Obama's White House is Falling Down
- 07-01-2009, 04:29 PM
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07-01-2009, 08:22 PM
If you haven't read revelation, or find it hard to make sense of it, there is a fantastic series out called Left Behind. It's written by Dr. Tim LaHaye. It is a fiction story that illustrates what is going to happen as layed out in Revelation. There is a movie series that makes it visual and really makes you think about what is going to happen in the world when God says it is time. It is really eye opening just visually seeing how things are going to happen.
Rippedforce, I don't blame you one bit for being disenfranchised with the catholic church, or any church for that matter. What you have to remember is that it isn't about one set of "church" beliefs, rules, philosophies. It's about what God has to say. Everything that happened in the new testament was predicted in the old. Everything that happened to Jesus was predicted before Jesus was ever born. So it's important to remember, that everything that is layed out in revelation is going to happen, it's just a matter of when. Some believe that the time is getting near. Joel Rosenberg has done some great research that ties things that have been happening in the world, middle east in particular, to the events that are layed out in revelation.
So no matter what church affiliation you might have, or don't have, the future is still layed out. I don't put much credibility in any church or denomination that makes their own "rules". Denominations were generally started when someone became disenfranchised and decided I will just start my own church.
Were there groups and civilizations that were worse off than we are now? Absolutely. How did God deal with them once they got completely out of hand? Sodom and Gommorah ring a bell?
We are definitely heading to hell in a handbasket, moreso than any other time in American history. Just make sure you know where you are going to spend eternity, because you never know when it will too late to make the most important decision in your life.
07-01-2009, 08:52 PM
07-01-2009, 09:05 PM
07-01-2009, 09:19 PM
I didn't mean the left behind series was word for word accurate, I just meant the story depicts the main points that are layed out. Character stories and specifics are fictional, but the premise reflects what's written. I haven't read the books, just seen the movies.
If the believers are taken in rapture, and the unbelievers have to endure the tribulation, then yes, both theories are correct.
Your personal decision is the most important. It's not about joining a church or religion, it's about what God can do in your life and how you can be a blessing to others. Jesus is the one that can change people's hearts, break addictions, and radically change your life.
07-01-2009, 11:25 PM
07-02-2009, 05:51 AM
If the country was so moral back in the "good ole days". I guess the lynching and deaths of tens of thousands of blacks in america would be considered a faux pas or internment camps set up to house thousands of japanese americans during world war 2. Or women being considered second class citizens until the dawn of the twentieth century. History should not be looked at thru rose colored glasses.
07-02-2009, 06:32 AM
As for women being second class. I personally do not believe women should be allowed to be soldiers/cops. Other than that, everything else I hope they get into and succeed. Doctors, business owners, etc, etc... I watch too many shows with female officers getting easily overpowered even with their mace and tazers. Its not a job they are built for.
Same thing with soldiers. I honor them equally now that they are in, but I am also happy they are not allowed to be infantry or SF atm. At least last time I checked. Not because I believe they CANT, but its just programmed in guys to "Protect the Women" its the way we are, how we are supposed to care. This creates all kind of screw ups in war, such as cases in Iraq and such. If a women is in trouble, orders and such become second priority because nature kicks in.
Not that they arent crack shots(some of the best shots in the world are from great female shooters on the ranges), or some of them are not amazing at combat(though most are not) the ratios are alot different. a 180 lb man vs a 200 lb enemy is hard enough, but a 140 lb girl vs a 200 lb enemy is...well...over before it begins in close combat. Most military girls are NOT built limber enough to count martial arts as a benefit. I know, been there, seen em. Its just lucky we areny in a war that is massive enough to cause casualties into the 100,000's like WWII. Sorry this is likely just the part of me that says we are supposed to protect them, at all costs. This is not their job to die. ITs a mans duty. SO if a man dies, its not no where near as sad. We have burried fathers and sons since the dawn of man in war. But not mothers daughters. Its just not right to have to do that.
