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  1. Obama awarded 2009 Nobel Peace Prize


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    The Norwegian Nobel Committee

    The Nobel Peace Prize for 2009

    The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons.

    Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama's initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened.

    Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population.

    For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world's leading spokesman. The Committee endorses Obama's appeal that "Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges."

    Oslo, October 9, 2009
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  2. Is this a joke?
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  3. Yes I'm sure he is the most deserving person to receive the award. I like the guy, but the Nobel Peace Prize, come on, seriously.

  4. Yeah thats sad honestly. I thought it was bad when Al Gore actually won it but this is on a whole different level. He has not been in office for 9 months yet and he has not accomplished anything, let alone something deserving of the Nobel Peace prize. This award has steadily lost merit and become a joke of an award.

  5. He won it on his promises, nothing that he has actually done. The biggest one I grabbed was his promise to reduce nuclear threats across the globe, now we look to ahkmedinijad, and his threatening Israel.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    He won it on his promises
    Sounds like something else he won....
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    He won it on his promises, nothing that he has actually done. The biggest one I grabbed was his promise to reduce nuclear threats across the globe, now we look to ahkmedinijad, and his threatening Israel.
    Yeah hopefully he acts soon but I really dont know what he is willing to do about it. Either way I bet Israel strikes first and probably relatively soon

  8. Quote Originally Posted by iron fists View Post
    This is ridiculous. The nobel peace prize has now lost all meaning and prestige. If he was so great of a wglobal spokesman...then why is he not able to come to the rescue of our troops in afghanistan where our military leaders are demanding for the extra troops for support, but he will not come thru....So doesnt this award and his lack of support for our troops kind of containdict each other. I think he really feels that he will be the leader of the world....We should look into the stimulus budget just to make sure that the norwegian govt did not recieve several billions of dollars for a nobel peace commitee and to fix sqeaking doors. This will definitely fuel the fire and give more momemtum for another stimulus package...wich by the way, our vice president has stated that he never dream that the first one would ever have been so successful and impacting so quickly... Get ready for rocket scienctist brain surgreons and truck stop janitors to make the same money....Even Moore says it in his movie..Obama is a socialist....
    Stimulus Part 3 (Or 4 if you want to could the 600 bones in our tax return 2 years ago) is well in the works... my daughter is already 39K in debt and she is only 6 months old.

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  9. What a d@mm joke.

  10. Personally, I thought it was not entirely inconceivable that he would receive the award at all. What I was not prepared for was the timing. As a matter of fact, I had to go to the Nobel Foundation's website to confirm the authenticity of the report. I had thought he would deserve the prize further down the road, if he managed to successfully moderate the peace process in the Middle East, for example. As a consequence, I thought the 2009 award for him was somewhat premature, but who am I?
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    Personally, I thought it was not entirely inconceivable that he would receive the award at all. What I was not prepared for was the timing. As a matter of fact, I had to go to the Nobel Foundation's website to confirm the authenticity of the report. I had thought he would deserve the prize further down the road, if he managed to successfully moderate the peace process in the Middle East, for example. As a consequence, I thought the 2009 award for him was somewhat premature, but who am I?
    Agreed... No peace has been established, and threatening Israel if they attack Iran is not establishing real peace. If in 5 years down the road it was his work and peace has been attained... then sure, the guy deserves it. Having the idea of peace in your mind should not warrant you award. Otherwise every hippy in this country would have that damn award.
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  12. If there was an award for Nobel WAR Prize, I would wear it like a wresting belt.
    I am just joking.

    I do find it odd that a man that has only just begun his Presidency is awarded this (what was once considered a high regard) Nobel Peace Prize when he is just beginning to try to moderate peace.

  13. The rest of the world loves him because he's kissing their asses. That's why they gave it to him.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by iron fists View Post
    Yeah...how many other leaders do you know of that has ever been referred to as "our son" by every major terrorist driven muslim leader in the world...?
    This is all I will say: It's called Propaganda. Our enemies (which I know very well) would do and say anything to have the masses turn against our own leader. Now, regardless if you like the man, or if you disagree with his policies/propositions, NO leader can be effective if his own people are pointing fingers at him and listening to the enemies ideology of him. Stop playing in to their (terrorist) hands.

