Al-Qaeda vows to hurt Obama's US

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Rugger View Post
    Wow. You seem to know all about me huh. Who do you think taught me Arabic? A white American? Who do you think was the professor in the Middle East and Islam classes I've taken? Americans? HA.

    Do you even know that I am American? I could live and study at King Saud University in Riyadh for all you know.

    Oh, and yes I do know there were and are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. How do I know, you ask? Because the United States has sold WMD to Iraq in the past and 550 tons of yellow uranium cake was very recently in Iraq as documented by the IAEA, UN and every major media outlet in the world. Thousands of tons of cake and other materials are still in Iraq. If you search online you will find documented encounters of intact vials of Ricin and mustard gas also.


    With every post you have made in this thread, you have lost credibility. Everything you post from now on is a waste of time.


    PS- Since you still refuse to believe that the word Al Qaeda means something, you should refer to the online video where Abdelmalek Droudkal explains the meaning behind it as well as the meaning behind the name of his own organization.
    Mustard gas was found in shells. As far as I know the current status is that no WMD's were "officially" claimed in Iraq. I am well aware the US sold them chemical weapons because that is what they used to gas the kurds and Iranians. As for the 550 tons of yellow cake, it was found. Then it was sent to canada and does not constitute a WMD because it is not potent enough to be used in a dirty bomb. The UN had an eye on the Yellow cake so it was never hidden.

    My main point is, much of what is learned through college is often tainted by the politics of the region and the views of the people. In the US we will never learn of the attrocities done by us to other country or the hypocrisy in our foreign policy.

    Al Queda can mean whatever, my point is only that it is a shadow threat. It isn't real, it's only there to scare Americans.


  2. Haha. Whatever.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Rugger View Post
    Haha. Whatever.
    Whatever what?

  4. Al Queda is a blanket statement for all terrorists in my opinion. I think that we need to find Osama Bin Laden and Al-Zawari, and kill the SOB's already. There is no excuse as to why they are still alive. We would likely have to go into Pakistan to do it, and I think we should.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by nopeace View Post
    Mustard gas was found in shells. As far as I know the current status is that no WMD's were "officially" claimed in Iraq. I am well aware the US sold them chemical weapons because that is what they used to gas the kurds and Iranians. As for the 550 tons of yellow cake, it was found. Then it was sent to canada and does not constitute a WMD because it is not potent enough to be used in a dirty bomb. The UN had an eye on the Yellow cake so it was never hidden.

    My main point is, much of what is learned through college is often tainted by the politics of the region and the views of the people. In the US we will never learn of the attrocities done by us to other country or the hypocrisy in our foreign policy.

    Al Queda can mean whatever, my point is only that it is a shadow threat. It isn't real, it's only there to scare Americans.
    Dudes got a good point, but doesnt change my simple/effective solution. Level the entire farken middle east and everyone will be better off.
    Where's the nuke button? Push it america, push it!! why are these pieces of **** still drawing breath?
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by OzzY SluGGa View Post
    Dudes got a good point, but doesnt change my simple/effective solution. Level the entire farken middle east and everyone will be better off.
    Where's the nuke button? Push it america, push it!! why are these pieces of **** still drawing breath?
    Oh man, this guy! This has got to be Chad reincarnate. Where you been man?!

  7. Quote Originally Posted by DR.D View Post
    I think they keep cloning him or something, lol
    #2 guy...what a crappy job. If you make it to #1, urine the money.
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by DR.D View Post
    Oh man, this guy! This has got to be Chad reincarnate. Where you been man?!
    Chad??
    Im Zac but apparently this chad must be a funny dude!

  9. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    #2 guy...what a crappy job. If you make it to #1, urine the money.
    LOL

    ahhhh... No.1, it's time for you to meet No.2

  10. Quote Originally Posted by OzzY SluGGa View Post
    Chad??
    Im Zac but apparently this chad must be a funny dude!
    Zac huh? That's pretty close to Chad, kinda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nopeace View Post
    They dont get shaved *****. And it drives them mad!!!!
    Once again you show how little you know about them. Muslim women have to shave their pussies it's part of their religion.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by DR.D View Post
    I think they keep cloning him or something, lol
    WHO DOES NUMBER 2 WORK FOR!!?!?!?

  13. Quote Originally Posted by OzzY SluGGa View Post
    Dudes got a good point, but doesnt change my simple/effective solution. Level the entire farken middle east and everyone will be better off.
    Where's the nuke button? Push it america, push it!! why are these pieces of **** still drawing breath?
    yes, lets nuke the middle east - what have they done for us?

