Al-Qaeda vows to hurt Obama's US
- 01-22-2009, 12:16 AM
- 01-22-2009, 06:31 PM
- 01-22-2009, 06:42 PM
- biggest reservoirs of oil
- inflated the US dollar because its internationally recognized as trade for a barrel of oil (UAE)
prepare to loose 20% of your savings overnight
and that doesn't even include gas going back to 4-5 bucks a gallon.
01-22-2009, 07:56 PM
01-22-2009, 08:05 PM
01-22-2009, 08:09 PM
01-22-2009, 09:02 PM
01-22-2009, 09:15 PM
to say that they're all our enemies is a blanket statement of hate - much like how the KKK views blacks. that view in fact is why the middle east doesn't like us - people like you lump terrorist and freedom fighter together as a common enemy. the middle east returns the favor by saying all americans hate them. thanks (insert sarcasm here).
female mutilators is actually an african tradition, limited to tribes, where the clitoris is removed - not a middle eastern tradition.
as far as child killers goes, i notice you don't extend that to israel, who not only killed over a hundred children this month, who also bought 14-17 year old women from russia during the collapse of communism and forced them into brothels. did i mention that we give israel over 4 billion dollars of aid every year. you can easily draw a parallel that in some form or another, given our aid, the US is promoting child molestation in israel. i would also venture a guess, that due to abortion laws in the united states, that we kill much more children than the middle east.
01-22-2009, 09:30 PM
I think it's high time America strikes fear into it existing and future enemies - if you get my drift.
Everyone knows they've got the fire power but everyone knows they ain't going to use it.
Collateral damage - it already happens. Public Opinion? Didn't stop the abortion that was the Coalition of the Willing (and I say that with no disrespect to former or current servicemen)
Al Queida makes a threat? Nuke the area. Then maybe Iran may take a step back. Russia would calm the fuck down and China would think twice.
If Israel saw Iran as an immediate threat, do you think they wouldn't?
Just my uneducated 2c worth...
01-23-2009, 12:21 AM
Im guessing anyone Pro Arab hasnt buried a love one due to these pigs. Are we forever to be at their mercy cause we wont look for an alternative to oil? We are bent over and cop it cause we feel we have no choice? And as far as mutilation....May well have its origins in Africa. Does that change that they do it? And gain Im guessing the pro Arabs dont have a mutilated sister. Anyway, I better not come back to this thread, Supporters of our enemy make me sick, you know who you are.....whos ****ing side you on....
**** Al-Queda, and ANYONE that makes excuses for them.
01-23-2009, 12:34 AM
in memory thread!
post 9 is me, for my friend who died on september 11, so don't you dare accuse me of supporting terrorists. and yes, i was also a soldier.
the problem with iraq, is the audacity and sheer arrogance of the terrorists. they dress like civilians, hide with civilians, then complain when a civilian dies. they don't have the balls do get in a uniform so we know who they are - terrorists are pussies, and always will be. i hope the 72 virgins end up like that family guy episode - 72 nerds on computers all playing warcraft.
there is a problem in condemning the whole nation though - you can't say anyone who helped us, and lived through sadaams evil regime deserve to die because of their race - unless you also believe that middle easterners can say the same of us and george bush taking away our rights that our soldiers fought for.
we can say that all terrorists deserve death. so does anyone who is willing to kill innocent civilians to achieve an end goal - be careful that you are not one of those as soon as we start targeting the innocent, we become no better.
01-23-2009, 12:51 AM
And props to you for your service to your country. Got a brother in the forces (afghanistan, 3RAR) nice work. No one knows better than boots on the ground.
01-23-2009, 01:13 AM
yes, we need to retaliate, and yes, every terrorist deserves whatever misery we can inflict on them. however, allow yourself to consider the possibility that we kill a mother and father, and permanently disfigure a 3 year old boy. when that boy grows up, he will have hate in his heart for us, and what we did to his family, and in some way, he will feel justified in retaliating against us - maybe a repeat of 9/11. this is what i would prevent.
by doing this war tactfully, we prevent others from joining the enemy because of indiscriminate killing.
kill the terrorists. kill them without passion, without mercy. they want to meet allah, lets get them to him faster! but do not let other enemies rise up because of a mistake on our part. that's where i'm coming from. we've lost enough innocents already. IMO.
congrats for having a brother in service. its a thankless job, that will be more thankless if the civilian body count rises too high - that kind of stress can place a toll on the spirit.
01-23-2009, 01:19 AM
01-23-2009, 01:21 AM
PS I'd rather Pre emptive strike and always wonder than sit back and wait for times to get desperate.....best defence is a good offense.....
anyway, hope you aint hating on me too much, remember me and you on the same side man!
