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    Quote Originally Posted by searl12 View Post
    Whos coming after your wallet? whatever happened to caring for others, even if it costs you a few more $ in taxes, why is everyone so fckn ruthless these Days?

    Just wait everyone, when sickness comes for you, due to your fault or not your fault and you need help! would liek it if everyone simply said Im not helping you? your not worth it? how about this no human life should have a price on it, were all equal, even the homeless, there just as equal to any of us, we all bleed the same....this type of ruthlessness has fcked us all.

    Im just waiting for my yahoo canadian hypacrit then I will never return to this ridiculious thread filled with so many nasty heartless people.

    Love your neighbour? ring a bell? help a stranger? no...anyone?

    pffff
    Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness no where states that the collective will support the collective. DSade pays his families bills and healthcare, why should he pay anyone elses? America was built on personal liberties and freedoms, not propping up the weakest.

    Those few $'s are adding up very quickly. private charities has always helped out the poor with healthcare, why did it work then, and now it is not the answer.

    Call me heartless all you wish, I support my family effectively through hard work, sweat, blood, and tears. I do not expect my family to be cared for by other, and do not want my family to be cared for by others.

    A universal care plan only works if the rich are involved. Try setting that plan up with the poor, and only tax the poor. Not big on redistribution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by searl12 View Post
    Whos coming after your wallet? whatever happened to caring for others, even if it costs you a few more $ in taxes, why is everyone so fckn ruthless these Days?

    Just wait everyone, when sickness comes for you, due to your fault or not your fault and you need help! would liek it if everyone simply said Im not helping you? your not worth it? how about this no human life should have a price on it, were all equal, even the homeless, there just as equal to any of us, we all bleed the same....this type of ruthlessness has fcked us all.

    Im just waiting for my yahoo canadian hypacrit then I will never return to this ridiculious thread filled with so many nasty heartless people.

    Love your neighbour? ring a bell? help a stranger? no...anyone?

    pffff
    I help plenty of people...when I choose and when I can afford it. Come at me with a gun and try to take my resources against my will and you will be treated as the thug you are acting like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by searl12 View Post
    Whos coming after your wallet? whatever happened to caring for others, even if it costs you a few more $ in taxes, why is everyone so fckn ruthless these Days?

    Just wait everyone, when sickness comes for you, due to your fault or not your fault and you need help! would liek it if everyone simply said Im not helping you? your not worth it? how about this no human life should have a price on it, were all equal, even the homeless, there just as equal to any of us, we all bleed the same....this type of ruthlessness has fcked us all.

    Im just waiting for my yahoo canadian hypacrit then I will never return to this ridiculious thread filled with so many nasty heartless people.

    Love your neighbour? ring a bell? help a stranger? no...anyone?

    pffff
    When the government mandates that I pay for someone else's "healthcare", which I already do in medicare and social security taxes, they are forcefully taking my money. I am a generous and giving person. I will give to the charities, friends, families, people I decide, not lazy people on the government handout program. people are ruthless about it because the amount of tax money they have taken over the last few decades haven't done anything to improve the situation. Time and time again, the government has proven itself to be incapable of running a "profitable" organization. When the government spends other people's money on goods or services that someone else is going to use, they don't care what the quality or cost of good or services is. It's called third party spending. you only care about the quality and cost when it's your money being spent on something you are going to use. Otherwise, you aren't harmed in anyway with wasteful spending on crap product or service.

    People talk about spending a couple extra bucks in taxes for everyone else's right to healthcare. Let me ask this. How many people tip their servers 25% regardless of the performance, and if the person is having a bad night, give them more? How many compassionate liberals will actually give some money to the person asking for some? Or better yet, just take them and buy them some food or clothes or a tank of gas.

    http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...c5ZmYxNjI1Zjg=

    Funny how the "compassionates" want to take away the tax deduction for charitable giving yet are going to force people into giving to charity cases on the government handout system.
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    It's a philisophical difference that I don't believe will change as a result of this thread.


    "I'm a hard-working person without insurance. If I'm sick or injured, why should I be denied medical attention or sink into never-ending debt?"

