Teleprompter vs hand notes.. LOL
- 02-10-2010, 01:49 PM
- 02-10-2010, 01:55 PM
I agree....the sky isnt falling, that happened a long time ago
02-10-2010, 02:15 PM
02-10-2010, 02:19 PM
If I think someone is a moron, idiot, jackass, etc. regardless of their "achievements" in life, I'm going to call them a moron, idiot, jackass, etc. I don't think that someone's political office excludes them from being capable of being a tool, which I think Joe Biden soundly qualifies as.
02-10-2010, 02:46 PM
02-10-2010, 02:57 PM
02-10-2010, 08:15 PM
02-18-2010, 05:23 AM
Telepromter vs handnotes - well I would say President Obama is more dangerous without the Telepromter, just ask the republican house of representatives. I have never seen one guy make an entire party look like a bunch of school kids who just lost their lunch money, without the use of a telepromter. Let be realistic.... all presidents use telepromters because they have to deal with so many different topics and issues everyday. As for Sarah Palin and the hand notes, it doesn't surprise me at all. Let's be honest.... she is not the sharpest tool in the shed.
02-18-2010, 08:47 AM
Being c0cky and arrogant (Obama to GOP) does not make you correct on issues. As a matter of fact, he didn't do what he should have been there to do - LISTEN. Instead, the cameras were rolling (but we can't get CSPAN coverage of healthcare bill debates) and Obama wanted to project control over the GOP.
As for Palin, no one says she should apply for admission to MENSA, but you just said yourself how "all presidents use teleprompters" (though many other presidents perferred not to use them and delivered speeches via paper notes or index cards). Then what's the difference between hand notes and teleprompters besides the teleprompter feeding you every word of the speech and with notes you have to ad-lib some?
02-19-2010, 02:03 AM
02-19-2010, 09:23 AM
02-19-2010, 09:47 AM
02-19-2010, 11:44 AM
I try not to get overly involved here with regards to politics, as discussing that is quite futile imo.
However, you make a lot of very damning statements about a President who has been in office just over 1 year, but offer no evidence for any of it. Care to expand upon it?
02-19-2010, 11:53 AM
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tJjNVVwRCY"]YouTube- Bill O'Reilly Flips Out[/ame]
BAHAHAHA!! F*UCKING THING SUCKS!!!
make sure you watch until the very end for his little tantrum..
02-19-2010, 12:09 PM
I've read a lot of dogma and rhetoric so far in this thread. Not to mention it looks like a corn field in here with the number of straw man arguements both sides are throwing up.
To say Obama should've listened at the GOP when the republicans have flatly refused to state a viable position on something like healthcare (Under the infinitely questionable, "It's a trap" defense) and when the healthcare issue has been derailed by people who fail to see the irony in comparing Obama to Hitler (A fascist, that's an ultra right wing form of government for those who are hard of thinking) while at the same time saying his goals are deeply rooted in Marxism and socialist mythology (Which is a left wing form of government) and throwing around ridiculous notions of death panels and such while Glenn Beck cries because he "loves his country but he's afraid" in order to ensure that YOUR tax dollars are paying every politician in the country to achieve exactly **** for the next 3 plus years demonstrates your political leanings and nothing else.
If I was a US tax payer like you guys I would be absolutely LIVID at the whole ****ing lot of them. They are all just as useless as each other. No exceptions.
**** the tea party and their left wing equivalents who are only interested in grinding their own axe while ignoring the realities of life for so many americans. You should all be holding your individual senators and congressmen to task regardless of their political affiliation for pissing the last 12 months away thumbing their noses at each other across large richly appointed rooms while your industry, financial sector and economy burn down around their ears.
There are much bigger issues at play in the US now than whether there's a red guy or a blue guy in the round room. You need your government to start governing.
That's my buck-o-five.
02-19-2010, 12:16 PM
Palin is a moron... Regardless of notes or teleprompter debates, she does not belong on the political scene just because she has a certain point of view. She has no idea how anything works outside of those views and proves to be very ignorant.
02-19-2010, 01:16 PM
02-19-2010, 02:21 PM
02-19-2010, 02:26 PM
02-19-2010, 02:29 PM
All the way from the east to the west
We've got this high society looking down on this very foundation
Constantly reminding us that our actions are the cause of all their problems
Pointing the fingers in every direction
Blaming their own nation for who wins elections
They've never contributed a ****ing thing to the country they love to criticize
The Historic PES Legend
02-19-2010, 03:45 PM
No liberal politicians are every wrong, as wrong or even more wrong than a conservative one? I don't care which side of the line you stand on, the end result is the same. Just because someone believes in some issues as you do, it in no way gives insight into who they really are... Doesn't even, for the most part, even prove they actually believe in what they run on.
02-19-2010, 11:24 PM
Reforming healthcare in the US is about creating a system where a country who's healthcare system looks for every last **** in the room to suck (And it does) and yet costs more than any other healthcare system in the world (When many others work much, much better) is changed to cost *less* and deliver better outcomes. That isn't marxist, it's ****ing common sense. A public option isn't socialism, it's government by the people for the people. Something that people in the US don't seem to want (But more importantly understand) anymore. Next time someone uses the term "Marxist" to you, ask them what it means. Dollars to donuts they don't know, they don't know who Marx was and they haven't read any of his writings.
Seriously man, stop waiting for Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly to tell you what to think.
02-20-2010, 03:07 PM
02-20-2010, 07:35 PM
It's interesting you mention the unnecessary spending and flying to hawaii considering the RNC just had their convention in Hawaii
02-21-2010, 01:39 AM
Your assertion that the economy wasn't in ruins when Obama took over demonstrates that you know absolutely nothing about what you are talking about. You saying about 'counting jobs that weren't directly related to the stimulus as new jobs blah blah' again clearly demonstrates you have no understanding of how the economy impacts upon employment. In your little hotdog stand example, yes the stimulus did help that happen, unless you're talking about the only hotdog stand owner in the US without a shred of personal or business related debt. If the banks couldn't have leant the owner the money to start the business there would be no hotdog stand and ultimately no jobs.
Your assertion that the US healthcare system is good demonstrates only that you know nothing about that either. The US currently has a healthcare system built on a foundation of trying to find ways out of fixing people - at the maximum possible cost.
I don't say any of the above to beat up on you mate, only to really sincerely recommend that you go away and do some research on these things, irrespective of your political leanings. Facts are facts regardless of who's talking.
Like Josh just said, the republicans flew to Hawaii recently too, and you as a guy who was banging the drum about 'not praising one politican for one thing while damning another for the exact same thing' is just as guilty as anyone else is in doing just that.
02-21-2010, 07:50 PM
Did the RNC tell everyone to tighten their belts? Are you serious? LOL... One of the main things republicans are against is wastefull spending and are ALWAYS preaching to people to tighten their belts. I think it is the RNC motto.. LOL
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance." - Socrates
02-21-2010, 09:10 PM
02-21-2010, 09:15 PM
As for the economy in ruins, that began all the way back to carter with the CRA, and given new legs by Clinton, and completely ignored by Bush, and now exacerbated by Obama.
The Historic PES Legend
02-21-2010, 09:29 PM
02-21-2010, 10:29 PM
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