01-23-2009, 01:23 AM
my other concern obviously is when we went into baghdad. we did so, because there were 70 some odd people who could have taken sadaams place, and 50+ of them were crazier than sadaam was - hence the deck of cards with 52 faces of people to capture/kill. who knows what nutcase has something, or how crazy they are. its better to find them one by one than to piss of a complete lunatic.
01-23-2009, 01:27 AM
01-23-2009, 01:33 AM
i had a friend from iran. he told me a story on when sadaam invaded iran, they wiped out his whole village. he's one of four survivors. but i digress. he once said that they're pissed because the middle east (babylon) is the birthplace of civilization. then they see videos of america, and all the nifty things we have and they say "where's ours?".
my response was "well, my ancestors did what most people would do - move out of the desert!" seriously, why live in a place that for all appearances is a barren wasteland? again, i think by treating them right, and slowly introducing an active democracy where they can get what they want, and join the internet revolution, etc, they will find there's not so much to complain about anymore.
of course, i always tend to look on the positive
01-23-2009, 02:23 AM
01-23-2009, 11:19 AM
01-23-2009, 11:31 AM
The mindset of "well my ancestors did/suffered this" means jack squat application to your life or success. Blame slavery, piss and whine about Christian persecution, had rich parents? So what have YOU DONE????
cradle of civilizatiON is a relative term to state that at the time they were luckier and more advanced than anyone else....like being the smartest kid in class- in the 3rd grade - means othing if individuals and societies do not continue to push.
01-23-2009, 11:52 AM
in a way i can understand where they're coming from, but when you live in an unhospitable place, your best option is to move... or make it more liveable, which none of the leaders in the middle ease have done - except for dubai.
EDIT : i fully understand where you're coming from dsade - the crutches in life are the ones you place on yourself.
02-28-2009, 11:02 PM
sorry but all of you are lost. do u believe what school and the news teach you?? we have no ****ing CLUE on whats going on behind the scenes
03-01-2009, 01:01 AM
03-01-2009, 01:15 AM
03-01-2009, 01:44 AM
03-01-2009, 01:59 AM
03-01-2009, 04:54 AM
And yes we have targeted children, women and civil infrastructures. 500,000 children have died as a result of US/UN sanctions imposed on iraq. Starving a country of medical supplies, food is just as bad as planting a bomb in street.
Bombs are the weapons of the poor, Economic Sanctions are the weapons the wealthy.
In this world we are no different than the terrorist we fight. The United States has caused more harm to women, children and innocent civilians world wide than any terrorist organization. Whether we supply weapons or use CIA to train operatives, we are responsible. As Americans we like to pretend we are different than those "terrorist" we are fighting, but in reality they only exist because of our foreign policies.
03-01-2009, 11:14 AM
03-01-2009, 01:08 PM
03-01-2009, 03:31 PM
03-01-2009, 04:38 PM
Of COURSE there is a whole lot behind the scenes we (the general public) dont know. That is a given, Just spare me your lame attempts to look cool, by claiming to know assassins and other vaious an assorted CIA dark men. No one thinks your cool F**K wit.
Wanna come out with big statements like you did and claim "where all lost" fine, so back it up with something concrete??
You wont, you know it, I know it and everyone that reads this thread knows it. Go Put a James Bond movie on or something, and tell yourself how cool you are
Im outta this thread, nothing worse than a try hard who try's to act like they know world conspiracies but has nothing behind it.
03-01-2009, 04:40 PM
03-01-2009, 05:01 PM
He was told this by his father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate... So it must be true! You don't believe anything else you read, see or hear but when it comes from a third party of a friend who couldn't saying other than "everything in the news, class rooms is bs." you're a convinced man!
03-01-2009, 05:09 PM
LOL, Aside from that being a perfect point Jay, was that first bit from Spaceballs?? Taking me back there dude!
03-01-2009, 05:11 PM
03-13-2009, 10:01 PM
At times, I feel sorry for the men and women of the military because they are serving corporate interest more than national interest.
Before 9/11 we gave the taliban 43 million dollars because they had wiped out the opium production then we came in and now opium/heroin production is at it's highest.
War makes money for the banks that lend it the combatants. We are in debt as a nation and people are rich of our dead and wounded. This makes me angry. Our soldiers swore to protect our constitution not corporate interest.
As a nation we've funded over throws of Governments in which we trained (at the College of the Americas) guerilla and terrorist tactics to many leaders across the world especially in central America. Most recent failure of the CIA was the overthrow of the Hugo Chavez(2002) because he wants his oil for his people. Hence why he hates Bush, and why the US does not like him.
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