all presidents use telepromters because they have to deal with so many different topics and issues everyday. As for Sarah Palin and the hand notes, it doesn't surprise me at all. Let's be honest.... she is not the sharpest tool in the shed.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by chaser103 View Post
    Telepromter vs handnotes - well I would say President Obama is more dangerous without the Telepromter, just ask the republican house of representatives. I have never seen one guy make an entire party look like a bunch of school kids who just lost their lunch money, without the use of a telepromter. Let be realistic.... all presidents use telepromters because they have to deal with so many different topics and issues everyday. As for Sarah Palin and the hand notes, it doesn't surprise me at all. Let's be honest.... she is not the sharpest tool in the shed.
    Wow, that was very convincing logic you used there to make your point...

    Being c0cky and arrogant (Obama to GOP) does not make you correct on issues. As a matter of fact, he didn't do what he should have been there to do - LISTEN. Instead, the cameras were rolling (but we can't get CSPAN coverage of healthcare bill debates) and Obama wanted to project control over the GOP.

    As for Palin, no one says she should apply for admission to MENSA, but you just said yourself how "all presidents use teleprompters" (though many other presidents perferred not to use them and delivered speeches via paper notes or index cards). Then what's the difference between hand notes and teleprompters besides the teleprompter feeding you every word of the speech and with notes you have to ad-lib some?

  15. Quote Originally Posted by iron fists View Post
    Well the toilet was clogged and overflowing from the clinton era..but bush didnt play the blame game...reguardless of your vierw of him he still showed viable leadership triats the obama has not even attemted to show...responsibility and accountabillity..and mrs obama called barack a great leader becuase he stayed the course his first year..well bushe stayed the course for eight. if obama was a stripper he would be called an artist for it, but if bush was..he would be called a *********, well we all know. but that is the biggest problem with telepromotor obama that people cant stand...he has gotten a pass on everything.
    Yeah, right in your opinion

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Fastone View Post
    The sky isn't falling, if you look at the progression of things since I was a teenager (in the dark ages), The sky fell a long time ago. My point it that it's hard to get out of **** when the toilet was clogged before you got there. Frankly I'm sick of all of the back and forth and I've been at this when the most important thing to most of you was Mario getting coins
    Hey man, don't you disrespect one of the great heroes of my generation. If it weren't for Mario and Luigi you'd be up to your neck in goombas right now!

  17. Quote Originally Posted by iron fists View Post
    Well the toilet was clogged and overflowing from the clinton era..but bush didnt play the blame game...reguardless of your vierw of him he still showed viable leadership triats the obama has not even attemted to show...responsibility and accountabillity..and mrs obama called barack a great leader becuase he stayed the course his first year..well bushe stayed the course for eight. if obama was a stripper he would be called an artist for it, but if bush was..he would be called a *********, well we all know. but that is the biggest problem with telepromotor obama that people cant stand...he has gotten a pass on everything.
    not being pro either party here (as they both are awful) Bush and leadership skills? Kind of like Bush and public speaking skills

  18. I try not to get overly involved here with regards to politics, as discussing that is quite futile imo.

    However, you make a lot of very damning statements about a President who has been in office just over 1 year, but offer no evidence for any of it. Care to expand upon it?

  19. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tJjNVVwRCY"]YouTube- Bill O'Reilly Flips Out[/ame]




    BAHAHAHA!! F*UCKING THING SUCKS!!!

    make sure you watch until the very end for his little tantrum..

  20. Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    I try not to get overly involved here with regards to politics, as discussing that is quite futile imo.

    However, you make a lot of very damning statements about a President who has been in office just over 1 year, but offer no evidence for any of it. Care to expand upon it?
    +1.

    I've read a lot of dogma and rhetoric so far in this thread. Not to mention it looks like a corn field in here with the number of straw man arguements both sides are throwing up.

