So my live-in girlfriend's older sister came home for Christmas...
- 12-28-2009, 08:55 AM
Also please recheck your facts about quality of care and quit pulling your data from the socialized biased WHO.The Historic PES Legend
- 12-28-2009, 10:01 AM
The US has a lower life expectancy because we have a greater tendency to do stupid ****, like bunji jump or drive exceedingly fast, things which have no relevance to the quality of healthcare. We also bring a hell of a lot more problematic pregnancies to term because of our aversion to abortion and because our healthcare system allows for the birth of kids who would otherwise be still born or miscarraiges elsewhere, which contributes to a higher infant mortality in the US because of better healthcare. And we've managed to do all that in spite of a largely socialized single payer/third party corporate sponsored payment system.
12-28-2009, 10:20 AM
12-28-2009, 10:56 AM
This just reminds me why I never bring up politics! Nice mid-thread aside CrazyChemist btw.
12-28-2009, 11:22 AM
12-28-2009, 01:55 PM
I had a small thing like this with a legal alein at my work. He told me he didnt like McCain because all McCain wanted to help is rich people. I asked him who payed the vast majority of taxes in this country. He said everyone. I explained the rich pay practically all the taxes and then I asked what have the poor done to deserve help? He said, but the rich dont need it and should pay more! I asked him if the place we worked should let the poor people pay less since they have less money. If we should give the poor people that walk in 20% off just for being poor. He didnt know what to say and I walked off. The only reason poor people get anything is their vote is equal to a rich persons.
That said, Ive talked to girls before and had them add me on some social networking site and see my views as conservative and some pages like Vote GOP Texas etc and stop talking to me all together. Tolerance at its finest.
12-28-2009, 01:57 PM
12-28-2009, 02:08 PM
I think I need to take a trip up north lol. The things I couldnt stand about Canada would be the cold, crazy prices on supps limitations, and health care.
12-28-2009, 03:59 PM
I actually plan to gain enough weight that I qualify as my own nation. Any who want can then colonize me, and as a God out of the machine I will enforce a strict hands off, libertarian ideal. I can't wait to see who homesteads my ass.
12-29-2009, 11:26 AM
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12-29-2009, 08:31 PM
But yeah jay, its like most of the hyper-liberals, they have no clue because they've never really had to work, never really had to struggle and never have to live by their own rules. Sure Ted Kennedy fought for healthcare, but like he ever had to work a day in his life?
It seems like the more liberal they are, the less they understand math, which is why they like universal health care. The health care bill limits the amount of premiums that can go towards administrative costs and guess what? Most of the major insurance companies already have their admin costs as low as half that. So that means they won't have to change policies, their profit won't go down, and what they charge won't go down either. Not exactly a win for the public, as now it allows them to actually charge more to get a higher profit, and still fall into government guidelines. Plus with the changes to the care they have to provide, it will raise premiums even more.
If the government raised minimum wage to $25/hr, what would happen? Prices on the McDonalds menu would go up 50-100%, the price of gas and soda and haircuts and everything else would go up by by significant amounts, and after part of that new money goes to taxes the people who were making minimum wage wouldn't be significantly better off, but the people who used to make $29/hr would be screwed.
12-29-2009, 08:31 PM
12-29-2009, 08:35 PM
this bottle of tequila is 46 pounds in the UK (around 73 USD)
but 34 US dollars in the US
So you are paying for it you just don't realize it.
12-30-2009, 12:15 AM
I just want to see all the politicians get in the gym and pick up some weights. Maybe if everyone had 'legs' day, our pride in being right would take a bow and some solutions could be found.
Arnold for president haha
12-30-2009, 07:24 AM
What you're really saying is you're okay with the government forcing other people to buy **** for you. Which is a point of view I guess, but trying to hide it behind BS strikes me as a bit disingenuous.
12-30-2009, 07:37 AM
12-30-2009, 08:45 AM
I told my girlfriend after the second argument that I can't stand her sister and I hope that isn't a problem for us. She basically said no big deal, it's not like she had been treated any better by her...
I mean, she did ask her when we were moving into a 'better place'. Although she's only lived on her own twice and both times were with a roomate and short lived due to finances not being handled properly.
12-30-2009, 09:20 PM
Jay I loved this post. Made me laugh big time. I feel sorry for you during the holidays now! LOL
My brothers wife is very liberal like this and the same sort of things happens when they come in (they live in St Louis and we are in NC). Bad thing is, my brother is just like her now. And the rest of the family can be considered rather conservative.
12-30-2009, 09:41 PM
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