Barrack Hussein Obama's healthcare plan good enough for us but not him!

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by GuyverX View Post
    Regulation is a funny animal though. Always a little extra in the legalese that may not benefit citizens or businesses.
    Regulation always benefits businesses. Select businesses. Otherwise it would never get passed.

    Follow me in a thought experiment if you would. Pretend with me that instead of being made up of upright citizens sworn to uphold the constitution and defend liberty, that the congress is made up of money grubbing whores who by and large would do anything to stay in office, stay in power, and make a buck.

    I know it's a stretch, but go with me on this.

    Now a piece of legislation comes before these whores. Do you honestly think if it hurt their campaign donors at all, or if it did at least also gave them something in return for that hurt, that there is any way this side of a snowball fight in hell it would get through the legislature?

    Now back to reality, which is basically one hair away from the above thought experiment, do you really think any legislation ever was really meant to help you, or me? Government is power. It is violence. It is brute force, and the only reason to employ it is to get through force what you couldn't get through voluntary action. Therefore when legislation pops up, ask who supports it. This holds for almost any piece of legislation that has been visited upon us.

    FDIC and Glass Steagle? FDIC socializes bankers losses. They no longer have to maintain safe balance sheets and when the **** up the tax payers pay their depositors off so the banker can stay flush.

    Anti Trust? Look who was lobbying for it and who uses it now: sour grapes competitors. Well over 80% of all anti trust suits are private complaints.

    Legislation is now and has always been the tool by which the market is manipulated in democracies. And in the progressive era especially a ton of it was passed, supposed public interest legislation, that really does nothing but empower certain businesses at the expense of other businesses and ultimately the consumer.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by CDB View Post
    In that lady's defense, you should not be able to use fresh coffee to smelt iron ore, and that's how hot the **** was. When your server needs asbestos gloves to hand over a cup of joe I think it's possible that the restaurant might want to turn the temp down on their hot plate.
    It's those types of frivilous lawsuits that cost consumers millions every year.

    It's not just the cost of the actual lawsuit, the damages, the lawyer fees. It's printing up signs that should be common sense, documenting every nitnoid detail about darn near everything you do, all kinds of non-value added costs.

    When someone wins a lawsuit like this, WE all pay for it!!

    That's what most people don't understand. They aren't taking the money from the CEO, they're passing the costs on to consumers.

    Tort reform has got to be a key element of any healthcare proposal. Until you cut out the lawyers, you'll never solve anything.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by enswalters View Post
    It's those types of frivilous lawsuits that cost consumers millions every year.
    I wouldn't call McDonald's knowingly serving magma to customers a frivilous claim. Yes, it's known coffee is hot. What isn't known, and what also isn't the subject of reasonable common sense, is that you could use it to heat steel and then hammer it into shape. I mean the woman got SCORCHED man. There's also an issue with assuming cases are frivilous when they really do have some merit.

    Tort reform has got to be a key element of any healthcare proposal. Until you cut out the lawyers, you'll never solve anything.
    I agree. But on the flip side is you don't want to make people immune to reasonable, justified actions taken against them. If some hack cuts you open and sews a dead cat inside of you, you should have a case.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by CDB View Post
    I wouldn't call McDonald's knowingly serving magma to customers a frivilous claim. Yes, it's known coffee is hot. What isn't known, and what also isn't the subject of reasonable common sense, is that you could use it to heat steel and then hammer it into shape.



    I agree. But on the flip side is you don't want to make people immune to reasonable, justified actions taken against them. If some hack cuts you open and sews a dead cat inside of you, you should have a case.
    Right, but the hospital not clipping my new borns nails for fear of a lawsuit is unjustified as well.
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