Copenhagen Agreement

[NattyT]

Some of you guys that like to keep up on current news might like to research this topic, also check out Globalclimatescame.com.

This cap and trade bill is somthing else that will change our lives forever and is on the agenda to be signed this December, this will begin to set up the one world goverment that been looked at as if it were a fairy tail. Looks real to me. God help us.

 

[NattyT]

IM suprised hat no one has anything to add on this subject, I feel it is very seriouse that this treaty that is going to be signed will unite us with the rest of the world and there politics.

I dont know how to post a you tube video on here but if any one visits the global climate scam web site there is a 4:13 video that is very good and explains what this is about if some one could post this it would be good.

 

[NattyT]

The health care is just a tool to overshadow this cap and trade treaty, im not surprised that the SWINE FLU poped up all a sudden when health care became such a big issue, exspecially at a time when millions are out of work and dont have insurance any more. Swine flu is on the news non stop to invoke fear into the public but no one and I mean no one is talking about this issue. the media is under the sway of the governing powers anyway.

 

[GuyverX]

The health care is just a tool to overshadow this cap and trade treaty, im not surprised that the SWINE FLU poped up all a sudden when health care became such a big issue, exspecially at a time when millions are out of work and dont have insurance any more. Swine flu is on the news non stop to invoke fear into the public but no one and I mean no one is talking about this issue. the media is under the sway of the governing powers anyway.

Bait and switch.
Magician's left hand.
Oldest trick in the book.
Let's manufacture something so people will look the other way and then we get them.

Its been coming for a long time.
And Machiavelli and Greene both explain it pretty well in their respective books.

As an old cliche goes
"Just because you are paranoid does not mean someone isnt watching you"

 

[mikkel4700]

hey my english is not the best. can´t really read if you guys are against or pro public health care.

 

[luclyluciano]

You know what's really SCARY! SHEEPLE who FALL for these conspiracy myths. How can you be so gullible to believe to believe in one Govt or one Religeon with so much divisiveness and religeous based wars. How can you believe contries or religions can ever agree and get along. Stop the pollyana!

 

[Bionic]

Who would've thought there would be a European Union and a new currency (the Euro)? Who would've thought that our own President is ALL ABOUT this type of ONE WORLD GOVERNANCE? Why would you mock people for not drinking the Kool Aid. Ever consider that you don't have it all figured out?

World Order in the 21st Century

The CFR started a program in 2008 to last for 5 years called "International Institutions and Global Governance: World Order in the 21st Century" which aims in setting up global institutions in different levels to foster a global governance, in order to tackle different trans-national problems[16]
Countering Transnational Threats, including terrorism, proliferation of WMD, and infectious disease
Protecting the Environment and Promoting Energy Security
Managing the Global Economy
Preventing and Responding to Violent Conflict
In August 2009, the Obama Administration urged cooperation with UN to tackle the same points covered by CFR plan's. "The Obama administration will work with the United Nations to fight terrorism and other major world challenges...like nuclear programs of Iran and North Korea, the global financial crisis, wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, pandemics and global warming."[17]
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[NattyT]

well lucly the proof is there and all you have to do is look at it. The greatesst quote from a movie said this.
"The greatest trick the devil ever did was making people belive he didnt exist".

I feel more sorry for those people that belive these type of things dont exist and happen. One of humanities biggest downfall is pride, we belive and act as if we know so much but we realy dont know much at all.















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[dragonfly]

well lucly the proof is there and all you have to do is look at it. The greatesst quote from a movie said this.
"The greatest trick the devil ever did was making people belive he didnt exist".

I feel more sorry for those people that belive these type of things dont exist and happen. One of humanities biggest downfall is pride, we belive and act as if we know so much but we realy dont know much at all.

I agree with you 100%

 

[youngandfree]

How will the recent leaks of British scientists' emails detailing the cover up and fraud that is known as "climate change" and "global warming?"

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/21/ap/world/main5727910.shtml?tag=contentMain;contentBody

http://thenewamerican.com/index.php/tech-mainmenu-30/environment/2377-ipcc-researchers-admit-global-warming-fraud

http://www.jbs.org/jbs-news-feed/5677-global-warming-fraud-unmasked

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180.shtml?tag=contentMain;contentBody

 

[Jayhawkk]

They'll ignore them like they are doing.