    - biggest reservoirs of oil
    - inflated the US dollar because its internationally recognized as trade for a barrel of oil (UAE)

    prepare to loose 20% of your savings overnight
    and that doesn't even include gas going back to 4-5 bucks a gallon.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Mjolnir View Post
    WHO DOES NUMBER 2 WORK FOR!!?!?!?
    lol, I'm not sure. Either it was Dr.Evil or Austin Powers, I can't remember which now.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by DR.D View Post
    lol, I'm not sure. Either it was Dr.Evil or Austin Powers, I can't remember which now.
    was austin powers. the texan in the next stall said "that's right! you tell that turd who's boss."

  16. Quote Originally Posted by suncloud View Post
    yes, lets nuke the middle east - what have they done for us?

    - biggest reservoirs of oil
    - inflated the US dollar because its internationally recognized as trade for a barrel of oil (UAE)

    prepare to loose 20% of your savings overnight
    and that doesn't even include gas going back to 4-5 bucks a gallon.
    So use some weapon that doesnt destroy the oil! Sheesh, do I have to think of everything? the rest of the world gotta come up with a replacement for oil! After all, isn't neccessity the mother of all invention? I cant stand the Arabs they are pigs. Child killers, and female mutilators. Were better off without them.

  17. this has turned in to an entertaining thread.... but i thought we already too out Al-Zawari!

  18. Quote Originally Posted by OzzY SluGGa View Post
    So use some weapon that doesnt destroy the oil! Sheesh, do I have to think of everything? the rest of the world gotta come up with a replacement for oil! After all, isn't neccessity the mother of all invention? I cant stand the Arabs they are pigs. Child killers, and female mutilators. Were better off without them.
    um. oil is based on the dollar. not the euro, not the yen. if UAE were truly our enemies (george bush is on great relations with them), they would base oil per barrel by euro, which would deflate our dollar overnight by around 20%.

    to say that they're all our enemies is a blanket statement of hate - much like how the KKK views blacks. that view in fact is why the middle east doesn't like us - people like you lump terrorist and freedom fighter together as a common enemy. the middle east returns the favor by saying all americans hate them. thanks (insert sarcasm here).

    female mutilators is actually an african tradition, limited to tribes, where the clitoris is removed - not a middle eastern tradition.

    as far as child killers goes, i notice you don't extend that to israel, who not only killed over a hundred children this month, who also bought 14-17 year old women from russia during the collapse of communism and forced them into brothels. did i mention that we give israel over 4 billion dollars of aid every year. you can easily draw a parallel that in some form or another, given our aid, the US is promoting child molestation in israel. i would also venture a guess, that due to abortion laws in the united states, that we kill much more children than the middle east.

  19. I think it's high time America strikes fear into it existing and future enemies - if you get my drift.

    Everyone knows they've got the fire power but everyone knows they ain't going to use it.

    Collateral damage - it already happens. Public Opinion? Didn't stop the abortion that was the Coalition of the Willing (and I say that with no disrespect to former or current servicemen)

    Al Queida makes a threat? Nuke the area. Then maybe Iran may take a step back. Russia would calm the fuck down and China would think twice.

    If Israel saw Iran as an immediate threat, do you think they wouldn't?

    Just my uneducated 2c worth...

  20. Quote Originally Posted by jakellpet View Post
    I think it's high time America strikes fear into it existing and future enemies - if you get my drift.

    Everyone knows they've got the fire power but everyone knows they ain't going to use it.

    Collateral damage - it already happens. Public Opinion? Didn't stop the abortion that was the Coalition of the Willing (and I say that with no disrespect to former or current servicemen)

    Al Queida makes a threat? Nuke the area. Then maybe Iran may take a step back. Russia would calm the fuck down and China would think twice.

    If Israel saw Iran as an immediate threat, do you think they wouldn't?

    Just my uneducated 2c worth...
    Damn straight Jakell,
    Im guessing anyone Pro Arab hasnt buried a love one due to these pigs. Are we forever to be at their mercy cause we wont look for an alternative to oil? We are bent over and cop it cause we feel we have no choice? And as far as mutilation....May well have its origins in Africa. Does that change that they do it? And gain Im guessing the pro Arabs dont have a mutilated sister. Anyway, I better not come back to this thread, Supporters of our enemy make me sick, you know who you are.....whos ****ing side you on....
    **** Al-Queda, and ANYONE that makes excuses for them.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by OzzY SluGGa View Post
    Damn straight Jakell,
    Im guessing anyone Pro Arab hasnt buried a love one due to these pigs. Are we forever to be at their mercy cause we wont look for an alternative to oil? We are bent over and cop it cause we feel we have no choice? And as far as mutilation....May well have its origins in Africa. Does that change that they do it? And gain Im guessing the pro Arabs dont have a mutilated sister. Anyway, I better not come back to this thread, Supporters of our enemy make me sick, you know who you are.....whos ****ing side you on....
    **** Al-Queda, and ANYONE that makes excuses for them.
    i think you're a bit off base here.

