America, I want a divorce!

[Irish Cannon]

My sister sent this to me. I got a kick out of it...

Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists and Obama supporters,

et al. We have stuck together since the late 1950s, but the whole of this latest election process

has made me realize that I want a divorce.

I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations,

but sadly, this relationship has run its course. Our two ideological sides of America

cannot and will not ever agree on what is right so let's just end it on friendly terms. We can
smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way. Here is a model

separation agreement:

Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass, each taking a portion.

That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement.

After that, it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide

other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes.

We don't like redistributive taxes so you can keep them.

You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU.

Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military.

You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore and Rosie O'Donnell (You are, however, responsible for

finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them).

We'll keep the capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart

and Wall Street.

You can have your beloved homeless, homeboys, hippies and illegal aliens. We'll keep

the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO's and rednecks. We'll keep the Bibles and

give you NBC and Hollywood .

You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we'll retain the right to invade and hammer

places that threaten us.

You can have the peaceniks and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are

under assault, we'll help provide them security.

We'll keep our Judeo-Christian values.. You are welcome to Islamic Terrorists,

Scientology, Humanism and Shirley McClain.

You can also have the U.N.. but we will no longer be paying the bill.

We'll keep the SUVs, pickup trucks and oversized luxury cars. You can take every

Subaru station wagon you can find.

You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any practicing doctors. We'll continue

to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right.

We'll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem.

I'm sure you'll be happy to substitute Imagine, I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing,

Kum Ba Ya or We Are the World.

We'll practice trickle down economics and you can give trickle up poverty your best shot.

Since it often so offends you, we'll keep our history, our name and our flag.

Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along to other like minded liberal and

conservative patriots and if you do not agree, just hit delete.

In the spirit of friendly parting, I'll bet you ANWAR which one of us will need whose

help in 15 years.

Sincerely,

John J. Wall
Law Student and an American

P.S. Also, please take Barbara Streisand & Jane Fonda with you.

 

[TexasTitan]

If only. Id love the south to secede.

 

[Jaegernaut]

so basiclly they want all the closed minded bigots and bible thumppers and we get the rest? Deal

 

[suncloud]

If only. Id love the south to secede.

yep. let california go, with 1/10 of the population, and 1/7 of the economy i'd be glad to stop paying for the rest of the states

 

[Irish Cannon]

so basiclly they want all the closed minded bigots and bible thumppers and we get the rest? Deal

Ha!

:tool:

 

[nopeace]

Everyone need's to start waking up!

It does not matter who would have won the Election! Obama or McCain?

Some else is pulling the strings!

Has anyone noticed a steady decline in our freedoms? Or how well the FED Reserve is defended even thought it's ripping off our country! Our right to defend ourselves is the final target.

Obama is NOTHING different than Bush. We still are in Iraq/Afghanistan and our Bill of Rights is worthless! You think McCain would have changed anything? FaKK NO! We would still have NO CIVIL liberties, Martial Law and more pointless wars followed by fear mongering.

Dem or Rep? Left or Rigth? It makes no difference, the Media is owned by 4 Corporations that push one agenda.

If the Citizens of this country have not opened their eyes to the International Banking Cartels that run our country, we are doomed to be slaves. There are many citizens that are aware of this crisis and are starting to alert others.

Please for the Love of our Republic, do some research beyond what CNN/Fox is telling you!

 

[nopeace]

As far as this goes, 20 states have declared sovereignty because the Federal Government is out of control.

 

[Jimmy Alto]

This is stupid on so many levels.

 

[Jaegernaut]

Ha!

:tool:

I'm a tool because I can stereotype and bash an entire group of people just because of thier beliefs? Well right back at ya bud and I'll throw in a :bling1:

 

[EasyEJL]

I'm a tool because I can stereotype and bash an entire group of people just because of thier beliefs? Well right back at ya bud and I'll throw in a :bling1:

Gee doesn't that sound exactly like what you accuse "those close minded bigots" of? But because you are "enlightened and progressive" its ok?