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    "If you can't pay, then screw off....die slowly or let your leg fall off for all I care, just don't tax me."


    Finding a middle ground that is acceptable to both camps is as difficult and delicate an issue as I can think of. I hope the end result isn't too much to the detriment of either side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by searl12 View Post
    IM ACTING LIKE A THUG? your joking right? i dont own a gun, in canada we all dont tote guns...ok?

    I have a clean criminal record...do you? if you dont are you a thug?

    you almost sound like your coming close to threatening me..."come try to make me do this and ill fckn kil lyou" is that how you live your life? if so dude, you belong in prison and if youve never been Im assuming you will be soon enough with that type of attitude, your gun talk doesnt scare me, Ive fired real guns, pop guns dont scare me dude.
    Dude, Chill out... his comments are rhetorical, and you are taking them as being completely serious. Metaphorically speaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JW32Hoops View Post
    Ann Coulter? Oh man, I think I'm gonna puke...

    youngandfree - I've recently lived in NYC and now CA and I can't imagine anywhere else being anything less than a downgrade. I'm sorry you flyover state folks, but it's true. Sure, it's expen$ive as hell...but you get what you pay for. If I wanted a $400/month apartment, I'd move to Oklahoma. But then again, I wouldn't do that......because that would mean I'd have to live in Oklahoma.

    Right now, I work full time, 40 hours a week, and do not receive health insurance. I've got a couple medical issues that I'd like to address, but don't have the $$$ to do so without said insurance.

    We shouldn't be so blind to reality as to think the US system is as good as it can be, nor should we think that the Canadian system is the end-all-be-all either. While the Canadian system may not be perfect, I'm not scared by the anecdotal evidence trotted out by those on this thread, nor the ones being trotted out by the likes of Levin, Savage, Hannity, etc. Oh, you had to wait a few hours in an ER to get stitches? Well, so have I, right here in the good ol US-and-A.
    Of course you aren't scared about universal healthcare. You are going to get it if it goes through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JW32Hoops View Post
    It's a philisophical difference that I don't believe will change as a result of this thread.


    "I'm a hard-working person without insurance. If I'm sick or injured, why should I be denied medical attention or sink into never-ending debt?"

    vs

    "If you can't pay, then screw off....die slowly or let your leg fall off for all I care, just don't tax me."


    Finding a middle ground that is acceptable to both camps is as difficult and delicate an issue as I can think of. I hope the end result isn't too much to the detriment of either side.
    Your separation there is uncanny. You make your beliefs sound like green pasture's and the opposite as brutal ass holes.

    Health care has been provided for free prior to medicare/medicaid. Private charities has always helped the poor and lower income families obtaint he care they needed. Forcing my hand though is asinine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by youngandfree View Post
    Of course you aren't scared about universal healthcare. You are going to get it if it goes through.
    Indeed.
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    ive made my points, and I am not foolish enough to believe that my views are for everyone, and although I may not like them i still listen, I got heated here over an arguement that cannot be won, were all different, thats the beauty of all of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by searl12 View Post
    IM ACTING LIKE A THUG? your joking right? i dont own a gun, in canada we all dont tote guns...ok?

    I have a clean criminal record...do you? if you dont are you a thug?

    you almost sound like your coming close to threatening me..."come try to make me do this and ill fckn kil lyou" is that how you live your life? if so dude, you belong in prison and if youve never been Im assuming you will be soon enough with that type of attitude, your gun talk doesnt scare me, Ive fired real guns, pop guns dont scare me dude.
    Wow...take a pill. I am speaking to a government, and a populace, that holds the misconception that my resources are there for the taking to fill the need of others and if I am not willing to surrender them under the name of socialism, then they will be forcefully taken from me.

    And yes, to them it is a threat that is coming quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    And yes, to them it is a threat that is coming quickly.
    Agreed.

    I fully believe blood will be spilled on the streets of Pennsylvania Ave in our life time if people keep on getting pushed closer and closer to that edge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Wow...take a pill. I am speaking to a government, and a populace, that holds the misconception that my resources are there for the taking to fill the need of others and if I am not willing to surrender them under the name of socialism, then they will be forcefully taken from me.