    in memory thread!
    post 9 is me, for my friend who died on september 11, so don't you dare accuse me of supporting terrorists. and yes, i was also a soldier.

    the problem with iraq, is the audacity and sheer arrogance of the terrorists. they dress like civilians, hide with civilians, then complain when a civilian dies. they don't have the balls do get in a uniform so we know who they are - terrorists are pussies, and always will be. i hope the 72 virgins end up like that family guy episode - 72 nerds on computers all playing warcraft.

    there is a problem in condemning the whole nation though - you can't say anyone who helped us, and lived through sadaams evil regime deserve to die because of their race - unless you also believe that middle easterners can say the same of us and george bush taking away our rights that our soldiers fought for.

    we can say that all terrorists deserve death. so does anyone who is willing to kill innocent civilians to achieve an end goal - be careful that you are not one of those as soon as we start targeting the innocent, we become no better.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by suncloud View Post
    i think you're a bit off base here.

    in memory thread!
    post 9 is me, for my friend who died on september 11, so don't you dare accuse me of supporting terrorists. and yes, i was also a soldier.

    the problem with iraq, is the audacity and sheer arrogance of the terrorists. they dress like civilians, hide with civilians, then complain when a civilian dies. they don't have the balls do get in a uniform so we know who they are - terrorists are pussies, and always will be. i hope the 72 virgins end up like that family guy episode - 72 nerds on computers all playing warcraft.

    there is a problem in condemning the whole nation though - you can't say anyone who helped us, and lived through sadaams evil regime deserve to die because of their race - unless you also believe that middle easterners can say the same of us and george bush taking away our rights that our soldiers fought for.

    we can say that all terrorists deserve death. so does anyone who is willing to kill innocent civilians to achieve an end goal - be careful that you are not one of those as soon as we start targeting the innocent, we become no better.
    Well, you make some good points certainly. Ok, but even if i step back and calm down I still cant help but think of WW2, and the atom bomb. America saved us all from possibly living under the Yoke of japanese rule. it was done by murdering thousands upon thousands of civilians. But, Imagine if it was never done??! Sometimes, we gotta fight fire with fire man. We gotta retaliate twice as lethal for every strike against the western world. make it not worth it for them to even consider ****ing with us. But I will leave it, we should prob just agree to disagree.
    And props to you for your service to your country. Got a brother in the forces (afghanistan, 3RAR) nice work. No one knows better than boots on the ground.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by OzzY SluGGa View Post
    Well, you make some good points certainly. Ok, but even if i step back and calm down I still cant help but think of WW2, and the atom bomb. America saved us all from possibly living under the Yoke of japanese rule. it was done by murdering thousands upon thousands of civilians. But, Imagine if it was never done??! Sometimes, we gotta fight fire with fire man. We gotta retaliate twice as lethal for every strike against the western world. make it not worth it for them to even consider ****ing with us. But I will leave it, we should prob just agree to disagree.
    And props to you for your service to your country. Got a brother in the forces (afghanistan, 3RAR) nice work. No one knows better than boots on the ground.
    the atom bomb was what i like to call "desperate times call for desperate measures". by no means are we that desperate right now. the casualties were terrible, but the japanese at that time would not have stopped until they won, so we dropped the bomb. when you live under a code of honor such as they do (where dying to preserve honor is expected), there were few other choices left for us. again, desperate times.

    yes, we need to retaliate, and yes, every terrorist deserves whatever misery we can inflict on them. however, allow yourself to consider the possibility that we kill a mother and father, and permanently disfigure a 3 year old boy. when that boy grows up, he will have hate in his heart for us, and what we did to his family, and in some way, he will feel justified in retaliating against us - maybe a repeat of 9/11. this is what i would prevent.

    by doing this war tactfully, we prevent others from joining the enemy because of indiscriminate killing.

    kill the terrorists. kill them without passion, without mercy. they want to meet allah, lets get them to him faster! but do not let other enemies rise up because of a mistake on our part. that's where i'm coming from. we've lost enough innocents already. IMO.

    congrats for having a brother in service. its a thankless job, that will be more thankless if the civilian body count rises too high - that kind of stress can place a toll on the spirit.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by jakellpet View Post
    ... Al Queida makes a threat? Nuke the area. Then maybe Iran may take a step back. Russia would calm the fuck down and China would think twice. ...
    Ya really think so? Russia's insulted (and losing business now too) and China could just be itching to flex for economic pull. I used to think like you, but I think I might be skeptical now.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by suncloud View Post
    the atom bomb was what i like to call "desperate times call for desperate measures". by no means are we that desperate right now. the casualties were terrible, but the japanese at that time would not have stopped until they won, so we dropped the bomb. when you live under a code of honor such as they do (where dying to preserve honor is expected), there were few other choices left for us. again, desperate times.