 

[NattyT]

Those people will probally come up missing for leaking that info, and like jay hawk said it will change absolutely nothing. The majority of america is spoon fed with the lies that the goverment feeds them and dont ever question what it is that there swollowing.

Fear is a major weapon in manipulation, the media pushes swine flu, global climate change, 2012, war, terrorism food born illnesses and all kind of other things to keep people dependent on them so when the mess hits the fan they will go running to them to be saved and will take on there new belifs and order. NWO, its not a game!

 

[dragonfly]

Those people will probally come up missing for leaking that info, and like jay hawk said it will change absolutely nothing. The majority of america is spoon fed with the lies that the goverment feeds them and dont ever question what it is that there swollowing.

Fear is a major weapon in manipulation

Devil knows where to hit the weak.....

the media pushes swine flu, global climate change, 2012, war, terrorism food born illnesses and all kind of other things

....that is how he deceived the whole world

John 8:44

You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

2 Corinthians 4

In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

Revelation 12:9-10

And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. And I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, “Now the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ have come, for the accuser of our brothers has been thrown down, who accuses them day and night before our God.​

to keep people dependent on them so when the mess hits the fan they will go running to them to be saved and will take on there new belifs and order. NWO, its not a game!

Definitely not, it shall come to pass, like any Word that God has spoken through His prophets. One just needs to read the Bible....and yet people still keep looking for answers in all the wrong places.

Isaiah 47

13 All the counsel you have received has only worn you out!
Let your astrologers come forward,
those stargazers who make predictions month by month,
let them save you from what is coming upon you.

14 Surely they are like stubble;
the fire will burn them up.
They cannot even save themselves
from the power of the flame.
Here are no coals to warm anyone;
here is no fire to sit by.

15 That is all they can do for you—
these you have labored with
and trafficked with since childhood.
Each of them goes on in his error;
there is not one that can save you.


John 14

6Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Isaiah 55

6 Seek the LORD while he may be found;
call on him while he is near.

7 Let the wicked forsake his way
and the evil man his thoughts.
Let him turn to the LORD, and he will have mercy on him,
and to our God, for he will freely pardon.

8 "For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,"
declares the LORD.

9 "As the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts.

10 As the rain and the snow
come down from heaven,
and do not return to it
without watering the earth
and making it bud and flourish,
so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater,

11 so is my word that goes out from my mouth:
It will not return to me empty,
but will accomplish what I desire
and achieve the purpose for which I sent it.

Daniel 7:23

“Thus he said: ‘As for the fourth beast, there shall be a fourth kingdom on earth, which shall be different from all the kingdoms, and it shall devour the whole earth, and trample it down, and break it to pieces.​

 

[NattyT]

Right on point dragofly, He that has an ear let him hear.

 

[Jayhawkk]

DragonFly, quite honestly I think that is complete BS. You can pick 2 dozen points in history and apply those things...

 

[bioman]

LOL, wow.

Classic case of "My guy didn't get elected so let's run with Orwellian conspiracy theories."

One world govt or not, I will live the way I want to live...the way I always have.

 

[NattyT]

LOL, wow.

Classic case of "My guy didn't get elected so let's run with Orwellian conspiracy theories."

One world govt or not, I will live the way I want to live...the way I always have.

Its easy to say that when we have lived in a country that has allowed freedom and a constitution that allowed you to live how you have wanted. If the country takes on the communist attitude that the other nations do then it wont be that easy my freind. Money power and control, its nothing to them to take innocent lives and kill millions, its easier to control a smaller population anyway.

We need somthing greater then ourselves.

 

[TexasTitan]

Division of power is essential to preserving independence.

 

[bioman]

No, it's actually pretty easy to say that now and I think it will be that way for a long time. I've been a student of history for most of my life and mostly what I see is a lot fearful talk being thrown around with NO real facts to back them up. Communism this, Socialism that, we're all doomed if we don't revolt or whatever...seriously, show me some examples of how you're so badly oppressed, of how the crushing weight of Obama's yoke is breaking your back (and please, don't even try to use the banning of PH's as a legitimate example). How many jack booted thugs have kicked in your door lately? Until you can honestly answer that, this is simply a discussion of hypothetical scenarios.

