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Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas. sent a letter to President Barack Obama on Wednesday questioning his administration’s request for supporters to report “fishy” behavior on health care to an official White House e-mail address.

“I am not aware of any precedent for a president asking American citizens to report their fellow citizens to the White House for pure political speech that is deemed ‘fishy’ or otherwise inimical to the White House’s political interests,” Cornyn writes today in a harshly worded letter to President Barack Obama in which he asks the president to immediately halt the effort.

It’s not the first time the Obama operation has asked supporters to report back on misinformation spread about the president on the Web—but those efforts were largely conducted through his campaign operation and more recently through the party’s political arm at the Democratic National Committee.

Cornyn, a former member of the Texas state Supreme Court, further suggests that the data that is collected by the White House could “raise the specter of a data collection program.”

“As Congress debates health care reform and other critical policy matters, citizen engagement must not be chilled by fear of government monitoring the exercise of free speech rights.”

If the effort continues, the Texas Republican is asking the administration to detail to Congress and the public the protocols employed by the White House on what they are doing with the data. He further inquires if the administration intends to notify the citizens reported for “fishy” speech.

“Do your own past statements qualify as ‘disinformation’?” Cornyn concludes, “For example, is it ‘disinformation’ to note that in 2003 you said: ‘I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer universal health care plan’?”

The White House blog post was done to respond to a viral video posted on The Drudge Report that used clips of Obama other Democrats to suggest his health care plan will eliminate private insurance and lead to a single-payer system.
 
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Damn I wonder how long I got until a black van pulls up to my house and I "vanish" and end up having an unfortunate "accident"....

Go tie 50lbs of weight to your wrists and jump in a 20ft septic tank and choke on the very crap you spew out Obama & Company.
 
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A president against freedom of speech. A president against the constitution.
 
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A president against freedom of speech. A president against the constitution.
A president against free speech...not a president at all.

This administration is breaking too many rules for my comfort... I believe our government has reached the point of no return, and they will begin taking more and more from the peoples rights. They may deem it easy to monitor us, and yes this is true. But at the same time, there are people who have switched to low jack communications. Carrier pigeons are still trained you know...
 

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He should have never been elected when he would not prove citizenship, yet he was.. You reap what you sow, he was elected and look what it is reaping..............
 
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im going to have to bring this thread to the presidents attention immediately.

or i can send these guys to your house, lol

these guys and many others are being funded by that health care bill that passed to enforce people to buy the health insurance product on the american people

 
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He's probably a nice guy, but he's a Socialist.
thats not good, Karl Marx was financed by Wall Street bankers to create a system to consolidate money/power to themselves, while the masses get chicken feed spread out to them. then when society starts decaying, the powerful elite just tell the masses, "keep going, you guys are all doing grreeeeaattt!"

actually i disagree 100% that he is a socialist. if you study and look at all the moves he has been doing he is a straight up corporatist. BP was his 3rd biggest campaign contributor for example just to start.
 
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thats not good, Karl Marx was financed by Wall Street bankers to create a system to consolidate money/power to themselves, while the masses get chicken feed spread out to them. then when society starts decaying, the powerful elite just tell the masses, "keep going, you guys are all doing grreeeeaattt!"

actually i disagree 100% that he is a socialist. if you study and look at all the moves he has been doing he is a straight up corporatist. BP was his 3rd biggest campaign contributor for example just to start.
To be honest I would prefer an old school monarchy. At least then we could kill the king if we dont like em and put a new one in place :D

lol.

Bust seriously the president is supposed to be the ultimate "public SERVANT" wtf are we doing bending to his will? His job is to make happen what the people will, not make the people fall under his.

If you put me in front of him, I would probably catch him with a right hook. So worth my death, even God would high five me when I died. hahah
 
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why you hate obama? coz he is black?
No, because he's a moron. Do you really think that sitting down at a table and having a nice talk with Iran is going to change their constant "Kill America" ranting? He does.
 
