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  1. lutherblsstt
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    Now, some Americans seem more afraid of the president than of the combined Al Qaeda, North Korea, Russians, Iran and Muslim world.What is next ? An article about the soap Obama uses to shower with and link that to some criminal organization or communists, followed by "I told you so" ?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by lutherblsstt View Post
    Now, some Americans seem more afraid of the president than of the combined Al Qaeda, North Korea, Russians, Iran and Muslim world.What is next ? An article about the soap Obama uses to shower with and link that to some criminal organization or communists, followed by "I told you so" ?
    We're not scared of Obama.. he is simply a new world order frontman.. a frontman for the "global elite".. the people who really run the world.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Ubiyca View Post
    CFR is very evil.. and their main goal.. human depopulation...

    We're screwed.
    I agree, it's not looking good

    -HB-

  4. Entropy is increasing. As energy is randomized throughout the universe into a single state, chaos occurs at a ever increasing rate.

    The new world order is the future. Change is in the making. Enough data has now been accumulated to predict our future. A rate of change can be calculated by looking through the past and viewing mans creations. Creativity is perhaps the rate at which we are learning about our selves, and at the same time, re-creating the environment to our own desires. We are the creator-species. Entropy is increasing as we all learn. As entropy increases, mass decayes faster and faster into a singular state of randomized energy. The environment is our egg, and we are to feed off of it.

    If we look back at mans history, we will notice it has only been within the past 200 years that his greatest creations have manifested into existence. Creativity, has its frontiers rooted in technology. Technology is in the hands of our governments. We can see that creativity has a inverse relationship with entropy, by pointing out how the environmental has also changed the most within the past 200 years. From theories, to the shape of the earth, our environment has been altered most within the past 200 years. And will continue to do so at a faster and faster rate. But this is only because we are all learning as a whole. We are all realizing we are absolute and a infinite species who is experiencing itself in separate unaware forms. We are that experience, be proud of who you are.

    Since entropy, and creativity, are expressions of our absolute abilities and the mind as a whole, connected, internet like network we are only now forging into existence, we must understand they are only results of a greater law that is taking place within everywhere and all things. We are infinite. Don't lie to yourself anymore. But even if you do, its ok, because that's who you are and that's the role you play. But for the aspirant who's intuition from these words leads them to believe otherwise, let the aspirant understand that existence does provide evidences of infinity and, just as Bolzano show us 150 years ago, just one infinite aspect of existence is evidence that the whole is infinite.

    Technology, or rather, creativity will only continue to increase. This is the process of all things. Expression. The future is a enclave like civilization. Within the next 200 years this will be the way of life, and everyone who lives outside the enclaves will die. You must think infinitely, and remove your finite thoughts paradigms you have been conditioned to think through if you want to exist in the future. You are infinite, do not fear death.

    Organized by large syndicates of large multi-billion dollar corporations, enclaves will begin to be constructed by 2020 and on. These enclaves will operate under complete different laws, and super tight security systems that only rich share-holders who are apart of the new world order can afford or the wealthy lucky few who have managed to afford such a piece of property. The drive to initiate the enclave craze, will be initiated by staged events of excess radiation and biotoxins throughout the earth as well as the upcoming ice-age that will reveal itself within the next 200 years. A share alone, before a enclave is even constructed, we are talking pre-sale here, is estimated $5-10 million. So start saving your pennys. These enclaves will be burrowed deep within mountain sides, offer protection from any attack, or event that could take place outside the enclaves. Conditions inside the enclaves begin to improve, while the outside deteriorates. Enclaves become more powerful than the govts, and power is switched over as the outside conditions fail into a unihabitibal, unexplored mini-ice age, and new single world network is created as a result of mans newer understandings at that point in time.

    It happens because, inside the vaults, technology progresses with the rate of mans creativity still, at a faster, exponentially increasing rate. The whole process leads to expression of the nano-molecular assembler. It will first be created to synthesize food from common materials such as sand and rock in order for man to survive. This invention will change man from this point on, because assemblers will eventually be perfected to synthesize anything, making the idea of the market pointless, and finally man is over that hump. At this point the enclaves become more powerful than the almost non-existant govt that is still semi-functioning in the horrible outside conditions. Technology then once again, changes the environment, and the enclaves takes out govt control. However, since govt is the expression of cohesion, ignorance will still be ideal in the outside conditions, and instead of accepting the ways of the enclaves, the govts will fight against it, but technology will prevail. And that's the next 200-400 years or so, planned out for you, very simply. You can now see where you are going, and now you understand where these (todays) conditions will lead to.