 

[NattyT]

Its been a slow process, this just didnt start with Obama hes just the new pitch man. This has been decades if not centuries in the making. Im not big on conspiracy my self, but I do belive in prophecy and whatthe bible has said about events and things to come. Now when I line these up with some of the conspiracy theory that I have heard and have seen it just makes me stronger in my faith because the bible said it first.

Now to each its own some people choose to live in disbelif and some just choose to deny the truth and thats ok as for me thats a diffrent story. If you seek you will find and if you ask it shall be given.

The people that have the money the power and real wealth want it all, they want to run the world and have everything and that has been the goal of rulers and dictators since the world has exited. Now they understand that a few with the the money, and power can unite and make it happen, but this will still set up a system where one man can come and dominate.

 

[Bionic]

They have all the money they'll ever need. It's control that they want. They'll even make it so that you'll LOVE your captivity. It's been well established that Mr. Obama is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations who are trying to create the North American Union which would cause us to become one with Mexico and Canada and introduce the Amero. Our national sovereignty will be gone. It happened in Europe. One step closer to the NWO and the corporate/military structure. The fact that he "apologized" to the rest of the world for our "arrogance" should give you some insight to his real agenda.

 

[bioman]

So the proof you all offer is;


a) The Bible


and


b) The Council on Foreign Relations being the NWO.




Got it. I'll start building my bunker tonight after work.

Seriously, increased government or governance is a natural byproduct of an exponentially increasing population. All the talk and dreams of "small government" with fewer taxes runs smack into the reality that it costs a sh!t ton of money to build and maintain the infrastructure necessary for an additional billion people to live any kind of standard of living. Conspiracy? The conspiracy is Nature and Man conspiring to do what we have evolved to do...breed and fill up every available habitat on Earth until there is no more. Only a collective, rational agreement on the part of all mankind(yeah, right) to drastically slow our reproductive rate will get at the heart of matter.

Till then, I just laugh when I hear people pine over small government and lower taxes while they pump out more kids that create more problems that need more governance. Can't have your cake and eat it too.

 

[NattyT]

I dont speak for all but for me yes the bible is my manuel for living and life. Its is very prophetic and tells of events that have happend and that are to come. Now most that dont agree or belive in the Holy Bible will say those prophecies can apply to so many diffrent situations but people will twist and manipulate the bible to say what they want. Just like a rapist that says that she wanted it, in his mind he realy belive that but the oter party see's it in a different light.

People choose not to look at the truth because they cant belive that everything they belived in or thought was real was a total lie. They choose to belive the lie because its much harder to cope with accepting the truth rather it be religon or a corrupt world system. when the average person with no hope or anything to belive in besides there job, money and way of life looses it all they look at there goverment or presednt to take car of them, this is the reasonthe economy is where it is. The federal reserve planed this and allowed it to happen so that they could seize control of all the major banks and in the future combine it into one world bank.

As far as the population having somthing to do with our problem is a lie just like global warming is, some one dies every 5-8 seconds and some one is born every 3-5 seconds so it seems to balance itself out pretty well. Its much easier to control 5 billion apposed to 9 billion, there is enough food and natural resources to go around, the world has been here for a long time and continues to renew itself.

The bible says as long as the earth remains there will be seed time and harvest time. But by all means bionic your entitled to your oppinion, but both of us are not right I guess only time will tell.

 

[Bionic]

But by all means bionic your entitled to your oppinion, but both of us are not right I guess only time will tell.

Whoa there, buddy! I, mostly, agree with you. I think you have me confused with another.

 

[NattyT]

Whoa there, buddy! I, mostly, agree with you. I think you have me confused with another.

My bad Bionic I was responding to Bioman.:ziplip:

 

[dragonfly]

DragonFly, quite honestly I think that is complete BS. You can pick 2 dozen points in history and apply those things...

I am sure we can learn to disagree without killing each other Jayhawkk ..and I could send you a lengthy document (only if you are interested ) that shows how accurate biblical prophecies are....when one takes time to do the research

I dont speak for all but for me yes the bible is my manuel for living and life. Its is very prophetic and tells of events that have happend and that are to come. Now most that dont agree or belive in the Holy Bible will say those prophecies can apply to so many diffrent situations but people will twist and manipulate the bible to say what they want. Just like a rapist that says that she wanted it, in his mind he realy belive that but the oter party see's it in a different light.