    And yes, to them it is a threat that is coming quickly.
    my apoligies, as someone who has recently been denied the most basic thing...an x ray for my kidneys I have found myself very short fused on tthis topic, if I offended anyone Im sorry, it just seems silly a contributing member of society has to go without the basics when in his opinion he has payed enough to earn them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    Your separation there is uncanny. You make your beliefs sound like green pasture's and the opposite as brutal ass holes.
    I don't know you guys too well, so I'm not sure if you're *******s or not...was basing my "two opposing schools of thought" on comments like these...


    "Call me heartless all you wish"

    "prove you can pay for it"

    "If ERs could filter out deadbeats..."

    "why do you deserve my dollar to sew up your knees"

    "does your injured hand give you a right to my wallet?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by searl12 View Post
    If anyone sounds like a hug Dsade its you! I sound like someone with a different opinion than you, your response is come make me, if you do Ill trewat you liek a criminal and kill you....and you wonder why some people in the world look down on Americans.

    Such narrow minded my way or the highway attitudes are the reason America is in shambles.
    Let me make something perfectly clear (and I am speaking to the general public and government, not my customer, which I thank)...

    I sacrificed countless hours working and learning. I spent hour upon hour building the business - with those that voluntarily helped that I try to repay. These assets that I have accrued I worked for - YOU didn't. You have zero claim on the fruit my labor. I don't care what laws you are going to pass to try to legalize the theft of my property - it doesn't change the nature of the act....and the way to deal with thieves is through violence.

    I help those that both deserve (hard workers on tough times...ask plenty of people to whom I have sent free stuff) and have fallen on hard luck...and some who have simply asked. However, if someone in need thinks they have a moral imperative to force me to help, then you are sorely mistaken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JW32Hoops View Post
    I don't know you guys too well, so I'm not sure if you're *******s or not...was basing my "two opposing schools of thought" on comments like these...


    "Call me heartless all you wish"

    "prove you can pay for it"

    "If ERs could filter out deadbeats..."

    "why do you deserve my dollar to sew up your knees"

    "does your injured hand give you a right to my wallet?"
    Again, the last line. Please answer that.

    What gives you or ANYONE the RIGHT to my income?

    I am not against people getting health care when they need it. But redistributing wealth to do so is completely unconstitutional and against every fair thought there is. I have and will donate to help out when I deem i can. Uncle Sam taking my money drives me closer to that edge. When have I had any vote in any of the social programs forced on us?

    Have you noticed the seemingly disappearance of food pantries that helped the poor in the past? They always had food to give to the needy. You know why you do not see them anymore... because having 7 kids to get the welfare stipend is much easier than actually trying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JW32Hoops View Post
    I don't know you guys too well, so I'm not sure if you're *******s or not...was basing my "two opposing schools of thought" on comments like these...


    "Call me heartless all you wish"

    "prove you can pay for it"

    "If ERs could filter out deadbeats..."

    "why do you deserve my dollar to sew up your knees"

    "does your injured hand give you a right to my wallet?"
    It may have sounded dikish...but seriously, are you ABLE to answer my question (does your injured hand give you a right to my wallet?) at all? Please show me, if you will, HOW your injury justifies your taking my hard-earned wealth?

    If you can demonstrate it rationally then we have a discussion...if not, we have nothing but idealistic, emotional masturbation going on here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    Agreed.

    I fully believe blood will be spilled on the streets of Pennsylvania Ave in our life time if people keep on getting pushed closer and closer to that edge.
    no offense, but people who do that...will be instantly shot down by police, their causes will get nothing but negaitve attention, and their death s will not be praised, they will be looked at as murderers. im all for standing up to the gov...but I hear this gun talk, blood spilling talk all the time, yet we all just sit at our computers and pretend like we are going to do something.

    I wish it was different, big gov. will soon bring down the US, too much medelling in peoples lives is without a doubt BS! pay your bills, love your family and enjoy your lives, we dont have much control over anything but that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    Again, the last line. Please answer that.