History should be learned from. Honestly today though, every equal rights leader is Crapping in their graves. Martin Luther King would have a heart attack if he was not dead, and womens rights leaders would see that the freedoms they instilled also brought about strip clubs and the such and the modern slut and would likely set about beating the crap out of those women themselves.
Human nature is this: Once we get a foot, we want a mile. And once we taste freedom, we want more than just that.
I wish women could have had their rights without becoming what they have, men could have given more to others without becoming needy on substance/fun, and race could truly be erased and we all be one=mankind.
Cant happen, and its too late to do anything about it. The world is built in a suicide frenzy guaranteed to finish us off eventually. We can no longer fix criminals, race cant be erased because everyone thinks they are owed something by someone else be them white/black/tan/whatever. Death is so overly feared is BS.
Honestly, you want to fix some of the problems, kill off 60% of the earths population. No more energy crisis, or starvation, wipe out the ones with diseases and STD's or who would be rabble rousers. And the world would improve a thousand fold. Do away with excess technology. Things would run smoother. But that really is not an option. I dont want 4 billion deaths on my hand, so I guess we will just let destiny unfold.
People complain of death of the past, when it is death of the future they should focus on.
See death is always viewed as "The Problem" when all the time it has been the answer. Because the only way you get out of this hell hole, is to die.
I am in no way racist/sexist or anything if any of that accidentally came off that way. I support universal equality, but certain things, even Biblicaly speaking, should be accepted. Really all that applies to modesty and the soldier/cop thing.
ITs all I want I want I want. Such as what atheists and other religions have done to America. Raped it and left it a soulless empty nation.
Politics can take a .45 and blow its brains out. Freedom of religion yes, but I believe in a national religion. If you dont like the pledge of allegiance, then cover your ears instead of your heart.
07-02-2009, 08:46 AM
07-02-2009, 09:03 AM
"My fellow Americans,
"I'm here to speak to you today and let you know, all that stuff I promised, well it's got to go. No free health care, no jobs, nada. What's more, we're going to raise taxes on everyone, especially working class people. We're also cutting entitlements, especially social security, medicare, medicaid. I know all this comes as a shock to you, but we must do it, we must tighten our belts.
"Because you see, the Chinese need their money, and we Americans are good for our debts people. We borrowed a ****load of money and used it to fund the biggest spending bender this side of reality, and now it's time to pay the piper, who in this case speaks Mandarin..."
Bull****. We'll call the Chinese predatory lenders, demand they 'modify' our debt our we'll find some way to repudiate it, and there will be likely some severe military tensions if not out and out war which will probably revolve around Korea. And everyone in the US, being dumb ****s and thinking war is a way to prosperity, will be all for it.
The only ray of hope right now are two bills sitting in the house and senate, that prompt an audit of The Fed. If people see the real thief behind the curtain they may go another way, but I doubt it. Even if it passes the rhetoric surrounding The Fed's actions will be keynesian and/or monetarist in nature, few if anyone will likely demand they stop the printing presses.
07-02-2009, 09:12 AM
Is there a loss of standards in the world? Perhaps. Problem is, every generation has said that about the upcoming generation since the begining of time. The world has been going to hell because of the kids for the last few millenia it seems. To me this argument is nothing more than defering blame to the essentially powerless. It is the working public of voting age that controls everything, sets standards, etc. The kids' failures are really their failures.
07-02-2009, 09:21 AM
If you want your religion to be as strong as possible you need to stop complaining about the actions of others, stop implying and/or demanding the state force them to conform, and set your own example and standard of success by abiding by the principles you hold hear. Grant to the state the power to force conformity, you run the risk of people getting into power who disagree with you, and they will then begin to decimate the beliefs and standards you hold dear by forcing nonconformity with them and taking from you the power to set and keep your own standards.
07-02-2009, 09:36 AM
Your more moral world comes with too many niggers in nooses, ***s lying dead in trenches, and women in graves, all of them robbed of their potential by your ****ed up piece of **** utopia. I'll take today's less moral world over that any day.