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No, because he's a moron. Do you really think that sitting down at a table and having a nice talk with Iran is going to change their constant "Kill America" ranting? He does.
that wasnt the plan anyways, he wasnt really going to "sit down with iran"

thats just to win the votes for liberals.

if you follow everything he has said during his election, he has dont a total 180 and done the opposite.

but i have to disagree that he is a moron.......the morons are the voters, including myself who fell for his spell. i was tricked i admit it. at least i pay attention to everything he is doing and its all for the corporations, and banker elites.

if you watch what obama does and not what he says is really george bush's 3rd term.

you should all watch the "Obama Deception" on youtube. the movie came out shortly after he won the election and many things in this movie have recently come true.
 
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thats right ax1, its a slow process but hopefully one day the "tin foil hat people" will be the majority. how can people move ahead with your eyes closed blind to the world and let the elites lead you? But hey im just a "_______" (insert some cheesy phrase that somehow in the minds of the simple justifies my error) Your a right wing, socialist, consipracy theorist, marxist, liberal, communist, hippie, conservative..... blah blah were all human getting fked by other rich humans. So instead of being divided and conquered squabbling the finite details why the heck dont people focus on the solutions and start standing up for something. I mean some people wont break the mould in a damn internet forum for fear of "negs" let alone grow a pair and change the world.
 
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heck dont people focus on the solutions and start standing up for something. I mean some people wont break the mould in a damn internet forum for fear of "negs" let alone grow a pair and change the world.
because we are being bombarded by entertainment, and our brains are being re-wired into thinking irrelevant matters such as mel gibson is the important news.

the fact that mainstream media has its own agenda, people arent informed properly and all threats are re-directed to other irrelevant things.

whats most important to the country is what team lebron james plays for. the media hypes stuff like this up and people learn to care and pay most of their attention to these little things.

there is alot of psychological research involved with the elite and the media. propaganda is used masterfully and the world gets hypnotized, and to top it all off more and more people are being drugged by corporate doctors for things like being sad and having a bad day.

i can go on forever......but would you care for a sample of Prozac? it will make you feel real good, i prefer to chop it up with a razor and snort it with a toilet paper tube.
 
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because we are being bombarded by entertainment, and our brains are being re-wired into thinking irrelevant matters such as mel gibson is the important news.

the fact that mainstream media has its own agenda, people arent informed properly and all threats are re-directed to other irrelevant things.

whats most important to the country is what team lebron james plays for. the media hypes stuff like this up and people learn to care and pay most of their attention to these little things.

there is alot of psychological research involved with the elite and the media. propaganda is used masterfully and the world gets hypnotized, and to top it all off more and more people are being drugged by corporate doctors for things like being sad and having a bad day.

i can go on forever......but would you care for a sample of Prozac? it will make you feel real good, i prefer to chop it up with a razor and snort it with a toilet paper tube.
Dear God a man knows and understands the truth!

I just wish more people could see clearly, if just 50% of Americans had their eyes open this country would go for one hell of a "change on leadership"
 

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Reporting back on misinformation is now considered a new form of tattling?

And here in NY we just call that grassroots politics. When Michelle Bachmann is allowed to spew 100% unadulterated craziness, without a shred of validity then her opponents should bring that to light, an informed public is an empowered public. That response is being quoted out of context. Those who signed up as supporters during Obama's campaign, are being urged to report political misinformation, and nothing is wrong with that.

If someone claims something, then they better be able to provide valid sources and by valid sources I'm not referring to an online "blog", an opinion column or someone's twitter account.
 
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Reporting back on misinformation is now considered a new form of tattling?

And here in NY we just call that grassroots politics. When Michelle Bachmann is allowed to spew 100% unadulterated craziness, without a shred of validity then her opponents should bring that to light, an informed public is an empowered public. That response is being quoted out of context. Those who signed up as supporters during Obama's campaign, are being urged to report political misinformation, and nothing is wrong with that.

If someone claims something, then they better be able to provide valid sources and by valid sources I'm not referring to an online "blog", an opinion column or someone's twitter account.
Whats counted as misinformation? Half of the things the president is working on we will have no "proof" of, because things will stay shady....

besides he spews more misinformation than anyone else, can we report him?
 
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Im just waiting patiently for Obama to cause end of times :D..

Fun times hehe..
 

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Whats counted as misinformation? Half of the things the president is working on we will have no "proof" of, because things will stay shady....

besides he spews more misinformation than anyone else, can we report him?
Misinformation would be anything not contained in any proposed bill or piece of legislation, as to play on the fears of people rather than to assume their actual intelligence.