 

[EasyEJL]

 

[Jimmy Alto]

Gee doesn't that sound exactly like what you accuse "those close minded bigots" of? But because you are "enlightened and progressive" its ok?

I think the entire point of his post was to point out the blatant hypocrisy of Irish Cannon calling Jaegernaut a tool for stereotyping an entire group of people when his post had done the exact same.

 

[AE14]

All I will say is that this is a foolish thread.

Thank you

 

[nopeace]

All I will say is that this is a foolish thread.

Thank you

Democrats vs. Republicans

Silly Americans, you actually think they are different.

it's more like or should be like:

U.S. Citizens Vs. Banking Interests.

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[Irish Cannon]

Democrats vs. Republicans

Silly Americans, you actually think they are different.

it's more like or should be like:

U.S. Citizens Vs. Banking Interests.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.0.8) Gecko/2009032609 Firefox/3.0.8

Ya, because all US Citizens think exactly alike.

 

[Troymm]

pretty funny

 

[RobInKuwait]

Sounds good to me. Whats the over/under on how long before Liberalland begs the IMF for a bailout.

 

[TexasTitan]

so basiclly they want all the closed minded bigots and bible thumppers and we get the rest? Deal

If thats how you see it, enjoy your new country. Damn those religious people and people who believe in tradition over personal indulgence.

yep. let california go, with 1/10 of the population, and 1/7 of the economy i'd be glad to stop paying for the rest of the states

Youre economy is a house of cards built on a sand foundation. Texas is still growing. Youre still crumbling. I would love to see how long it takes before you get to a trillion dollars in debt as a state on your own. I give it 2.5 years.

And I would DEFININTLY let the people of california go. I wouldnt drop that, Id throw it down.

As far as this goes, 20 states have declared sovereignty because the Federal Government is out of control.

I wonder why.

 

[Distilled Water]

I never usually come around the politic threads here but because of this one......I think I may start. Glad to see my two hommies holding it down in here too.

 

[Mulletsoldier]

This one time, at band camp.....

 

[suncloud]

Youre economy is a house of cards built on a sand foundation. Texas is still growing. Youre still crumbling. I would love to see how long it takes before you get to a trillion dollars in debt as a state on your own. I give it 2.5 years.

And I would DEFININTLY let the people of california go. I wouldnt drop that, Id throw it down.

the moment anything from hollywood would be imported out and you guys would have to pay a TAX for watching it i welcome the chance.

as far as california crumbling, its because 4 states - cali, texas, florida, and new york comprise 40% of the US economy. california is crumbling because it supports 10 other states to do nothing except hold themselves afloat. yes, texas will be OK, but you're already in the top 10 states for education. california isn't in the top 25. i'd welcome a chance to change that. i'd bet with better education, california could do even better than 150% of texas' economy.


GDP by state (in millions)....2007
1 California 1,812,968
2 Texas 1,141,965
3 New York 1,103,024
4 Florida 734,519
5 Illinois 609,570
etc, down to...
47 S Dakota 33,934
48 Wyoming 31,514
49 N Dakota 27,725
50 Vermont 24,543

$16 billion dollar budget deficit my hiney. one of our valley's grows more food that north dakota, and we don't get federal aid to do it

notice that vermont is at the bottom of the list for GDP, yet its in the top 5 ranked states for public schools.

 

[Distilled Water]

california isn't in the top 25. i'd welcome a chance to change that. i'd bet with better education, california could do even better than 150% of texas' economy.
\

It never will be tho.

 

[kjkriston]

After living in southern california for 5 years I think I have apretty good understanding as to the objectives of the state. Liberal! Period! Gays, anti-smoking, green is good, bio-deisel, hug a tree, I smoke pot, California! Being one of the biggest states in union would be WHY you have one of the highest GDPs. Not because you support it better.! If NY or Mass. or Chi-town was half as big as your big 3 (SD, LA, and SF) they would contribute just as much if not more!

 

[suncloud]

It never will be tho.

it should be. it should be the community that supports the most, gets the most. the only thing we seem to get is the criminals moving to warmer climates that we get to house.