    Don't believe me? Wait until the first enclave is constructed, then you will remember this post. As all things are ultimately progressed infinitely, the idea of isolational neighborhoods has grown more and more complex as well within the past 200 years. Man has built tighter, and tighter colonies. You can of course today find neighborhoods now that are surrounded by a stone wall and a guard at the gate. But this is nothing compared to a enclave. It is the same idea however, only progressed through time a few years, after a few staged events.

    Mans awareness of his true self ultimately destroys the environment around him, he creates his own obstacles, until the point he realizes he is the creator-species(This is the learning process, you cannot know light without dark. Which brings up another point, where there is no light, there are no eyes. Nothing happens for nothing. Be proud of who you are as a infinite spiritual absolute being.). At which point, technology (creativity) will cross paths with entropy (randomization). At this point, to sum it up very quickly, technology will have evolved to such a point that the molecular assembler is invented and modified to the point and mass can be created instantly, at the same rate of thought of the mind. And the mind, thanks to technology, will be nothing like it is today. Nano technology will allow man to develop a super thought mark-2 human thought capabilities with the rest of his brain. At which point the universe is then, re-created, by the will of the creator-species, but at this point people, being fully aware of their absolute nature.
  5. lutherblsstt
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    Quote Originally Posted by jarhead View Post
    What he has done so far, so fast is frightening. I hate to think of what's to come. I feel we have been duped by the allure of finally breaking the color barrier in the white house.
    Obama is trying to close Guantanamo, Congress is blocking that. There are real questions as to what the right way to deal with those still in Gitmo though and it is absurd to pretend it is a simple issue. What is clear is that what Bush did was wrong. That still leaves a lot of questions about what is right. Bush's policies of reviewing prisoners status was wrong but that doesn't mean you throw them into normal courts. The standards of evidence for POWs have always been different (did every German locked up in POW camps in the South get a trial with a jury of 12 good-ole-boys?)

    In his first week Obama put an end to the use of waterboarding and other methods of torture by US service personnel (including those in intelligence agencies.)
    (to this you screech but there is still the possibility that some of it goes on after rendition; no sweet poopie. The first steps have already been taken and show a clear intent to change this sort of bs.)

    Obama has also repealed Bush instituted restrictions on aid to international family planning groups who discuss contraception or abortion. He also lifted the ban on federal funding for stem cell research.

    You can also look at some of the Obama appointees and see that he is indeed earnest in regards to wanting scientific integrity (Chu, Lubchenko).

    He's worked to ease restrictions on relations with Cuba. He's worked to actually try and employ bipartisan efforts (e.g. Gregg), he sought Republican support on numerous issues (they're in the minority though so their job is to just scream irrationally, apparently, as opposed to actually trying to improve things domestically and abroad.)

    He has continued the late-term Bush policy of seeking one-on-one discussion with Iran, despite screeching from republicans.

    He's gone through with promises about fair pay and a variety of other issues. He's moved to drastically refocus on Afghanistan versus the ill-begotten Iraq war.

    Obama has not, and will not, do all that he said or even all that he wants. He certainly is not going to do all that you want. He's going to mess up and he's going to do things everyone disagrees with. To pretend he hasn't done anything he said is simply dishonest.

    The reason is simply: most of these are not simple issues and there are not going to be simple answers.

    You can't wave a wand and make Gitmo disappear (Bush did that to create it and in that and many other ways superseded his actual level of authority). Further, it doesn't matter where Gitmo prisoners are held whether on an island off the shore of Florida or in Iowa; what matters is how they're treated and that's already changing.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by TexasTitan View Post
    Im still kinda laughing at all the people who believed what Obama, much less any politician said. Like somehow, he is different than the rest.
    Me too. No one - not one elected official actually gives a damn what the people think. After all - they all know whats best for us.

    Things are getting worse every day, and most of what is being done will never be undone. Its very sad.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by lutherblsstt View Post
    Obama is trying to close Guantanamo, Congress is blocking that. There are real questions as to what the right way to deal with those still in Gitmo though and it is absurd to pretend it is a simple issue. What is clear is that what Bush did was wrong. That still leaves a lot of questions about what is right. Bush's policies of reviewing prisoners status was wrong but that doesn't mean you throw them into normal courts. The standards of evidence for POWs have always been different (did every German locked up in POW camps in the South get a trial with a jury of 12 good-ole-boys?)