Misinformation would also be to assume someone follows the Muslim faith, simply because they take an approach to a complex issue, that is upheld by the constitution, in light of the fact that they taught constitutional law.

In life things aren't always as black and white as conservatives make them out to be, these are nuanced issues and require varied approaches. Bush thought he was a cowboy, and in the end he came off looking like Alan from the Hangover.

What misinformation has he spread so far?
 

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Dear God a man knows and understands the truth!

I just wish more people could see clearly, if just 50% of Americans had their eyes open this country would go for one hell of a "change on leadership"
Let's envision for a second that McCain won the election rather than Obama. What would McCain have done differently than his predecessor, who proved to be a miserable failure? I'm referring to domestic policy positions, economy and foreign policy.
 
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Let's envision for a second that McCain won the election rather than Obama. What would McCain have done differently than his predecessor, who proved to be a miserable failure? I'm referring to domestic policy positions, economy and foreign policy.
Huckaby or however you spell his name should have made it.. A minister as a President, probably would have been the most honest person to touch the white house..
 

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Huckaby or however you spell his name should have made it.. A minister as a President, probably would have been the most honest person to touch the white house..
Huckabee is a good man, but he is an ideologue. As a pastor/reverend that may work within his base, but in terms of a national election, not everyone believes or follows some semblance of organized faith.

Romney had the education and business acumen to be president, but again another religious ideologue.
 
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Huckabee is a good man, but he is an ideologue. As a pastor/reverend that may work within his base, but in terms of a national election, not everyone believes or follows some semblance of organized faith.

Romney had the education and business acumen to be president, but again another religious ideologue.
I know that is why Huckabee didnt win.. Maybe if he was black, nope, if he was black and a pastor, he woulda won..

Ignorant americans, always wanna vote based on color and sex...
 

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I know that is why Huckabee didnt win.. Maybe if he was black, nope, if he was black and a pastor, he woulda won..

Ignorant americans, always wanna vote based on color and sex...
Not entirely sure what point you were trying to convey, but going by that logic, how many presidents prior to Obama were black? Rhetorical.
 
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Not entirely sure what point you were trying to convey, but going by that logic, how many presidents prior to Obama were black? Rhetorical.
Haha.. How many female, or black final candidates did you see run?
 
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Alan Keyes,Al Sharpton (primary),Geraldine Ferraro,Hillary....
Primary doesnt count.. And race didnt matter in elections 20+ years ago either, when it was pretty much a "white" country..

Now, whites and Christians are becoming the minority.. Tables are turning..
 

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Primary doesnt count.. And race didnt matter in elections 20+ years ago either, when it was pretty much a "white" country..

Now, whites and Christians are becoming the minority.. Tables are turning..
Primaries determine who gets to run in a national election, so they are completely relevant. As for the second statement, is that a bad thing?
 
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Primaries determine who gets to run in a national election, so they are completely relevant. As for the second statement, is that a bad thing?
No, thats why there was not a chance for any other color other than white male to win election.. That was because america was ignorant.. Now their is an president in office again because of ignorance..

This land was based on Christianity, absolute supremacy, no lawyers of war, freedom of speech.. All of that has changed.. And not for the better.. Why the **** would you try to fix something that wasnt broke???
 

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No, thats why there was not a chance for any other color other than white male to win election.. That was because america was ignorant.. Now their is an president in office again because of ignorance..

This land was based on Christianity, absolute supremacy, no lawyers of war, freedom of speech.. All of that has changed.. And not for the better.. Why the **** would you try to fix something that wasnt broke???
Oh god, that sounds like a message Mel Gibson would leave on an answering machine.
 
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Oh god, that sounds like a Mel Gibson message on an answering machine.
Mel Gibson was set up by that focking whorish women aksona!! Any moronic person could see that she is obviously setting this sh!t up!! For one thing, if a man of his stature hit a baby, it would leave more than that stupid tiny scratch on his chin!! That bitch is the one who deserves to be sued!!!
 

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Mel Gibson was set up by that focking whorish women aksona!! Any moronic person could see that she is obviously setting this sh!t up!! For one thing, if a man of his stature hit a baby, it would leave more than that stupid tiny scratch on his chin!! That bitch is the one who deserves to be sued!!!
Hmmm dude I was kidding, I mean I like Lethal Weapon 9 just as much as the next guy.
 