    yes, we need to retaliate, and yes, every terrorist deserves whatever misery we can inflict on them. however, allow yourself to consider the possibility that we kill a mother and father, and permanently disfigure a 3 year old boy. when that boy grows up, he will have hate in his heart for us, and what we did to his family, and in some way, he will feel justified in retaliating against us - maybe a repeat of 9/11. this is what i would prevent.

    by doing this war tactfully, we prevent others from joining the enemy because of indiscriminate killing.

    kill the terrorists. kill them without passion, without mercy. they want to meet allah, lets get them to him faster! but do not let other enemies rise up because of a mistake on our part. that's where i'm coming from. we've lost enough innocents already. IMO.
    Again, intelligent points mate. BUT, they are raised to hate (us-Western World) So, It seems silly to atempt to do right by them when it wont be acknowledged. You know what I mean? they will hate us anyway so why not stomp. Button line though, i mean you been a soldier I know Iron Lungz too. So Im not gonna preach too much. I guess, i just dont like Arabs man. LOL. sorry!
    PS I'd rather Pre emptive strike and always wonder than sit back and wait for times to get desperate.....best defence is a good offense.....
    anyway, hope you aint hating on me too much, remember me and you on the same side man!

  26. Quote Originally Posted by DR.D View Post
    Ya really think so? Russia's insulted (and losing business now too) and China could just be itching to flex for economic pull. I used to think like you, but I think I might be skeptical now.
    when russia collapsed, they lost accountability of almost a third of its nuclear arsenal. who knows who's got something now.

    my other concern obviously is when we went into baghdad. we did so, because there were 70 some odd people who could have taken sadaams place, and 50+ of them were crazier than sadaam was - hence the deck of cards with 52 faces of people to capture/kill. who knows what nutcase has something, or how crazy they are. its better to find them one by one than to piss of a complete lunatic.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by OzzY SluGGa View Post
    Again, intelligent points mate. BUT, they are raised to hate (us-Western World) So, It seems silly to atempt to do right by them when it wont be acknowledged. You know what I mean? they will hate us anyway so why not stomp. Button line though, i mean you been a soldier I know Iron Lungz too. So Im not gonna preach too much. I guess, i just dont like Arabs man. LOL. sorry!
    PS I'd rather Pre emptive strike and always wonder than sit back and wait for times to get desperate.....best defence is a good offense.....
    anyway, hope you aint hating on me too much, remember me and you on the same side man!
    yeah, i understand where you're coming from. i think (hopefully) that if we are kind, willing to help, concerned about basic human rights, etc, that their view of us will change over time. there's plenty of people getting over the atrocities already, some of which will be permanently scarred mentally. hopefully the next generation will see how we went in, the good that came out of it, and will have a positive view of america, and how we interact with the world.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by OzzY SluGGa View Post
    BUT, they are raised to hate (us-Western World) So, It seems silly to atempt to do right by them when it wont be acknowledged.
    an interesting story here.

    i had a friend from iran. he told me a story on when sadaam invaded iran, they wiped out his whole village. he's one of four survivors. but i digress. he once said that they're pissed because the middle east (babylon) is the birthplace of civilization. then they see videos of america, and all the nifty things we have and they say "where's ours?".

    my response was "well, my ancestors did what most people would do - move out of the desert!" seriously, why live in a place that for all appearances is a barren wasteland? again, i think by treating them right, and slowly introducing an active democracy where they can get what they want, and join the internet revolution, etc, they will find there's not so much to complain about anymore.

    of course, i always tend to look on the positive

  29. Quote Originally Posted by suncloud View Post
    an interesting story here.

    i had a friend from iran. he told me a story on when sadaam invaded iran, they wiped out his whole village. he's one of four survivors. but i digress. he once said that they're pissed because the middle east (babylon) is the birthplace of civilization. then they see videos of america, and all the nifty things we have and they say "where's ours?".

    my response was "well, my ancestors did what most people would do - move out of the desert!" seriously, why live in a place that for all appearances is a barren wasteland? again, i think by treating them right, and slowly introducing an active democracy where they can get what they want, and join the internet revolution, etc, they will find there's not so much to complain about anymore.

    of course, i always tend to look on the positive
    That you do my friend! and a far more tolerant man than me it is plain

  30. Quote Originally Posted by OzzY SluGGa View Post
    That you do my friend! and a far more tolerant man than me it is plain
    different sides of the same coin - hope for the best, plan for the worst!
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