    In his first week Obama put an end to the use of waterboarding and other methods of torture by US service personnel (including those in intelligence agencies.)
    (to this you screech but there is still the possibility that some of it goes on after rendition; no sweet poopie. The first steps have already been taken and show a clear intent to change this sort of bs.)

    Obama has also repealed Bush instituted restrictions on aid to international family planning groups who discuss contraception or abortion. He also lifted the ban on federal funding for stem cell research.

    You can also look at some of the Obama appointees and see that he is indeed earnest in regards to wanting scientific integrity (Chu, Lubchenko).

    He's worked to ease restrictions on relations with Cuba. He's worked to actually try and employ bipartisan efforts (e.g. Gregg), he sought Republican support on numerous issues (they're in the minority though so their job is to just scream irrationally, apparently, as opposed to actually trying to improve things domestically and abroad.)

    He has continued the late-term Bush policy of seeking one-on-one discussion with Iran, despite screeching from republicans.

    He's gone through with promises about fair pay and a variety of other issues. He's moved to drastically refocus on Afghanistan versus the ill-begotten Iraq war.

    Obama has not, and will not, do all that he said or even all that he wants. He certainly is not going to do all that you want. He's going to mess up and he's going to do things everyone disagrees with. To pretend he hasn't done anything he said is simply dishonest.

    The reason is simply: most of these are not simple issues and there are not going to be simple answers.

    You can't wave a wand and make Gitmo disappear (Bush did that to create it and in that and many other ways superseded his actual level of authority). Further, it doesn't matter where Gitmo prisoners are held whether on an island off the shore of Florida or in Iowa; what matters is how they're treated and that's already changing.
    Unfortunately, not all of obama's "change" is anything different than something bush would do....YouTube - Rachel Maddow: Indefinite detention? Shame on you... President Obama

  8. These are alarming times. Bushed paved the way for Obama by initiating the bailouts. The cow is out of the barn and now our national debt is going to quadruple. Obama rode a wave of support prophesizing "change" and the majority of people seem to still be eating right out of his hands as he continues to undermine the free market and destroy the credibility of our economic system.

    Think of GM and Chrysler. Both going through a Federally controlled bankruptcy. The Federal government takes majority stake in both companies and screws the bondholders over all while giving the United Auto Workers the next biggest stake.

    I see the Fed mandating how GM and Chrysler restructure, and making them follow a business plan that is "green" or "good" for the people.

    Ford, in all its glory, will have the freedom and advantage of making what the people want, as opposed to what the government wants the people to have (via GM and Chrysler) and will have a big advantage. Ford, following the free market, will outcompete the Federal owned GM and Chrysler. The Fed will respond by enacting unjust policies detrimental to Ford and advantageous to GM and Chrysler.

    We are witnessing the decline of economic freedom in the name of what's "good" for the country. Our free markets and civil liberties are at stake while the Federal government becomes bigger, spendier, and overreaching in its authority.

  9. Ah what a good civil war wouldnt do for this country finally get some house cleaning done.

    How did it get this bad

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Zero V View Post
    Ah what a good civil war wouldnt do for this country finally get some house cleaning done.

    How did it get this bad
    Liberals of course

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Alto View Post
    Liberals of course
    Yeah that horrible "liberal" george bush who was in office for 8 years.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by hillbilly_210 View Post
    I agree, it's not looking good

    -HB-
    HB, I think you just earned the official "understatement of the century" award, lol. You have no idea bro, politics have nothing to do with any of this and they never did.

    'For our struggle is not against human opponents, but against the rulers, authorities and cosmic powers of darkness that surround us, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly realms.' - Ephesians 6:12

    YouTube - Obama - Yes We Can = Thank You Satan

  13. Quote Originally Posted by DR.D View Post
    HB, I think you just earned the official "understatement of the century" award, lol. You have no idea bro, politics have nothing to do with any of this and they never did.

    Thanks for the award.

    -HB-
  14. lutherblsstt
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    Quote Originally Posted by DR.D View Post
    HB, I think you just earned the official "understatement of the century" award, lol. You have no idea bro, politics have nothing to do with any of this and they never did.

    'For our struggle is not against human opponents, but against the rulers, authorities and cosmic powers of darkness that surround us, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly realms.' - Ephesians 6:12

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqALdkTArqs
    YouTube - Eisenhower warns us of the military industrial complex.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by TexasTitan View Post
    Im still kinda laughing at all the people who believed what Obama, much less any politician said. Like somehow, he is different than the rest.
    It's hard to laugh when that's the general populus of America..