    What gives you or ANYONE the RIGHT to my income?
    Sweet simulpost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by searl12 View Post
    no offense, but people who do that...will be instantly shot down by police, their causes will get nothing but negaitve attention, and their death s will not be praised, they will be looked at as murderers. im all for standing up to the gov...but I hear this gun talk, blood spilling talk all the time, yet we all just sit at our computers and pretend like we are going to do something.

    I wish it was different, big gov. will soon bring down the US, too much medelling in peoples lives is without a doubt BS! pay your bills, love your family and enjoy your lives, we dont have much control over anything but that.
    And what happens when we are no longer able to pay our bills?
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    Quote Originally Posted by searl12 View Post
    no offense, but people who do that...will be instantly shot down by police, their causes will get nothing but negaitve attention, and their death s will not be praised, they will be looked at as murderers. im all for standing up to the gov...but I hear this gun talk, blood spilling talk all the time, yet we all just sit at our computers and pretend like we are going to do something.
    Why do you believe the police and military for that matter will not stand with the revolutionaries and demand a real change?
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    Quote Originally Posted by searl12 View Post
    no offense, but people who do that...will be instantly shot down by police, their causes will get nothing but negaitve attention, and their death s will not be praised, they will be looked at as murderers. im all for standing up to the gov...but I hear this gun talk, blood spilling talk all the time, yet we all just sit at our computers and pretend like we are going to do something.

    I wish it was different, big gov. will soon bring down the US, too much medelling in peoples lives is without a doubt BS! pay your bills, love your family and enjoy your lives, we dont have much control over anything but that.
    Oh... and don't forget... the revolution will not be televised.
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    I agree that we're basically having a political-philisophical circle jerk going on here. What gives the gov't the right to take your hard-earned $ and use it to build a road? Or a bridge? Or to pay for police officers' salaries? Or to do anything? Personally, I believe that the health of our citizens is just as important (and therefore worthy of tax appropriations) as our access to modern roads, bridges, etc. It just seems that these "two camps" draw the lines in different areas of the sand, that's all.

    I'm not in love with being taxed. Ideally, I'd like to see our tax dollars re-apportioned. I'd love for Obama (or any future leader) to bust out a pie chart, Ross Perot style, and show us where each % of our tax dollar goes, and how they'd like to alter it.

    I'm not "at war" with you guys, nor do I want to see "blood spilled" on either side. I think we've rode this merry-go-round long enough. It's been a pleasure duking it out with you gentlemen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JW32Hoops View Post
    I agree that we're basically having a political-philisophical circle jerk going on here. What gives the gov't the right to take your hard-earned $ and use it to build a road? Or a bridge? Or to pay for police officers' salaries? Or to do anything? Personally, I believe that the health of our citizens is just as important (and therefore worthy of tax appropriations) as our access to modern roads, bridges, etc. It just seems that these "two camps" draw the lines in different areas of the sand, that's all.

    I'm not in love with being taxed. Ideally, I'd like to see our tax dollars re-apportioned. I'd love for Obama (or any future leader) to bust out a pie chart, Ross Perot style, and show us where each % of our tax dollar goes, and how they'd like to alter it.

    I'm not "at war" with you guys, nor do I want to see "blood spilled" on either side. I think we've rode this merry-go-round long enough. It's been a pleasure duking it out with you gentlemen.
    Ohhh.. now this is good... Bridges, Roads, Police salaries... all 10th amendments state governmental rights. I was able to vote on the most recent highway expansion here in St. Louis. Where is my ballot for this?

    The 10th Amendment is being stepped all over, this healthcare plan, just like social security, just like any other social program IS NOT a federal matter, it would fall under the state government.
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    There is a world that exists outside of doctors. A world that uses herbs, plants and natural medicines to fix problems that our environments, or diets created.
    We are using chemicals and drugs in this day and age that will innevitably be passed on to our children via our reproductive tissues and the environment that we helped create or perpetuate.

    We will always have bad luck at times (accidents) , that is not the issue. The issue is understanding that doctors dont have the training, compassion and skills necessary to help one live a healthy normal life.

