I'm Pre-Approved for an ObamaCard!
- 05-23-2009, 05:56 PM
Suncloud I agree with you entirely, the point I was making was that if we as a country do not soon limit the illegal immigrants and begin giving harsher punishments to those who are here illegally already we risk creating a general feeling where society turns against immigrants as a whole, In my opinion this would be a huge loss, hell a lot of our doctors are immigrants, we rely on foreign foreign language teachers the list goes on...I apologize if my point came across badly in my earlier post ive been studying this whole day and im extremely tired..
- 05-23-2009, 06:11 PM
I'll just sum it up...
Legal Immigrants ARE the United States!
...illegal immigrants effing suck and need to leave.
- 05-23-2009, 06:16 PM
Only to a certain degree my friend- I guess it depends on your views, if you dont mind me asking is there a "dole" in america? basically do the government give you money if you arent working?
05-23-2009, 09:22 PM
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05-26-2009, 04:37 PM
05-26-2009, 08:38 PM
Obama has not, and will not, do all that he said or even all that he wants. He certainly is not going to do all that you want. He's going to mess up and he's going to do things everyone disagrees with. To pretend he hasn't done anything he said is simply dishonest.
On some of these things you can argue that he hasn't come through, but I can do the same for many of your points. The reason is simply: most of these are not simple issues and there are not going to be simple answers.
By the way, there are many things I disagree with Obama on (guns) and things he should take a stand on (homosexual marriage). There are also things that McCain said I agree with.
05-26-2009, 09:12 PM
Here is a great introduction to fascism (thx wiki):
Fascism comprises a radical and authoritarian nationalist political ideology and a corporatist economic ideology. Fascists advocate the creation of a single-party state. Fascists believe that nations and/or races are in perpetual conflict whereby only the strong can survive by being healthy, vital, and by asserting themselves in combat against the weak. Fascist governments forbid and suppress criticism and opposition to the government and the fascist movement. Fascism opposes class conflict, blames capitalist liberal democracies for its creation and communists for exploiting the concept. In the economic sphere, many fascist leaders have claimed to support a "Third Way" in economic policy, which they believed superior to both the rampant individualism of unrestrained capitalism and the severe control of state communism. This was to be acheived by a form of government control over business and labor (called "the corporate state" by Mussolini)No common and concise definition exists for fascism and historians and political scientists disagree on what should be in any concise definition.
This description is EERILY reflective of the Obama administration. The administration responds rabidly to criticism by critical media personalities (intimidation), his spending is all aimed at statist goals (that's why they had to urgently "rush" these "bailouts" which don't actually take effect until after the projected economic turnaround). The only one which doesn't fit the bill for Obama is opposition to class conflict--he encourages class conflict.
The Bush admin sucked, but so did the previous 3 of 4 administrations [Clinton admin --> real estate bubble / stated income loans / high risk mortgages / etc = Clinton + Carter. If you deny that you're absolutely uneducated on the issue. While private corporations had disgusting people taking advantage of the situation, it ultimately came down to the Clinton + Carter + Fanny Mae (staffed by Clinton)]. And, just because his admin sucked doesn't mean we could have done better considering we only had two options in 2000 and 2004- Gore and Kerry are prime examples of self-serving idiots (although I'd take Kerry over Obama).
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