Including the Catholic Church. They gave Christ a bad name. Not only does the pope call himself Holy (there is only One Holy and it is God!!!!!), but they are also the richest church in the world...they must have closed their eyes on this part of the scripture:

1John3

16This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers. 17If anyone has material possessions and sees his brother in need but has no pity on him, how can the love of God be in him? 18Dear children, let us not love with words or tongue but with actions and in truth​

People choose not to look at the truth because they cant belive that everything they belived in or thought was real was a total lie. They choose to belive the lie because its much harder to cope with accepting the truth rather it be religon or a corrupt world system. when the average person with no hope or anything to belive in besides there job, money and way of life looses it all they look at there goverment or presednt to take car of them, this is the reasonthe economy is where it is. The federal reserve planed this and allowed it to happen so that they could seize control of all the major banks and in the future combine it into one world bank

2 Peter 2

12But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.

13They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.[e] 14With eyes full of adultery, they never stop sinning; they seduce the unstable; they are experts in greed—an accursed brood! 15They have left the straight way and wandered off to follow the way of Balaam son of Beor, who loved the wages of wickedness. 16But he was rebuked for his wrongdoing by a donkey—a beast without speech—who spoke with a man's voice and restrained the prophet's madness.

17These men are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them. 18For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of sinful human nature, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error. 19They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity—for a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him. 20If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. 21It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. 22Of them the proverbs are true: "A dog returns to its vomit,"[f]and, "A sow that is washed goes back to her wallowing in the mud."​

There are many ways by which the government can brainwash and manipulate people who choose to believe convenient lies rather than the inconvenient truth. They've been doing it for a long time:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAEwGqd12cs&feature=related"]YouTube- Russell Blaylock - Chemical Dumbing Down Of Society[/ame]


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPI7zdGdqo4"]YouTube- Most Astonishing Health Disaster of the 20th Century[/ame]


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQoISHqyYik"]YouTube- New Zealand Wake Up STOP Codex Alimentarius 2009[/ame]

2 Thessalonians 2

7For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. 8And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. 9The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, 10and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness​

http://www.illuminati-news.com/articles2/00260.html

http://www.verichipcorp.com/

http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=55b90199efaf557648905dd770719363&topic=12470.msg288496

http://www.wrightnewsletter.com/etips/ht200412/ht20041209.html

I choose to trust in God.

John 3:16

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life​

Romans 8

31What, then, shall we say in response to this? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? 33Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. 34Who is he that condemns? Christ Jesus, who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us. 35Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36As it is written:
"For your sake we face death all day long;
we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered." 37No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

 

[Jayhawkk]

Change that yellow color man, it's blinding! lol

I do research and quite a bit of it, actually. I also know that many of the signs used as prophecy fulfillment have already happened before. I'm not unwilling to listen to someone's POV but you're certainly not the first to use these scenarios as proof of the end of times; so to speak. Just go back to 2001 and you'll see similar prophecies

 

[dragonfly]

Change that yellow color man, it's blinding! lol

Not sure if that is better :lol:

I do research and quite a bit of it, actually. I also know that many of the signs used as prophecy fulfillment have already happened before. I'm not unwilling to listen to someone's POV but you're certainly not the first to use these scenarios as proof of the end of times; so to speak. Just go back to 2001 and you'll see similar prophecies

I agree.

One thing to look out for is what is happening in Jerusalem....

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdX_Ee7PiF8&feature=fvw"]YouTube- Jerusalem:The Building Of The Third Temple[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDDADcT61SA&feature=related"]YouTube- 3rd Jewish Temple is almost complete[/ame]


http://www.thegoldenreport.com/asp/jerrysnewsmanager/anmviewer.asp?a=1326&z=1

 

[dragonfly]

The video is relevant for all of us, in spite of the title....it had under 2000 views....you have to wonder why.... Perhaps you don't want to watch the whole thing but you DEFINITELY want to watch from 3min onwards.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v8tei2GMzk&NR=1"]YouTube- Australian RFID Trafic Control GRID[/ame]


The Power Elite is doing a good job indeed...they definitely do NOT want you to think.

 

[NattyT]

Good Video Dragonfly. I think im gonna go throw my HD flat screen away now.

 

[dragonfly]

Good Video Dragonfly. I think im gonna go throw my HD flat screen away now.

:rofl:

Matthew 6

19"Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.