  16. Quote Originally Posted by hillbilly_210 View Post
    Thanks for the award.

    -HB-
    Now I have to wait a whole other century before I can try again! And everyone always said I would win this one, lol.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Zero V View Post
    ... How did it get this bad
    How? Don't you know the whole planet is under satan's rule, literally? The real question (and the mind blowing part to me) is why did it take this long to get this bad!

    This is gonna go down just the way it was foretold, and you should already know what to expect next preacher man.

  18. Wow im glad i found this thread, many insightfull and wise persons present. I have been making controversial threads and quoting ron paul and alex jones for awhile and all i got was mad ppl telling me i wear a "tinfoil hat." As if my attempts at "waking them up" was unwanted in the midst of a horrible nightmare but a familiar, popular safe one nonetheless.

    Do you all remember that scene from any movie where there was a temple or pyramid and the ones in power would cut out the hearts of a random person or virgin, behead this person or have then jump into a firy pit?.......

    They told the people it was a sacrifice to keep the gods happy, make it rain or bless the crops.......

    Do you know what it really was????

    A lesson in FEAR. The ones in power knew that for those several hundred or so to stay in power they had to keep the thousands below soo scared that they would never get a clue, unite and do what was right.... cut the head off the snake( kill the oppressors).

    Everyday we turn on our t.v, radio or read a newspaper we get that same dose of fear desinged to keep us sedated while otherwise we might be on to this HORRIFIC injustice to man, liberty, god and peace.

    We live as the puppets, mechanism and engine to power a machine deisnged to enslave and evetually kill us.

    I do not wear a tinfoil hat. I do however have the sense to know when "something is not right..." and do dig deeper and deeper until i find TRUTH.

    Truth exists in politics, religion and humankind but it lays buried beneath the bodies of our dead the greed of our leaders and the cowardice of our heros.

    Seek and you shall find.

    Do not become a wandering blind tool of mayhem and evil through stubborn ignorance.

    YouTube - V for Vendetta Speech

  19. Ron Pauls words on our current world situation.

    Current conditions or just a bad dream??



    YouTube - Ron Paul: Current Conditions or Just a Bad Dream 05/19/2009

  20. Quote Originally Posted by somewhatgifted View Post
    Wow im glad i found this thread, many insightfull and wise persons present. I have been making controversial threads and quoting ron paul and alex jones for awhile and all i got was mad ppl telling me i wear a "tinfoil hat." As if my attempts at "waking them up" was unwanted in the midst of a horrible nightmare but a familiar, popular safe one nonetheless.

    Do you all remember that scene from any movie where there was a temple or pyramid and the ones in power would cut out the hearts of a random person or virgin, behead this person or have then jump into a firy pit?.......

    They told the people it was a sacrifice to keep the gods happy, make it rain or bless the crops.......

    Do you know what it really was????

    A lesson in FEAR. The ones in power knew that for those several hundred or so to stay in power they had to keep the thousands below soo scared that they would never get a clue, unite and do what was right.... cut the head off the snake( kill the oppressors).

    Everyday we turn on our t.v, radio or read a newspaper we get that same dose of fear desinged to keep us sedated while otherwise we might be on to this HORRIFIC injustice to man, liberty, god and peace.

    We live as the puppets, mechanism and engine to power a machine deisnged to enslave and evetually kill us.

    I do not wear a tinfoil hat. I do however have the sense to know when "something is not right..." and do dig deeper and deeper until i find TRUTH.

    Truth exists in politics, religion and humankind but it lays buried beneath the bodies of our dead the greed of our leaders and the cowardice of our heros.

    Seek and you shall find.

    Do not become a wandering blind tool of mayhem and evil through stubborn ignorance.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chqi8m4CEEY
    I don't know what you're going on about but I blame the hippy liberals

  21. Quote Originally Posted by DR.D View Post
    Now I have to wait a whole other century before I can try again! And everyone always said I would win this one, lol.
    LOL, better luck next time my friend.

    -HB-

  22. Quote Originally Posted by somewhatgifted View Post
    Bro I love V for Vendetta. Also, I think more than ever it applies today. That was an underrated movie targeted at people having a lack of drive and passion to stand up for themselves. No one wants to accept responsibility and risk. No one wants to be that guy who is killed in the process of bringing in a new era.