    They are the pushers of the drug industry and when people dont have any knowledge of preventative medicine they always think drugs are the answer.

    I was not attacking suncloud, i have three coworkers who have had their gallbladders removed and am currently doing a two week liver, kidney and gallbladder cleanse that is safe and all natural to AVOID having mine out one day. It was unrealated that i made that statement in this thread when i did but i am infuriated that a doctor would rather carve YOUR ORGANS OUT OF YOUR BODY instead of exploring all other options first.

    I am dissapointed that our hospital and doctors offices are full of sick miserable unhealthy people because its not taught in school and not taught by the doctors on how we are to be healthy.

    Even when you do everything right, there is poison in the air, water, food and items we buy all due to profit and noone speaking up to change it.
    The someone gets sick and or nothing to understand the CAUSE of the problem.

    If you cant get out there and realise that god or the earth have provided for us in everyway and think that science can make chemical drugs that fix problems that chemicals created than you might as well scroll past my posts.

    Everything has a cause and that is what needs to be addressed by every individual.

    How many people do a seasonal cleanse, detox or cleanse their organs?
    Eating organic food is good but is not enough when we breathe in chemicals absorb them through items we buy and drink it in our water and eat it in our food.
    Stress alone can make anyone sick so we have an obligation to our mind, soul and body to stay healthy.

    Almost every person in my family has cancer and my grandfather is dying right now, my aunt has no ovaries or uterus and my grandmother had her breasts removed. My dad has colon cancer and my mother has had cysts removed. We live in a forestry and industry based community where oil refineries, pulp mills, saw mills and other indstrial buisnesses operate in a bowl alongside the community and we have air advisory warnings most days.

    The solution to this is not more drugs from a doctor it is detoxifying and moving out of the bowl to avoid further absorbtion and consumption from the toxic environment and air.

    Or i can just eat pills and whine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by searl12 View Post
    agreed, we disagree, but Id go to war with any of you, our 2 countries are involved in the Biggest offensive yet in Afghanistan....so obviously we get along somewhat.
    off topic......here....
    But God I hope they let that American infantrymen go...I know there style so i wont put to much faith in that, lets focus our frustration on the real problem , the real enemy....the religion Of Islam!

    google prophet of doom, the truth is there.

    Im channeling my h8 towrds that these days!
    Omg islam? riight no wonder i take exception to your posts your quite unintelligent and brainwashed so im sure nothing is really appreciated that i say since you are a puppet.
    So now its eat pills, whine and kill brown people cause they are evil right?
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    No, it's kill afghani terrorists that try to kill us first. It doesn't really matter what color they are.
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    Omg islam? riight no wonder i take exception to your posts your quite unintelligent and brainwashed so im sure nothing is really appreciated that i say since you are a puppet.
    So now its eat pills, whine and kill brown people cause they are evil right?
    www.prophetofdoom.com

    I need not say any more because after hearing this if you arent convinced then you are the one brainwashed and you are the puppet..

    At least I pick a side, its people like you who have allowed immigration to destroy the identity of our countries.

    sorry about your families medical sttruggles, I dont like you one bit, but I do hope your family members overcome their health problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by searl12 View Post
    www.prophetofdoom.com

    I need not say any more because after hearing this if you arent convinced then you are the one brainwashed and you are the puppet..

    At least I pick a side, its people like you who have allowed immigration to destroy the identity of our countries.

    sorry about your families medical sttruggles, I dont like you one bit, but I do hope your family members overcome their health problems.
    blah blah blah thats all i hear from you, seriously are you an adult? I have let immigration destroy my country? Hey to me people are people i dont care what color they are and i dont go around killing people cause they might , potentially, in the future want to harm me.

    should i go kill my neighbor cause he has knives and guns in his house? should i kill him cause he spanks his kids, lol?

    You really dont get it, killing people only teaches people to kill people. There is no life preservation accomplished by killing people for oil.

