Yes we CAN! Change we can believe in..

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  1. Yes we CAN! Change we can believe in..


    Or not..

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuyIQhIw4zg"]YouTube - Obama defends Bushs wire-taps[/ame]


  2. Here is something amusing on the heels of the title of this post. I had a writing test in a college composition class recently. We had 2 topics to choose from. I choose and entertainment personality who is a good or bad role model. Well, someone wrote their own outline on my instructions and it was about how great Obama was. I used it for me own but to saw he isn't what people think he is. Yeah, he isn't an entertainment personality but I couldn't help myself.

    my points were that is is for bigger government, thinking bigger is better. This starts with nationalizing business when it should be the locals government that should help at the local level

    another point was his poor choices. ie, his appointees to offices have turned out to have questionable personal issues many with the law. Plus the fact that many of these guys are not new to politics. THey were there during the Clinton years so his stance and doing things new is hogwash.

    I ended by saying that any minority in America should be inspirred by Barak because of being able to attain the highest office in the world but they should also keep in mind that he is of questionable character and it remains to be seen what Path America is headed.

    Just wanted to share.............
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  3. The guy has been in office 79 days, what did people expect at this point?


  4. Maybe not to outspend a 2 term President in 79 days?

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  5. He made all these national security promises during his campaign because he had no ****ing clue what goes on. Now that he is in the know a lot more is making sense to him. Iraq withdrawal, Afganistan troops, wire taps, Guantanamo, missile shield etc etc
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  6. I am seceding from the Union, effective immediately.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Cosmo Kramer View Post
    Maybe not to outspend a 2 term President in 79 days?

    LOL x2!!!!

    sad but true

  8. its the fcking president...days in office should not reflect his "responsibility"! homeboy fcking up right and left! but i admit there is some good in him, he gave the queen an ipod!!!

  9. And he bowed to the Saudi King a couple days ago lol

  10. What he has done so far, so fast is frightening. I hate to think of what's to come. I feel we have been duped by the allure of finally breaking the color barrier in the white house.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by jarhead View Post
    What he has done so far, so fast is frightening. I hate to think of what's to come. I feel we have been duped by the allure of finally breaking the color barrier in the white house.
    I think it's funny that he has more street cred than any other person that ran, yet he is the least oppressed. Grew up in Hawaii, raised by two white grandparents, went to an ivy league school...

    McCain - POW
    Clinton - Oppressed by her own husband
    Huckabee - Grew up in poverty

    I could keep going...

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Rugger View Post
    He made all these national security promises during his campaign because he had no ****ing clue what goes on. Now that he is in the know a lot more is making sense to him. Iraq withdrawal, Afganistan troops, wire taps, Guantanamo, missile shield etc etc
    No, he knew the people would respond well to those notions. Many Americans want to restore the constitution and keep the Republic free.

    He knows there is no need for our troops to be in Afghanistan, except to protect the projected Natural Gas Pipeline that Haliburton is going to build. Plus all the Heroin too. The Taliban are not a problem.

    The Iraq Withdraw, this is just another Bait and Switch. The United States does not need to be here at all. No legitimate reason. Stability in the region is not our problem. Today Iraqis were protesting their occupation on the anniversary of the fall of Baghdad. US soldiers do not need to die to serve as mercenaries of the Elite. Spreading democracy my ass.

    Wire taps, internet spying, FISA bill, PATRIOT Act Military Commissions Act, all fly in the face of our Constitution. None of these even remotely protect the American public, they only make it easier to persecute US and treat good Americans like so-called terrorists.

    Guantanamo? This was bull**** from the beginning. Plus all the other secret prisons the US has around the world. It's pretty easy to take whoever the blankly label a "terrorist" and deny them every right to a fair trial. Even a US citizen.

    Missile Shield? For what? We can't even build good interceptor missiles we had to attach radio receivers on our last "test" in the Pacific. Missile shield in Poland to protect what? and from who? Iran? LMAO. They can't even get spare parts for jet airliners and now people believe they will build missiles to strike Europe and Poland? Why would they even want to attack Europe? That would be horribly stupid on their part, they would end up a smoking crater the next day. This shield won't protect us from Russian missiles either, they have FAR superior ICBM's that can not be shot down-according to them.
    Missile shield is just more money for Defense Contractors. Total BS.


    He was also going to get us out of NAFTA. he didn't.

    Obama is another puppet president and until the American People learn this, things will never change.

    Exactly when do you think they will restore our constitution?

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    I think it's funny that he has more street cred than any other person that ran, yet he is the least oppressed. Grew up in Hawaii, raised by two white grandparents, went to an ivy league school...

