Clinton did it!

[lutherblsstt]

Bill Clinton was successful in negotiating the release of the two American journalists who were imprisoned in North Korea. I believed he would be successful in this trip.

[roids1]

Well, yeah. That's a good thing. The Dear Leader got a photo op that he's probably wanted for a long time and those chicks got released. It was kind of funny that Bill was standing about 15 feet away from KJI with a somewhat blank expression on his face. The Dear Leader was probably hoping for a smiling handshake photo, but took what he could get. Hopefully, we didn't give up anything in return.

I don't know why they were in such a hurry to get out of NK though. It may be a nice place to live. Afterall Luther, it's just western propaganda that makes it look so bad.

[timmmah]

Does anyone know how much this little excursion cost us?

[lutherblsstt]

Well, yeah. That's a good thing. The Dear Leader got a photo op that he's probably wanted for a long time and those chicks got released. It was kind of funny that Bill was standing about 15 feet away from KJI with a somewhat blank expression on his face. The Dear Leader was probably hoping for a smiling handshake photo, but took what he could get. Hopefully, we didn't give up anything in return.

I don't know why they were in such a hurry to get out of NK though. It may be a nice place to live. Afterall Luther, it's just western propaganda that makes it look so bad.

I think it is because they live in the US and were detained that they were trying to get out,even if they were detained in a tropical paradise I am sure they would be in a hurry to get out of the detention and subsequently out of the country and back to their homes.

[JW32Hoops]

Does anyone know how much this little excursion cost us?

Word on the street is that no concessions were made and we knew they'd be released before Bubba ever left.

[Delta Force]

I have nothing but respect for Clinton, I think he was the best president of our time but I couldn't help thinking this morning when i saw the pictures of those 2 asian girls getting in the plane and the smile on his face.... he probable did them on the way how

[JW32Hoops]

Totally. Oh Bill....

[bioman]

Yep, Clinton...aka the Big Dog...wouldn't go over there without assurances. Still, it's nice that those girls are home. NK plays these sorts of neurotic diplomatic games all the time. KJI is an attention-whore and a psycho to boot...not a good combo.

[bioman]

I thought the same damned thing, lol. "So, how about a little gratitude, ladies? Yeah, who's your former President?".

[Delta Force]

Does anyone know how much this little excursion cost us?

Clinton's trip was a lot cheaper than having tensions rising between both sides and later sending a bigger team over there!

[roids1]

I have nothing but respect for Clinton, I think he was the best president of our time but I couldn't help thinking this morning when i saw the pictures of those 2 asian girls getting in the plane and the smile on his face.... he probable did them on the way how

If any concessions were given, it prolly involved Bubba getting some knob on the flight home!!!!

[bioman]

NK media reported that Clinton came to offer deep apologies from Obama. It must be nice to be crazy and have your state media reinforce your version of La-La Land for you everyday.

[lutherblsstt]

Yep, Clinton...aka the Big Dog...wouldn't go over there without assurances. Still, it's nice that those girls are home. NK plays these sorts of neurotic diplomatic games all the time. KJI is an attention-whore and a psycho to boot...not a good combo.

We may never know what was given to get these two women back, but the irony out of all this is that the North Korean government basically got what they wanted. They got the notoriety of having former President Clinton visit their country, and tacit acknowledgement from the international community that the two women broke their laws, which implicitly bolstered the North Korean government's ideals. The two women reporters were puppets of the regime that were used for their own manipulative purposes.

The North Koreans are experts at brinksmanship, somehow turning a minor situation into an extreme, and then obtaining concessions for it.

The North Koreans are not in the business of selling nuclear arms nor are they likely to be planning to use them against their neighbors. Like the reporters, they are using the weapons as leverage to gain respect in the international community. I think it's time for the U.S. to have a one on one dialog with North Korea.

[AE14]

I thought the same damned thing, lol. "So, how about a little gratitude, ladies? Yeah, who's your former President?".

Its funny, I made a reference of that to my wife yesterday when they showed the clips on the news. Clinton had that sh!t eating grin, saying I am getting a$$ in a minute

[roids1]

I think it is because they live in the US and were detained that they were trying to get out,even if they were detained in a tropical paradise I am sure they would be in a hurry to get out of the detention and subsequently out of the country and back to their homes.

I agree. NK can't be all that bad. Those people build statues in honor of their leader every year for his birthday. They wouldn't do that if they didn't cherish him. He must be a brilliant, beautiful man.

[lutherblsstt]

I agree. NK can't be all that bad. Those people build statues in honor of their leader every year for his birthday. They wouldn't do that if they didn't cherish him. He must be a brilliant, beautiful man.

No one said that,I said that the truth likely lies somewhere in the middle between Western and North Korean Propaganda and it is none of our business anyway,we have nothing to do with North Korea or the conditions there.

[hardknock]

Well, yeah. That's a good thing. The Dear Leader got a photo op that he's probably wanted for a long time and those chicks got released. It was kind of funny that Bill was standing about 15 feet away from KJI with a somewhat blank expression on his face. The Dear Leader was probably hoping for a smiling handshake photo, but took what he could get. Hopefully, we didn't give up anything in return.

I don't know why they were in such a hurry to get out of NK though. It may be a nice place to live. Afterall Luther, it's just western propaganda that makes it look so bad.

Living there and being held there for YEARS without permission to leave is two different things.

[hardknock]

Does anyone know how much this little excursion cost us?

Who is us? I hope your not referring to the taxpayers? Half of the damn people in this country don't pay their damn taxes anyway...if you mean, their concessions, then little if any.

[hardknock]

I agree. NK can't be all that bad. Those people build statues in honor of their leader every year for his birthday. They wouldn't do that if they didn't cherish him. He must be a brilliant, beautiful man.

How does that prove that they cherished anyone just because they build statues? Look at history, it doesn't necessarily mean that they have great thoughts dancing through their heads...think Ethiopians.

[roids1]

How does that prove that they cherished anyone just because they build statues? Look at history, it doesn't necessarily mean that they have great thoughts dancing through their heads...think Ethiopians.

They also bow to likenesses of him. People just don't do that out of simple respect. We respect our leaders, but we don't bow before pictures and statues of them. Clearly, they have a deep love for this man and his father, The Great Leader. Much more so than we have for our own leaders.