    Everyone is so damn afraid of death they will take 200 pills a day just to live. SCREW Americas stupid pro-ignorance and pro-***** ideals. If I die in a revolutionary war, or I die speaking out against injustice or this government and I "magically" have an accident. I personally believe my life held more value than the white trash at McDonalds or the ghetto kids shooting each other over who scuffed who's shoes.

    Our forefathers shot each other over an argument in an honorable duel. They didnt fear death. Thats all it is... oh big brother will kill you, big brother will make you dissapear if you say the wrong crap. Screw that.

    Martin Luther King said the wrong crap, but the man is a hero. He had great ideals.

    JFK said the wrong crap, but he was probably one of the greatest presidents who actually cared, IMO.

    Jesus said the wrong crap....for those who believe and those who dont, the story is the same, he was killed for what he said and did.

    Better dead as a man than alive as a coward.

    Screw your TIVO, screw cable TV, screw fast food, screw your desk jobs, grow the hell up and do something about your damn country people.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Zero V View Post
    Bro I love V for Vendetta. Also, I think more than ever it applies today. That was an underrated movie targeted at people having a lack of drive and passion to stand up for themselves. No one wants to accept responsibility and risk. No one wants to be that guy who is killed in the process of bringing in a new era.

    Everyone is so damn afraid of death they will take 200 pills a day just to live. SCREW Americas stupid pro-ignorance and pro-***** ideals. If I die in a revolutionary war, or I die speaking out against injustice or this government and I "magically" have an accident. I personally believe my life held more value than the white trash at McDonalds or the ghetto kids shooting each other over who scuffed who's shoes.

    Our forefathers shot each other over an argument in an honorable duel. They didnt fear death. Thats all it is... oh big brother will kill you, big brother will make you dissapear if you say the wrong crap. Screw that.

    Martin Luther King said the wrong crap, but the man is a hero. He had great ideals.

    JFK said the wrong crap, but he was probably one of the greatest presidents who actually cared, IMO.

    Jesus said the wrong crap....for those who believe and those who dont, the story is the same, he was killed for what he said and did.

    Better dead as a man than alive as a coward.

    Screw your TIVO, screw cable TV, screw fast food, screw your desk jobs, grow the hell up and do something about your damn country people.

    It is easily my favorite movie due to its truthfull and strong message about our current sitution and where it will go if un checked or resisted.
    Maybe you and i are not so unlike, lol.

  24. As for our nation. It will remain ignorant willfully waltzing to it's NWO future. Luckily there are some who know that everything is much more complicated than it seems on the surface.

    Everyone who watches mainstream news in the United States should only do so to measure propaganda. Anyone who studied the history of the US with Iran and US with Iraq knows beyond a doubt that we will being going to war with Iran no matter what kinda of treaty they make with us. They are still continuously spreading lie after lie that are going to lead us straight into another war.

    It won't happen anytime soon, there is no support for a war with Iran but the US just needs anotherh 9/11 type of attack of a nuclear proportion to have everyone backing a full scale nuclear strike.

    At home, we will continue to lose more of our rights and freedoms piece by piece. Under the guise of national security. Soon it will be US citizens who the most patriotic who will be imprisoned and treated as terrorists. Our money will continue to be stolen by banks and big corporation. The current health care system will not change and it will continue robbing every American into submission. Meanwhile Obama will give pointless eloquent speeches that mean nothing to the common man who has already lost everything.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by somewhatgifted View Post
    It is easily my favorite movie due to its truthfull and strong message about our current sitution and where it will go if un checked or resisted.
    Maybe you and i are not so unlike, lol.
    Probably not. Just dissuaded by past radical opinions. Half of which probably aren't the same anymore. Then again, I dont remember ever having an issue though

  26. Quote Originally Posted by Zero V View Post
    Probably not. Just dissuaded by past radical opinions. Half of which probably aren't the same anymore. Then again, I dont remember ever having an issue though
    Now we know why i rarely make jokes.... i guess the "lol" wasnt enough, LOL.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Cosmo Kramer View Post
    Maybe not to outspend a 2 term President in 79 days?

    Not just a two term President,But all of the President's before put together.
    I forget where I found the article but they had all the figures there for each President before him so you could do the math.
    And all you heard for 8 yrs from the left how terrible it was that Bush was spending our kids BROKE.
    Well Iam sorry my 2nd post was on this subject but I was just jumping around doing more reading and ran across this.
    Hard for me to beleive so many informed people are willing to jump off the cliff with him.
    Anyhow back to reading.
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