    McCain - POW
    Clinton - Oppressed by her own husband
    Huckabee - Grew up in poverty

    I could keep going...
    Obama-CFR member
    McCain-CFR member
    Clinton-CFR Member
    Huckabee- CFR Member
    Guiliani-CFR Member
    Edwards-CFR Member
    Romney-CFR Member

    Ron Paul- NOT A MEMBER of any think tank set up by the Rockefeller's.

    Please look up Council on Foreign Relations and who set it up. Before you start thinking that we actually voted for TWO very different candidates.

  14. It's estimated that he has about 150 days before his aurora of popularity and celebrity wears off. So damn right he's moving fast to pass a lot of crap.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Harry Manback View Post
    I am seceding from the Union, effective immediately.
    20 states are currently declaring sovereignty right now. The federal government is over stepping it's bounds.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by nopeace View Post
    Obama-CFR member
    McCain-CFR member
    Clinton-CFR Member
    Huckabee- CFR Member
    Guiliani-CFR Member
    Edwards-CFR Member
    Romney-CFR Member

    Ron Paul- NOT A MEMBER of any think tank set up by the Rockefeller's.

    Please look up Council on Foreign Relations and who set it up. Before you start thinking that we actually voted for TWO very different candidates.
    What on earth are you getting at? I never said they were different, I said Obama had more street cred than any other.

    How is that even related?

    The minorities act as though Obama is one of them, and my post simply proved he isn't anything close. He's never lived their lifestyle.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by nopeace View Post
    Obama-CFR member
    McCain-CFR member
    Clinton-CFR Member
    Huckabee- CFR Member
    Guiliani-CFR Member
    Edwards-CFR Member
    Romney-CFR Member

    Ron Paul- NOT A MEMBER of any think tank set up by the Rockefeller's.

    Please look up Council on Foreign Relations and who set it up. Before you start thinking that we actually voted for TWO very different candidates.

    imo the first barrier that we have to get past if we are to survive as a country is the "my side vs their side".The game is fixed, there are no sides, the ideaological differences used to separate us are only done to weaken us as a people (a house divided cannot stand). We, the people, are all on the same side, and the truth of the matter is that the political and business elites are on an entirely different team altogether.

    Obama is one of them, as is Mccain, as was Bush, as was Clinton, etc. Like you said, Ron Paul wasn't, and as a result everyone walked around talking about how crazy he was, even though 8 out of 10 people wouldn't be able to pick him out of a police lineup.

    Its not dems vs republicans, Christians vs Atheist, gays vs straights. It is US vs Them, and they are winning.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Dadof2 View Post
    imo the first barrier that we have to get past if we are to survive as a country is the "my side vs their side".The game is fixed, there are no sides, the ideaological differences used to separate us are only done to weaken us as a people (a house divided cannot stand). We, the people, are all on the same side, and the truth of the matter is that the political and business elites are on an entirely different team altogether.

    Obama is one of them, as is Mccain, as was Bush, as was Clinton, etc. Like you said, Ron Paul wasn't, and as a result everyone walked around talking about how crazy he was, even though 8 out of 10 people wouldn't be able to pick him out of a police lineup.

    Its not dems vs republicans, Christians vs Atheist, gays vs straights. It is US vs Them, and they are winning.
    BINGO.


    We are not electing anyone. We are just picking from two pre-determined choices. That is why none deviate from the path and actually change anything in favor of the American people.

    Throughout all of this Economic down turn NO ONE says to abolish the FED. A non-federal bank set up by private interest that are robbing our cash daily.

  19. American's are wasting their times going Democrat or Republican. Both sides work for the same interest and getting campaign contributions from the same people.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by nopeace View Post
    20 states are currently declaring sovereignty right now. The federal government is over stepping it's bounds.
    go on...

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Harry Manback View Post
    go on...
    I believe he is talking about this:
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=88218

    For something so big it is getting predictably little mainstream coverage. How is THIS not news, but I learned that lindsey****inglohan split from her dyke girlfriend by watching the news?!?!?! No wonder there is such a big push to control the internet.

  22. thats why i wanted to vote for colbert but the mfer resigned because he was just doing it as a joke even though he was getting alot of support. Until we destroy the things that are killing the economy imo WAL MART and other companies that outsource jobs to china. until we do this we will continually get screwed and soon our dollar will be worth less than the damn loonie.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    I think it's funny that he has more street cred than any other person that ran, yet he is the least oppressed. Grew up in Hawaii, raised by two white grandparents, went to an ivy league school...