 

[Distilled Water]

it should be. it should be the community that supports the most, gets the most. the only thing we seem to get is the criminals moving to warmer climates that we get to house.

Well call me crazy but isn't that what capitalism is all about? However you seem somewhat liberal which would mean you support ur guy's trickle up economics? Please correct me if im wrong

I was talking more about the schools. Sadly numbers show high minoirty, highly populated cities have the worst education numbers so the money probably wont ever be there. The city of detroit is looking to have to close almost 50% of their public schools because the state and fed dont want to invest in somthing that will, more than likely fail. Detroit has about a 22% graduation rate. See what im saying? I hope that made sense.

 

[kjkriston]

Well call me crazy but isn't that what capitalism is all about? However you seem somewhat liberal which would mean you support ur guy's trickle up economics? Please correct me if im wrong

I was talking more about the schools. Sadly numbers show high minoirty, highly populated cities have the worst education numbers so the money probably wont ever be there. The city of detroit is looking to have to close almost 50% of their public schools because the state and fed dont want to invest in somthing that will, more than likely fail. Detroit has about a 22% graduation rate. See what im saying? I hope that made sense.

This is not aimed at you DW....Trickle up economics is a very Marxist idea.....so..let me get it straight....I being a little man...making 50g's a year...need the help of the 50 year old man who has worked his ass of for 30 years to make 500K a year because I deserve it....? What? So when I am 50 and am making that much money I should just give it to the guy who needs more...? WTF? I guess my college education and desire to succeed and provide for my family means nothing cuz joe schmoe couldnt make it and needs my help? Sounds like the Libs are living in the wrong country. you need not stars and bars but sickles and hammers!

 

[suncloud]

After living in southern california for 5 years I think I have apretty good understanding as to the objectives of the state. Liberal! Period! Gays, anti-smoking, green is good, bio-deisel, hug a tree, I smoke pot, California! Being one of the biggest states in union would be WHY you have one of the highest GDPs. Not because you support it better.! If NY or Mass. or Chi-town was half as big as your big 3 (SD, LA, and SF) they would contribute just as much if not more!

would you rather do this by capita? we're still in the top ten, and that's without a good education program.

1 Vermont….. 3,600.16
2 Hawaii….. 3,477.93
3 Wyoming….. 3,417.77
4 Connecticut….. 3,300.49
5 Minnesota….. 3,093.93
6 Delaware….. 3,068.98
7 Massachusetts….. 2,818.39
8 Alaska….. 2,798.66
9 New Jersey….. 2,781.33
10 California….. 2,724.31

i found you at the number 26th spot

26 North Carolina….. 2,146.68

i'm not trying to be an ass here, i find it remarkable that you're number 26, and california is number 26 in education - that's the disparity that i'm pointing out.

 

[Distilled Water]

This is not aimed at you DW....Trickle up economics is a very Marxist idea.....so..let me get it straight....I being a little man...making 50g's a year...need the help of the 50 year old man who has worked his ass of for 30 years to make 500K a year because I deserve it....? What? So when I am 50 and am making that much money I should just give it to the guy who needs more...? WTF? I guess my college education and desire to succeed and provide for my family means nothing cuz joe schmoe couldnt make it and needs my help? Sounds like the Libs are living in the wrong country. you need not stars and bars but sickles and hammers!

Amen brother.

After reading through these threads I see a trend where all threads turn into the same debate.....but thats cool with me.

 

[suncloud]

Well call me crazy but isn't that what capitalism is all about? However you seem somewhat liberal which would mean you support ur guy's trickle up economics? Please correct me if im wrong

I was talking more about the schools. Sadly numbers show high minoirty, highly populated cities have the worst education numbers so the money probably wont ever be there. The city of detroit is looking to have to close almost 50% of their public schools because the state and fed dont want to invest in somthing that will, more than likely fail. Detroit has about a 22% graduation rate. See what im saying? I hope that made sense.

detroit is a stinking mess, and it doesn't help that flint is right next door.

canada somehow did this right - vancouver's population is somewhere around 45% chinese, 10% indian, 42% white, 3% other, and their education system is top notch. somehow, i forsee that we'll get into a race argument here though, so i'm out before it gets bad.