    /I'm out.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    This is all I will say: It's called Propaganda. Our enemies (which I know very well) would do and say anything to have the masses turn against our own leader. Now, regardless if you like the man, or if you disagree with his policies/propositions, NO leader can be effective if his own people are pointing fingers at him and listening to the enemies ideology of him. Stop playing in to their (terrorist) hands....
    Agree.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    This is all I will say: It's called Propaganda. Our enemies (which I know very well) would do and say anything to have the masses turn against our own leader. Now, regardless if you like the man, or if you disagree with his policies/propositions, NO leader can be effective if his own people are pointing fingers at him and listening to the enemies ideology of him. Stop playing in to their (terrorist) hands.

    /I'm out.
    Eh.. I agree but disagree. I personally am sickened by people who validate their argument by siding with ahkmadenijah or that **** bastard chavez. I dont like Obamas policies, bar none, and would even welcome a peaceful revolution in Washington, and am a advocate of speaking out against your leader if you do not agree, just not to the side of our enemies.
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    Eh.. I agree but disagree. I personally am sickened by people who validate their argument by siding with ahkmadenijah or that **** bastard chavez. I dont like Obamas policies, bar none, and would even welcome a peaceful revolution in Washington, and am a advocate of speaking out against your leader if you do not agree, just not to the side of our enemies.
    You basically agree with IL.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    You basically agree with IL.
    My qualm was the pointing fingers are your leader part. I agree with listening to enemy part. I say point your fingers all you want, say what you please.
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  19. Way too soon IMO.

  20. One would think that the cold war ending Ronald Regan would have at least been considered over someone with a good idea. "By their fruits ye shall know them"... or did I read that wrong. Regardless of whether or not one supports the man, one would have to agree that the award being thus given is an embarrassment to the Nobel establishment as a whole. The president should have done the honorable thing and taken his name out of the running. Then again..., there is that little word again... honor.

  21. He has been awarded the Prize. Now is time to earn it!

  22. Would holding my breath at this point be a bad thing????

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Army Guy View Post
    Would holding my breath at this point be a bad thing????
    Question is "for how long"?

  24. My favorite part of this story is this: The deadline for nominations for the prize was Feb. 1, 2009. Obama had done 12 days of work as President to get nominated for this.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by rm23 View Post
    My favorite part of this story is this: The deadline for nominations for the prize was Feb. 1, 2009. Obama had done 12 days of work as President to get nominated for this.
    Yeah its hilarious that before 2 full weeks were up in his Presidency he was already nominated. Lately its just whoever is the most popular liberal candidate who gets awarded.

  26. an unfortunate reality my friend

  27. Quote Originally Posted by iron fists View Post
    Yeah I fist wana say congradulations to lebron james for winning the championship next year and being 2010 mvp....I mean he said he was gona do it so why no reward him now...who cares if he does it, it is the promise and hope that he said he would..I mean obama had two weeks in the office and in his two weeks of talking out his a** through a telepromptor he was worthy of the nobel peace prize. I just dnt know how he pulled it off...really...there were great competitors in the field who had spoke of what ifs and what that of a greater magnitude....The first one garanteed a cure for cancer and aids by winter of next year, the second told stories of dreams he had of ending global warming by 2011, the third hinted but a wisper about an aerosal nuclear vaporizer that incenagrate any nuclear missle within 15 feet. And not to mention the darkhorse of the competetion whos promises and ideas were so genious and world effective, that he couldnt even speak of it...all he could tell us was that hope and change were on the horizon.......

    That was a close, but prestigeous win for obama barely edging out the rest of the field.
    I think we should take a step back and focus on this issue as objectively as we can, if that is possible.

    First, the fact that he was only about two weeks in office before the nominations ended is, in my opinion, completely irrelevant. The deadline had already been fixed before Mr. Obama even won the presidential elections! Furthermore, he did not (and could not) nominate himself for the award. It might interest some of us to know there were about 205 nominees for the award, including Stalin! For those who care, nominations come from the following:


    Qualified Nominators

    The right to submit proposals for the Nobel Peace Prize shall, by statute, be enjoyed by:

    1. Members of national assemblies and governments of states;
    2. Members of international courts;
    3. University rectors; professors of social sciences, history, philosophy, law and theology; directors of peace research institutes and foreign policy institutes;
    4. Persons who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize;
    5. Board members of organizations who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize;
    6. Active and former members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee; (proposals by members of the Committee to be submitted no later than at the first meeting of the Committee after February 1) and
    7. Former advisers appointed by the Norwegian Nobel Institute.


    The Nobel Peace Prize may also be awarded to institutions and associations.
    And, again, for those who care, the selection process works like this:


    Below is a brief description of the process involved in selecting the Nobel Peace Prize Laureates.