    McCain - POW
    Clinton - Oppressed by her own husband
    Huckabee - Grew up in poverty

    I could keep going...
    why, oh why didn't the republican party go with huckabee? i've been following huckabee before he won the straw poll, and he's by far the smartest candidate that the republicans had. bleh. i can't condone palin and her "make people pay for their own rape kit", which IMO is why mccain lost.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by jarhead View Post
    What he has done so far, so fast is frightening. I hate to think of what's to come. I feel we have been duped by the allure of finally breaking the color barrier in the white house.
    You are absolutely correct.

    Guys, watch a video on google video or youtube called 'The Obama Deception'

    Obama supporters.. you've been PUNK'D

    P.S McCain would have been the sameee thing.. presidents don't control crap, they are frontmen, puppets of the NWO (which they have now announced at the G-20 summit as the way to SAVE US.. LOL!) unreal..

  25. Quote Originally Posted by nopeace View Post
    Obama-CFR member
    McCain-CFR member
    Clinton-CFR Member
    Huckabee- CFR Member
    Guiliani-CFR Member
    Edwards-CFR Member
    Romney-CFR Member

    Ron Paul- NOT A MEMBER of any think tank set up by the Rockefeller's.

    Please look up Council on Foreign Relations and who set it up. Before you start thinking that we actually voted for TWO very different candidates.
    CFR is very evil.. and their main goal.. human depopulation...

    We're screwed.

  26. nopeace is a smart man..

    Alex Jones fan?

  27. Quote Originally Posted by suncloud View Post
    why, oh why didn't the republican party go with huckabee? i've been following huckabee before he won the straw poll, and he's by far the smartest candidate that the republicans had. bleh. i can't condone palin and her "make people pay for their own rape kit", which IMO is why mccain lost.
    right on man. Huckabee is not only is he funny but hes a brilliant plolitician. Mccain lost because of Palins stupidiy. Period.

  28. wow wow.... you boys have lots and lots of learning to do. i mean i see a few of you are in the know, but man "what does the CFR have anything to do with it"... it has everything to do with it. i post here a lot but never in this section, i will start to tho. as i have plenty to share, and plenty of truth to replace the lies you've been spoonfed from day 1.

    - obama deception is a great documentary and is good for all of you mindless obama freaks who have no ****ing clue what this guy is about other than a moronic 6 letter slogan which is exactly opposite of the truth. in 100 days, hes changed NOTHING and solidified everything done in during the bush reign.

    but, that film is simply the icing on the cake. not even. its the cherry on top of the icing which is on top of the cake.

    go to googlevideo.com and learn some *****ng truth for once in your lives.
    - endgame
    - america: freedom to fascism
    - terror storm 1 + 2
    - hijacking humanity
    - the money masters
    - zeitgeist 1+2 (mainstream but watch em)
    i could go on and on, but this is a start to get you learning.

    and o yea... quit watching mainstream news outlets. they're a waste of your time and money, especially written publications produced by these same major entertainment syndicates, as they permeate the same bull**** ideas throughout them all.
    for real news, real current events, and what actually happened as opposed to what they told you happened on 'x' day when 'y' and 'z' happened, tune into alex jones, and read up on whats happening as it happens on infowars.com

    hopefully not all of you will be so ignorant to laugh at this. but hey... you'll be terribly sorry for not listening when the **** hits the fan soon enough.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by SeanyK View Post
    wow wow.... you boys have lots and lots of learning to do. i mean i see a few of you are in the know, but man "what does the CFR have anything to do with it"... it has everything to do with it. i post here a lot but never in this section, i will start to tho. as i have plenty to share, and plenty of truth to replace the lies you've been spoonfed from day 1.

    - obama deception is a great documentary and is good for all of you mindless obama freaks who have no ****ing clue what this guy is about other than a moronic 6 letter slogan which is exactly opposite of the truth. in 100 days, hes changed NOTHING and solidified everything done in during the bush reign.

    but, that film is simply the icing on the cake. not even. its the cherry on top of the icing which is on top of the cake.

    go to googlevideo.com and learn some *****ng truth for once in your lives.
    - endgame
    - america: freedom to fascism
    - terror storm 1 + 2
    - hijacking humanity
    - the money masters
    - zeitgeist 1+2 (mainstream but watch em)
    i could go on and on, but this is a start to get you learning.

    and o yea... quit watching mainstream news outlets. they're a waste of your time and money, especially written publications produced by these same major entertainment syndicates, as they permeate the same bull**** ideas throughout them all.
    for real news, real current events, and what actually happened as opposed to what they told you happened on 'x' day when 'y' and 'z' happened, tune into alex jones, and read up on whats happening as it happens on infowars.com

    hopefully not all of you will be so ignorant to laugh at this. but hey... you'll be terribly sorry for not listening when the **** hits the fan soon enough.
    I love you

  30. Im still kinda laughing at all the people who believed what Obama, much less any politician said. Like somehow, he is different than the rest.
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