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No, thats why there was not a chance for any other color other than white male to win election.. That was because america was ignorant.. Now their is an president in office again because of ignorance..

This land was based on Christianity, absolute supremacy, no lawyers of war, freedom of speech.. All of that has changed.. And not for the better.. Why the **** would you try to fix something that wasnt broke???
This land has been contaminated, it has a bacterial infection in the form of certain kinds of people. And anti-body-otics are not applied soon, it will kill the nation.

America is on its death bed, elect whoever the hell you people want it doesnt matter a damn but anymore in a nation where the core building blocks that once made it have been ripped out and the structure has fallen. Climb on the ruins if you like.

You bring a bunch of third world people in here, and religions that have always only existed in third world countries, and let them get into power guess what America becomes....durpa durpa, a third world country with little rights. If they cant run their country right, what makes you think they will be any different over here?

None of these nations of people ever rose to become anything have they? No, reasons for that? Maybe they just arent capable or built for it, now they are an integral part of our nation? Well, it doesnt require a genius to see what happens.

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I really dont mean this in a racism kinda way. Just today I was thinking how amazing it is to have flavors from other countries in our culture. I just ate sushi, and the guy was asian(not sure which country) and I realize they brought this delicacy to America(i think?). And how we used to be a beautiful blend.

But some things just should have never come, you cant mix some things and get a desirable outcome.
 

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No, thats why there was not a chance for any other color other than white male to win election.. That was because america was ignorant.. Now their is an president in office again because of ignorance..

This land was based on Christianity, absolute supremacy, no lawyers of war, freedom of speech.. All of that has changed.. And not for the better.. Why the **** would you try to fix something that wasnt broke???
No, it wasn't.
 

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This land has been contaminated, it has a bacterial infection in the form of certain kinds of people. And anti-body-otics are not applied soon, it will kill the nation.

America is on its death bed, elect whoever the hell you people want it doesnt matter a damn but anymore in a nation where the core building blocks that once made it have been ripped out and the structure has fallen. Climb on the ruins if you like.

You bring a bunch of third world people in here, and religions that have always only existed in third world countries, and let them get into power guess what America becomes....durpa durpa, a third world country with little rights. If they cant run their country right, what makes you think they will be any different over here?

None of these nations of people ever rose to become anything have they? No, reasons for that? Maybe they just arent capable or built for it, now they are an integral part of our nation? Well, it doesnt require a genius to see what happens.

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I really dont mean this in a racism kinda way. Just today I was thinking how amazing it is to have flavors from other countries in our culture. I just ate sushi, and the guy was asian(not sure which country) and I realize they brought this delicacy to America(i think?). And how we used to be a beautiful blend.

But some things just should have never come, you cant mix some things and get a desirable outcome.
Lol at prefacing your last comments, by stating that you're not racist, because you happen to like fortune cookies.

With respect to "third world people" coming here and that somehow negatively impacting our lives, reference Ellis Island.

Most of these individuals are highly educated, in many cases more so than the individuals who often criticize them. You have guys like Glenn Beck who barely made it out of high school, with no further education, ranting on a nightly basis about a man who attended Harvard, that's actually slightly amusing, except he panders to the lowest common denominator.

I think what's contaminating this country, is a lack of education, with individuals incapable of intellectually digesting an issue, so they prefer to emote over peripheral social issues that really does not affect our day-to-day lives.

Back to eating my fortune cookies.
 
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Lol at prefacing your last comments, by stating that you're not racist, because you happen to like fortune cookies.

With respect to "third world people" coming here and that somehow negatively impacting our lives, reference Ellis Island.

Most of these individuals are highly educated, in many cases more so than the individuals who often criticize them. You have guys like Glenn Beck who barely made it out of high school, with no further education, ranting on a nightly basis about a man who attended Harvard, that's actually slightly amusing, except he panders to the lowest common denominator.

I think what's contaminating this country, is a lack of education, with individuals incapable of intellectually digesting an issue, so they prefer to emote over peripheral social issues that really does not affect our day-to-day lives.