    To say Obama should've listened at the GOP when the republicans have flatly refused to state a viable position on something like healthcare (Under the infinitely questionable, "It's a trap" defense) and when the healthcare issue has been derailed by people who fail to see the irony in comparing Obama to Hitler (A fascist, that's an ultra right wing form of government for those who are hard of thinking) while at the same time saying his goals are deeply rooted in Marxism and socialist mythology (Which is a left wing form of government) and throwing around ridiculous notions of death panels and such while Glenn Beck cries because he "loves his country but he's afraid" in order to ensure that YOUR tax dollars are paying every politician in the country to achieve exactly **** for the next 3 plus years demonstrates your political leanings and nothing else.

    If I was a US tax payer like you guys I would be absolutely LIVID at the whole ****ing lot of them. They are all just as useless as each other. No exceptions.

    **** the tea party and their left wing equivalents who are only interested in grinding their own axe while ignoring the realities of life for so many americans. You should all be holding your individual senators and congressmen to task regardless of their political affiliation for pissing the last 12 months away thumbing their noses at each other across large richly appointed rooms while your industry, financial sector and economy burn down around their ears.

    There are much bigger issues at play in the US now than whether there's a red guy or a blue guy in the round room. You need your government to start governing.

    That's my buck-o-five.

  21. Palin is a moron... Regardless of notes or teleprompter debates, she does not belong on the political scene just because she has a certain point of view. She has no idea how anything works outside of those views and proves to be very ignorant.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Vance View Post
    +1.

    I've read a lot of dogma and rhetoric so far in this thread. Not to mention it looks like a corn field in here with the number of straw man arguements both sides are throwing up.

    To say Obama should've listened at the GOP when the republicans have flatly refused to state a viable position on something like healthcare (Under the infinitely questionable, "It's a trap" defense) and when the healthcare issue has been derailed by people who fail to see the irony in comparing Obama to Hitler (A fascist, that's an ultra right wing form of government for those who are hard of thinking) while at the same time saying his goals are deeply rooted in Marxism and socialist mythology (Which is a left wing form of government) and throwing around ridiculous notions of death panels and such while Glenn Beck cries because he "loves his country but he's afraid" in order to ensure that YOUR tax dollars are paying every politician in the country to achieve exactly **** for the next 3 plus years demonstrates your political leanings and nothing else.

    If I was a US tax payer like you guys I would be absolutely LIVID at the whole ****ing lot of them. They are all just as useless as each other. No exceptions.

    **** the tea party and their left wing equivalents who are only interested in grinding their own axe while ignoring the realities of life for so many americans. You should all be holding your individual senators and congressmen to task regardless of their political affiliation for pissing the last 12 months away thumbing their noses at each other across large richly appointed rooms while your industry, financial sector and economy burn down around their ears.

    There are much bigger issues at play in the US now than whether there's a red guy or a blue guy in the round room. You need your government to start governing.

    That's my buck-o-five.

    Couldnt agree more. To be so blinded by party affiliation at this point is ludicrous. At the end of the day, the fools in DC are all to blame regardless of what color tie they wear

  23. Quote Originally Posted by buuzer0 View Post
    Hey man, don't you disrespect one of the great heroes of my generation. If it weren't for Mario and Luigi you'd be up to your neck in goombas right now!

    Hahahahaha, good point

  24. Quote Originally Posted by iron fists View Post
    Yeah ..he had those traits of leadership...i never said he was a great leader..but i compared the leadership qualities he showed to obamas lack of leadership qualities. yeah and bush and public speaking skills is like obama and honesty, or obama and transparency, or obama and liberty..patriotism, or or obama and evethying he is doing..lol..but dont confuse obama as a good public speaker..but better yet as a good public reader, well atleast when he doesnt read other spaekers telepromtor lines and thanking himself(which as egotistical as he is, with his arrogance he probably does wana thank himself,)
    Please, GWB's so called leadership skills consisted of Cheny's hand up his ass like Edgar Bergen's was up Charlie McCarthy.

  25. All the way from the east to the west
    We've got this high society looking down on this very foundation
    Constantly reminding us that our actions are the cause of all their problems
    Pointing the fingers in every direction
    Blaming their own nation for who wins elections
    They've never contributed a ****ing thing to the country they love to criticize
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