    I am nobodies puppet and my thoughts are my own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by somewhatgifted View Post
    blah blah blah thats all i hear from you, seriously are you an adult? I have let immigration destroy my country? Hey to me people are people i dont care what color they are and i dont go around killing people cause they might , potentially, in the future want to harm me.

    I am nobodies puppet and my thoughts are my own.
    People are people, yet in your opinion if they get sick due to their poor diet you arent paying for them, do you see any hypocracy in any of what you have said at all?

    Are you an Albertan? you sure sound like one. I havent killed anyone I see what its doing to our country and I dont like it, too bad if it offends you, theres lots of people who feel the same way!

    All I see from you is bla bla bla, herb this, cleanse this, me that, your thought sure are your own because most people dont think like you, you sound like an Albertan hick, ft McMurray? poor guy, i feel sorry for you, wake up to reality man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by searl12 View Post
    People are people, yet in your opinion if they get sick due to their poor diet you arent paying for them, do you see any hypocracy in any of what you have said at all?

    Are you an Albertan? you sure sound like one. I havent killed anyone I see what its doing to our country and I dont like it, too bad if it offends you, theres lots of people who feel the same way!

    All I see from you is bla bla bla, herb this, cleanse this, me that, your thought sure are your own because most people dont think like you, you sound like an Albertan hick, ft McMurray? poor guy, i feel sorry for you, wake up to reality man.
    If someone is in a river drowing, and you do not save him....that is not the same as actively killing him. you dn't seem to grasp the fundamental difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by searl12 View Post
    People are people, yet in your opinion if they get sick due to their poor diet you arent paying for them, do you see any hypocracy in any of what you have said at all?

    Are you an Albertan? you sure sound like one. I havent killed anyone I see what its doing to our country and I dont like it, too bad if it offends you, theres lots of people who feel the same way!

    All I see from you is bla bla bla, herb this, cleanse this, me that, your thought sure are your own because most people dont think like you, you sound like an Albertan hick, ft McMurray? poor guy, i feel sorry for you, wake up to reality man.

    I dont live in alberta bro, i am not a hick, thats a generalisation that ignorant people use. I never said anything about not paying for sick people, everyone pays income tax, we have no choice.

    Your trying to paint me as a villian when i said that the system doesnt educate people so people need to educate themselves. Its this blind trust in doctors and politicians and government that is either from laziness or ignorance that is the problem. If you belive what you see on the news you wont have a clue about the real world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    If someone is in a river drowing, and you do not save him....that is not the same as actively killing him. you dn't seem to grasp the fundamental difference.
    I would save him then id say "are you ok" then "what the hell are you doing in the river?" I might be pissed that i lose my cell phone but its a no brainer.
    Doesnt mean i need to be happy about it if someone cant take care of themselves they can certainly drag you down with them.

    If they fell in or slipped its different than jumping in to look cool or becasue they didnt look first.
    How many times should we save people from drowning when they keep jumping in the river and hoping that others will save them?

    You have to educte and take care of yourself, that is whats wrong with my countries system.

    We are the country, we are the problem if there is one. Start in your own backyard before you trash talk anothers yard. Thats why we shouldnt be in a war we have homeless, sick, poor and uneducated kids those issues are immediatly detrimental.
    This whole war was sold, never neccessary and some people took it hook line and sinker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by somewhatgifted View Post
    I dont live in alberta bro, i am not a hick, thats a generalisation that ignorant people use. I never said anything about not paying for sick people, everyone pays income tax, we have no choice.

    Your trying to paint me as a villian when i said that the system doesnt educate people so people need to educate themselves. Its this blind trust in doctors and politicians and government that is either from laziness or ignorance that is the problem. If you belive what you see on the news you wont have a clue about the real world.
    fair enough man, but you do realize my beef with you came after you nastely scolded me for having a quarrel with my healthcare....you called me "one of those people" as in a freeloader, part of the problem, when im not, i have a slight kidney problem...and I need my healthcare to be there for me for one of the first times in my lives ok? be careful about your words man one day you might have to eat them. im no freeloader and I am not the problem in this country, clean record, bills paid, taxes paid etc etc. i just got frustrated when i was told to wait a ridiculious amount of time for an x ray...thats all , this has gotten was over blown, all i care about is that you insulted me and blamed me for my ailment, thats insulting and just plain ignorant of you, id put my physical athletic shape and diet up against most, i simply need some medical attention that doesnt seem anywhere near to coming to me.