    September – Invitation letters are sent out. The Nobel Committee sends out invitation letters to individuals qualified to nominate – members of national assemblies, governments, and international courts of law; university chancellors, professors of social science, history, philosophy, law and theology; leaders of peace research institutes and institutes of foreign affairs; previous Nobel Peace Prize Laureates; board members of organizations that have received the Nobel Peace Prize; present and past members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee; and former advisers of the Norwegian Nobel Institute.

    February – Deadline for submission. The Committee bases its assessment on nominations that must be postmarked no later than 1 February each year. Nominations postmarked and received after this date are included in the following year's discussions. In recent years, the Committee has received close to 200 different nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize. The number of nominating letters is much higher, as many are for the same candidates.

    February-March – Short list. The Committee assesses the candidates' work and prepares a short list.

    March-August – Adviser review. The short list is reviewed by permanent advisers and advisers specially recruited for their knowledge of specific candidates. The advisers do not directly evaluate nominations nor give explicit recommendations.

    October – Nobel Laureates are chosen. At the beginning of October, the Nobel Committee chooses the Nobel Peace Prize Laureates through a majority vote. The decision is final and without appeal. The names of the Nobel Peace Prize Laureates are then announced.

    December – Nobel Laureates receive their prize. The Nobel Peace Prize Award Ceremony takes place on 10 December in Oslo, Norway, where the Nobel Laureates receive their Nobel Prize, which consists of a Nobel Medal and Diploma, and a document confirming the prize amount.

    Second, Mr. Obama himself acknowledged he did not think he deserved (yet) to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with some of the earlier recepients that he looked up to as role models. He also reiterated he did not think he was awarded the Prize for any personal (or public) accomplishment (in the sense of a completed process with a specific result or outcome). And this is important. Anyone that understands the workings of the Nobel Peace Prize selection process would admit that it is not always awarded for any specific achievement. Sometimes, the selection committee uses the Prize to make a statement; to stimulate a particular line of dialogue; to influence action in a particular direction; to build momentum for a specific cause. For example, Nobel Committee awarded Peace Prize for 1996 to Carlos Felipe Ximenes Belo and José Ramos-Horta "for their work towards a just and peaceful solution to the conflict in East Timor". At the time, the peace process in East Timor was still in progress, and as we now know, was not brought to a fruitful conclusion. Another example, Aung San Suu Kyi received the Peace Prize in 1991 "for her non-violent struggle for democracy and human rights". To this day, there still is no democracy in Burma (Myanmar). And so on.

    So, in such cases, with its awards, the Nobel Committee is making a bet, so to say. It awards the Prize to stimulate, encourage, motivate, and influence a cause or process. To be fair, though, the Committee believes Mr. Obama has already triggered a subtle change in the conduct of international relations, especially in terms of a preference for dialogue, consensus, and partnership, and jettisoning of the confrontational approach to international policy. The key part of the award citation is: "for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples".

    Third, part of Mr. Alfred B. Nobel's conditions for the Peace-Prize award include promoting fraternity among nations, stimulating international peace congresses, and so on. The awarding committee is of the opinion that awarding the Prize to Mr. Obama is in tune with these requirements or ideals, especially in terms of Mr. Obama's erstwhile efforts at promoting these ideals.

    Overall, in my opinion, the award to Mr. Obama will be historically validated, if it ultimately helps to improve fraternity among nations.
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  28. Oh yeah? Well, your mother!

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawkk View Post
    Oh yeah? Well, your mother!
    What?
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  30. This is just my opinion but.......I didn't agree at all with Obama getting elected the way he did because I felt like the media was the driving force behind his campaign just because a black president elect headline gets better ratings than a McCain wins election headline, BUT THIS IS AMERICA. At first glance, I didn't feel like Obama deserved the Nobel Peace Prize but I didn't know what all the factors were that went into that process either and frankly I didn't care. The fact of the matter is, in my opinion, whether we like it or not, he is our elected leader and we should all just be happy that our nations leader has won something as prestigious as the Nobel Peace prize and be supportive of him. It wasn't his choice to win the thing in the first place. He represents us ALL (whether we like it or not) to the rest of the world. Ironlungs is right, we have to support this guy or else we're screwed.
    And just so everyone knows, I didn't vote for Obama, I thought the presidential race was sickening and a joke (also kinda scary), I'm not a "democrat" or even into politics for that matter, and I haven't heard anything that Obama has said that would convince me that he is going to be able to change anything, BUT HE IS OUR PRESIDENT WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOTand that is not going to change for years (barring something horrible) and the better he does, theoretically, the better that we will do. We really need to pull together guys.
  

  
 

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