07-02-2009, 09:37 AM
07-02-2009, 09:41 AM
And they wanted it kept free from the federal government. Several state churches were already established at the time of ratification and no one saw that as incompatible with the constitution. Then as now, immgration patterns held and like minded people tended to stick together, states were very homogenous when it came to their religion. As such... "I consider the government of the United States as interdicted by the Constitution from intermeddling with religious institutions, their doctrines, discipline, or exercises. This results not only from the provision that no law shall be made respecting the establishment or free exercise of religion, but from that also which reserves to the states the powers not delegated to the United States. Certainly, no power to prescribe any religious exercise or to assume authority in religious discipline has been delegated to the General Government. It must then rest with the states, as far as it can be in any human authority." --Thomas Jefferson
07-02-2009, 09:57 AM
07-02-2009, 10:25 AM
07-02-2009, 10:33 AM
07-02-2009, 10:42 AM
the raising of minimum wage is part of what is pulling our economy down. The people who know a thing or two about economics and how the government works are at their office somewhere, and the people who have no clue, but just want more money have time to go vote for the raised minimum wage. It creates a surplus of workers, lowers the standard of living, and just is a dumb idea.... but the government doesn't want all the mcdonalds workers to know that they are actually digging themselves deeper in the hole.
If this country does go down the path of socialism, which it appears to be slowly doing, it will get ugly. Universal health care is just not an option, and if tax's are lowered that means somewhere else something is going up that you pay for. It is all strategy the government plays.
I am neither conservative or liberal, as their are certain things I like/dislike about either party, but damn... as our population is getting poorer and poorer, and the uneducated group is growing it is just going to continue to get worse unless someone explains to them exactly what is happening to them.
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07-02-2009, 10:57 AM
Minimum wage is the chiuaua of economics. It's something that makes a lot of noise and you oppose on technical grounds, but really doesn't add up to much. Yes, technically it leads to a surplus of labor at the margins. Bottom line though is that tendency has likely been overshadowed by inflation and regulation. Or, put otherwise, congress is not likely to raise the minimum wage by X amount until X amount is marginally meaningless thanks to inflation, and their labor regulations other than minimum wage probably have more to do with denying people the opportunity to work than minimum wage itself.
07-02-2009, 11:06 AM
07-02-2009, 11:21 AM
07-02-2009, 11:23 AM
Here is something to think about and off topic when it comes to religion and gov't. But is relevant to Obama being out of control. Friday, the House passed the Cap and Tax bill, after adding 300 pages of amendments at 3am on friday morning, then calling for a vote 9 hours later. No one that voted could have possibly read the entire 1000 pages, let alone the 300 pages added at 3 am. When Nancy Pelosi was asked if she would post the "Obama Care" plan on the gov't website for everyone to see for 5 days, like Obama himself promised would be done on any legislation, before calling for a vote, she simply said "NO." Obama is trying to ram so much through before enough people open their eyes and wake up to what is going on and try to change course. He knows his days are numbered when it comes to having a free pass and his popularity ratings stay high. And by staging a "town hall" at the White House with handpicked supporters and selectively reading questions that were submitted "by the people" that only support your agenda, is hardly verification that everyone in America wants "change".
Cap and Tax: Tim Kaine, head of DNC, Governor of VA was asked if a Cap and Tax policy would be ideal for the commonwealth of Va. He said of course, no way. It would be a job killer, and force companies to move jobs to countries that don't have such nonsense taxes. Why is it not good for "his" state, while he is in charge, but it is a good idea for the Feds to impose it on the entire country? The very same reason it's bad for VA is the reason it's bad for the entire country. But Kaine, and Mark Warner and Jim Webb are puppets to Obama's machine and are willing to sacrifice the entire country to further his agenda, but wouldn't consider doing it at the state level if VA was the only state affected.
07-02-2009, 11:31 AM
So I'm curious... what are yalls thoughts on the Usury laws he just passed, even though those are among the worst things to do IMO.
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