    Ive had enough, jus because I think im right doesnt mean I am, and the same goes for you dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by searl12 View Post
    fair enough man, but you do realize my beef with you came after you nastely scolded me for having a quarrel with my healthcare....you called me "one of those people" as in a freeloader, part of the problem, when im not, i have a slight kidney problem...and I need my healthcare to be there for me for one of the first times in my lives ok? be careful about your words man one day you might have to eat them. im no freeloader and I am not the problem in this country, clean record, bills paid, taxes paid etc etc. i just got frustrated when i was told to wait a ridiculious amount of time for an x ray...thats all , this has gotten was over blown, all i care about is that you insulted me and blamed me for my ailment, thats insulting and just plain ignorant of you, id put my physical athletic shape and diet up against most, i simply need some medical attention that doesnt seem anywhere near to coming to me.

    Ive had enough, jus because I think im right doesnt mean I am, and the same goes for you dude.

    Do you know you can do a 20$ kidney cleanse and slightly alter your diet to support and heal your kidneys?
    Are you on medication? It may prolong you but toxic drugs will hurt you in other ways. That is my point, the system wont tell you that so you need to get out there and think for yourself and realise when your being led down the wrong path.
    I dont know you but i am very confident that there are solutions that you can find away from the system that has you so frustrated.
    If you are frustrated is probably becasue you realise that its fundametally flawed and inneffective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by somewhatgifted View Post
    I would save him then id say "are you ok" then "what the hell are you doing in the river?" I might be pissed that i lose my cell phone but its a no brainer.
    Doesnt mean i need to be happy about it if someone cant take care of themselves they can certainly drag you down with them.

    If they fell in or slipped its different than jumping in to look cool or becasue they didnt look first.
    How many times should we save people from drowning when they keep jumping in the river and hoping that others will save them?

    You have to educte and take care of yourself, that is whats wrong with my countries system.

    We are the country, we are the problem if there is one. Start in your own backyard before you trash talk anothers yard. Thats why we shouldnt be in a war we have homeless, sick, poor and uneducated kids those issues are immediatly detrimental.
    This whole war was sold, never neccessary and some people took it hook line and sinker.
    and your the same guy who would never serve, and probably doesnt support our soldiers....good for you, never pick a side, god you make me sick!
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    And if not Alberta.....is it sudbury? I just am dying to know where someone like you calls home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by searl12 View Post
    and your the same guy who would never serve, and probably doesnt support our soldiers....good for you, never pick a side, god you make me sick!
    So i should kill people when i dont support the reason for the war? i should support soldiers who are killing and dying for a casue i think is based on greed? well your sickness is in your head not mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by somewhatgifted View Post
    So i should kill people when i dont support the reason for the war? i should support soldiers who are killing and dying for a casue i think is based on greed? well your sickness is in your head not mine.
    So now we have a guy who doesnt pick a side, chooses none over his own, and doesnt support his own countrys soldiers
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    WOW! you call yourself Canadian, are you a PROUD CANADIAN?

    it isnt even about wrong or right, even if were wrong I still choose my guys and MY COUNTRY , you are pathetic man, its laughable, it really is, i should bump this so all the canadian s on here can see how much of a coward you are...youd rather support the enemy instead of your own soldiers.

    this is disgusting man! wow! im gonna throw up, you d be the same type as In vietnam to spit on them too cause you didnt agree with the war.

    you sir are pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by searl12 View Post
    And if not Alberta.....is it sudbury? I just am dying to know where someone like you calls home.
    Your ability to categorize people into groups is awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by somewhatgifted View Post
    I was not attacking suncloud, i have three coworkers who have had their gallbladders removed
    nobody is saying you attacked me my posts were after yours, so unless you are jedi trained in preemptive strike, i have no complaints against you.

    you're not a jedi right?
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