Back to eating my fortune cookies.
You make some good sense. We have some doctors coming in, upper management individuals with degrees, teachers(though I think the teachers should not be here, student cant understand them), and so on. I dont actually know who Glenn Beck is, but I can tell there is a negative reference to him that sounds almost redneckish(no further education bit). But % wise how many immigrants are above the collegiate level of education? I highly doubt its high... Not from who I meet on the street and in town that came from other nations.

It just seems this nation is crumbling far too fast, immigration should stop until we stabilize(if its not too late).
 
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Legal immigration is fine, as it is controlled. Its illegal that is the problem. Legal immigration doesn't destabilize anything as the numbers get adjusted yearly, and there are requirements + restrictions.
 

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sigh... are we really doing this? As a majority immigrants and minorities from some area's ( who are of all races) have lower I.Q"s than America's majority. (google search) Argue social inequalities or what have you. But this does pertain to this country. This does not mean that their are not intelligent minorities out there! But it is true the ideologies of these other countries have proved inferior! If you think other wise how many of your kids have you sent in the street with a bomb to blow up people? ..... Who the hell is ellis and if that is a gangster movie reference shut up!!!! Before you drop the race card on me..lol cause i know it is coming..go ahead put it away lol.. I'm Irish, my wife is black Indian and white> and we have 2 kids that you prob just would say are black..? Just to prove my point! I am the lowest common denominator to the people you support. Death threats, constant hate, my car being keyed with racist crap against whites. So Please realize your red neck hate agenda is just rhetoric. AND FOR MY OWN MOVIE QUOTE FROM TROPIC THUNDER " AS ALWAYS GO #UCK YOUR SELF we do not negotiate with terrorists"
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edit..Im sorry for my rant. It seemed implied in the thread that racism is a one sided issue. I can assure you it is not. You may not hear about it main stream as it is masked with white guilt and shrouded in fear of being labeled a racists for even implying such a thing could happen. This is not the races evolving, this is decay of race relations due to double standards. exp.. I'm a white male married to a black woman (to make it simple) we go out and 40% of the time at the very least there are racist comments from blacks directed at me. some even end up in a face to face confrontation with them. ( and im 240 pounds) and black girls are always talking **** about her also.... NOT ONE SINGLE TIME HAVE WE HAD A COMMENT FROM A WHITE PERSON OF EITHER SEX, NO LESS A CONFRONTATION!!! and we have been with each other 5 years, I think that proves some thing! Figuring that blacks are aprox 11% of the population. I realize speaking of this is taboo tho
 

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Huckaby or however you spell his name should have made it.. A minister as a President, probably would have been the most honest person to touch the white house..
?????? How many ministers raped kids or have thier own agenda?? that is the reason for seperation of church and state!!! if people knew 200 years ago. About it and tried to protect us from it why is it confusing today??? To pretend history does not repeat its self is foolish at best. read your history books uneducated people with agendas will be the death of our freedom...hey did or did not the pope just get busted for rapping little boys???
 
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?????? How many ministers raped kids or have thier own agenda?? that is the reason for seperation of church and state!!! if people knew 200 years ago. About it and tried to protect us from it why is it confusing today??? To pretend history does not repeat its self is foolish at best. read your history books uneducated people with agendas will be the death of our freedom...hey did or did not the pope just get busted for rapping little boys???
Christians and Catholics are two diff peoples....

Christians seek to be filled with Gods Hold Spirit, Catholics are...well not like that, they dont seek it and stay empty therefore likely not guided by God.

A Christian filled with the Holy Spirit gets conviction if he so much as lies....

Huckaby or whatever would have been great as Prez, I went for him but you know the stupidity of the masses, so they chose Obama and McCain..
 
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?????? How many ministers raped kids or have thier own agenda?? that is the reason for seperation of church and state!!! if people knew 200 years ago. About it and tried to protect us from it why is it confusing today??? To pretend history does not repeat its self is foolish at best. read your history books uneducated people with agendas will be the death of our freedom...hey did or did not the pope just get busted for rapping little boys???
Actually very few ministers have, as most are married. Its the highly suppressed roman catholic priests that are the problem. And separation of church and state applies to the federal government promulgating a specific religion. A minister as president who didn't try to force his particular strain of christianity on the country would be better than a radical "hate whitey" strain of christianity believing person like who is in the whitehouse now.
 

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