 

[kjkriston]

would you rather do this by capita? we're still in the top ten, and that's without a good education program.

1 Vermont….. 3,600.16
2 Hawaii….. 3,477.93
3 Wyoming….. 3,417.77
4 Connecticut….. 3,300.49
5 Minnesota….. 3,093.93
6 Delaware….. 3,068.98
7 Massachusetts….. 2,818.39
8 Alaska….. 2,798.66
9 New Jersey….. 2,781.33
10 California….. 2,724.31

i found you at the number 26th spot

26 North Carolina….. 2,146.68


i'm not trying to be an ass here, i find it remarkable that you're number 26, and california is number 26 in education - that's the disparity that i'm pointing out.

Considering I am from Boston its a null point. Live here by default. Besides...do you consider Raliegh in the same categorie as Los Angeles? BTW Massachusetts has one of the best Public Education programs int he whole country.

 

[Irish Cannon]

I love me some Boston.

 

[kjkriston]

detroit is a stinking mess, and it doesn't help that flint is right next door.

canada somehow did this right - vancouver's population is somewhere around 45% chinese, 10% indian, 42% white, 3% other, and their education system is top notch. somehow, i forsee that we'll get into a race argument here though, so i'm out before it gets bad.

I am not arguing race at all. Canada is its own sinking ship.....great place to live....until someone attacks them....Just sayin!

 

[kjkriston]

Still cant give you reps IC!

 

[suncloud]

Considering I am from Boston its a null point. Live here by default. Besides...do you consider Raliegh in the same categorie as Los Angeles? BTW Massachusetts has one of the best Public Education programs int he whole country.

yes it does. why doesn't california is the question?

do i consider raleigh in the same category as LA? yes - that's why i did the above a second time as per capita vs gross domestic, as you requested, to level the playing field.

 

[suncloud]

I am not arguing race at all. Canada is its own sinking ship.....great place to live....until someone attacks them....Just sayin!

that's what the RCMP is for..... you can find adds for their navy under the phone books - its hidden under "antiques"....

that was just mean. but funny.

 

[kjkriston]

yes it does. why doesn't california is the question?

do i consider raleigh in the same category as LA? yes - that's why i did the above a second time as per capita vs gross domestic, as you requested, to level the playing field.

I think california's education problem is funding thats diverted from education and spent on needless other thigns...like making smoking in public illegal....and i dont even smoke! Puls the immigration issue there is not helping anyone....Hope Obama's push will help....if hes done anything right so far its his focus on the drug and border crisis.

 

[kjkriston]

:You_Rock_Emoticon:
AWESOME!

that's what the RCMP is for..... you can find adds for their navy under the phone books - its hidden under "antiques"....

that was just mean. but funny.

 

[Irish Cannon]

I am not arguing race at all. Canada is its own sinking ship.....great place to live....until someone attacks them....Just sayin!

I want to visit some parts of Canada, but other than that, I wouldn't miss it if it was destroyed.

It's one of those countries where you just wonder what their purpose is. It's like the guy that sits in a classroom and doesn't really have any enemies yet doesn't contribute to anything. You wouldn't miss him if he left, yet don't really care if he stays.

 

[Distilled Water]

detroit is a stinking mess, and it doesn't help that flint is right next door.

canada somehow did this right - vancouver's population is somewhere around 45% chinese, 10% indian, 42% white, 3% other, and their education system is top notch. somehow, i forsee that we'll get into a race argument here though, so i'm out before it gets bad.

Calling detroit a stinking mess really doesnt do the situation there any justice, it's so much worse then people who dont live there can imagine. Also is flint even stil a city?lol

Thats canada.

You can't argue the numbers, highly populated minority cities do not excell in school....period, sorry.

 

[suncloud]

I think california's education problem is funding thats diverted from education and spent on needless other thigns...like making smoking in public illegal....and i dont even smoke! Puls the immigration issue there is not helping anyone....Hope Obama's push will help....if hes done anything right so far its his focus on the drug and border crisis.

hrm. i may be boxed into a corner here. i don't understand how the immigration problem blew into the mess that its in now. i'll end up starting a fight if i word this the wrong way, so i'll just shut up now.

 

[suncloud]

Calling detroit a stinking mess really doesnt do the situation there any justice, it's so much worse then people who dont live there can imagine. Also is flint even stil a city?lol

You can't argue the numbers, highly populated minority cities do not excell in school....period, sorry.

i have a friend 10 minutes from flint. he says its been in the top 5 cities for murder since the 70's. i'm pretty sure that when the guys from flint go mobile into detroit, everything falls apart. i think the government left detroit and flint alone because they left it alone for so long, they don't know where to start in rebuilding it, shy of razing it to the ground.

 

[kjkriston]

SO we all agree....we all have different views but we all agree! YAY! peace for all......I feel dumb now!

 

[Irish Cannon]

Boy to Father: "Dad, was Detroit really a city?"

Father to boy: "Nobody knows, son. Nobody knows..."

:lol: - I took that from Family Guy when Chris asked Peter about "The lost city of New Orleans."

 

[kjkriston]

Anyhoo, it was fun and I am out! Have a good night guys!

 

[Distilled Water]

yea we all kept this pretty civil......yea us!!!

There you're not feeling dumb alone

 

[kjkriston]

BTW my Avi is Awesome!

 

[Distilled Water]

Boy to Father: "Dad, was Detroit really a city?"

Father to boy: "Nobody knows, son. Nobody knows..."

:lol: - I took that from Family Guy when Chris asked Peter about "The lost city of New Orleans."

I almost pee'd my pants right there.

 

[EasyEJL]

would you rather do this by capita? we're still in the top ten, and that's without a good education program.

1 Vermont….. 3,600.16
2 Hawaii….. 3,477.93
3 Wyoming….. 3,417.77
4 Connecticut….. 3,300.49
5 Minnesota….. 3,093.93
6 Delaware….. 3,068.98
7 Massachusetts….. 2,818.39
8 Alaska….. 2,798.66
9 New Jersey….. 2,781.33
10 California….. 2,724.31

i found you at the number 26th spot

26 North Carolina….. 2,146.68

i'm not trying to be an ass here, i find it remarkable that you're number 26, and california is number 26 in education - that's the disparity that i'm pointing out.

GDP per capita is irrelevant in terms of comparing states, as it is primarily based on property prices, which in most states is the majority of cost of living costs. the reason GDP has to be so high in those states is that there is no other way to afford living there. Whether its direct property in most of those cases, or partially extended other cost of living costs as is the case in alaska and hawaii. Does higher value per square acre mean a better state to live in? No. Saying california supports the most also leaves out what portion of federal funds california gets. When the US government has operated at a deficit for 144 of the last 145 years, saying you were the biggest contributor (as well as the biggest beneficiary) isn't quite meaningful.

 

[suncloud]

Saying california supports the most also leaves out what portion of federal funds california gets.

91 percent of all farmers and ranchers do not collect government subsidy payments in California, according to USDA (fruits don't count for subsidies).

California is the top agricultural producing state and as well as the largest food processing employer in the United States, shipping $50 billion worth in food products

Fresno County leads the rest of the state and the nation in food production, and Fresno County alone shipped $770 million of preserved fruits and vegetables

that's not federal aid, that's subsidies on a yearly basis, regardless of disaster. you're in florida easy, your farmers are in the same boat. almost none of them get aid, because almost none of them are growing corn. and floridas public education is as wrecked as californias is.

 

[Dagron]

Both parties are the problem. The Democrats propose quickly over spending and over taxing and the republicans of late propose increasing spending and freezing taxes. Neither party truly supports contitutional values because they are both still ultimately in the business of government. Why would either side propose to carve government down to size when it derails the gravy train?