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    lol right

    just like 2 weeks ago these 4 students who lived in the Crops Unit had a confederate flag and a noose and all hell broke lose. The school president wrote like 4 letters to all students, there have been like 4 community meetings, the news is still covering it. This was ****ing 2 weeks ago and an isolated incident involving 4 goddam kids. Everyone is acting like our whole goddamn school is racist

    meanwhile last year a black student got an article published in the college newspaper about how he hated white people, and no one said ****

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    Post his article. Why didn't people complain about it?

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    Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
    lol right

    just like 2 weeks ago these 4 students who lived in the Crops Unit had a confederate flag and a noose and all hell broke lose. The school president wrote like 4 letters to all students, there have been like 4 community meetings, the news is still covering it. This was ****ing 2 weeks ago and an isolated incident involving 4 goddam kids. Everyone is acting like our whole goddamn school is racist

    meanwhile last year a black student got an article published in the college newspaper about how he hated white people, no joke
    Exactly. Sometimes it feels like a double standard. It's okay for us, but not for you. Fyck that. I am not racist so don't take it that way.

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    Originally Posted by FincaChick View Post
    The best thing I feel that people can hope for is to start confronting ignorances and perhaps learn something. The basis of racism is ignorance.
    True ignorance is the basis of racism. And this ignorance is on all sides of the fence. Understanding is what we need and the cynicism that has been around for so long is deconstructive. Double standards cannot exist either.

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    Originally Posted by jon671 View Post
    Exactly. Sometimes it feels like a double standard. It's okay for us, but not for you. Fyck that. I am not racist so don't take it that way.
    no question its a double standard

    forgot to mention when the black guy wrote the article, no one said ****
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    Originally Posted by Emerge View Post
    ****ing ridiculous.
    What is?

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    Originally Posted by Jayhawkk View Post
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    I understand where you're coming from.....but, I just don't care what people think, only what they say and do......so if people want to entertain racism, sexism, intolerance, etc.... who am I to tell them they can't?

    If they say or do something about it, I'll have an issue then.

    And no, it wouldn't affect a review I write, I know from experience.

    However, zero of my friends are religious, racist, homosexuals, average IQ, vegetarians, etc..... isn't that discrimination? Yes, I don't associate much with people who have these qualities.

    What makes me different than a racist, race is a factor, just like intelligence and religious beliefs, how is a racist different than a person who discriminates based on the above factors? even if race is not one of them?

    My beliefs, at work they are not valid, in my personal life they are and still.....I don't bother anyone to begin with, so why would it matter if I already hated their guts or disliked them, nothing wrong with that, only when you say or act on it, although the inability of most people to keep that fine line in check....is when it becomes a problem....

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    The inherent problem in affirmative action is that it brings race to the forefront, whether it was an issue or not. The best way to end racism is not to redirect it, as affirmative action does, but to have it end naturally.

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    Originally Posted by RobInKuwait View Post
    The inherent problem in affirmative action is that it brings race to the forefront, whether it was an issue or not. The best way to end racism is not to redirect it, as affirmative action does, but to have it end naturally.
    Ha, that's funny, I used to say that to people and they'd say I'm full of sh*t.

    Hey IMO, if you make something an issue officially, it will remain an issue, if you don't make it an issue, it'll slide away and reach equilibrium just fine.....but, like all good ideas end....DO NOT WANT.....


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    Originally Posted by jon671 View Post
    True ignorance is the basis of racism. And this ignorance is on all sides of the fence. Understanding is what we need and the cynicism that has been around for so long is deconstructive. Double standards cannot exist either.

    I think that ths is the truest, clearest, most non-biased thing that has been said so far. If everyone else could realize this it would be much more beneficial for everyone as a whole. So much can come of this if people are open. I guess this is where the maturity level will come in.

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    well i guess from being a black man this is all pretty funny to read. until you have lived the life I guess you realy cant comment on it. I dnt pay attention to race but it pays attention to me. Just because Barack is elect dosent make things better for me or my children. I have always had to work extra hard to get ahead in life. The one thing that Barack has going for him is that hes 50/50. Oh what about tiger, but he did make up his own race though. well I wonder If these guys never talked about there ethnic makeup would things turn out diffrently. I mean It does make me feel better because now I can get into a elevator with a white woman and she wont feel un easy. Thanks to Barack. Come on man lets get real. racism still is hear it may not be like in the past but its just as evident today as yesterday. I wonder how many ni***** Barack has been called since he won, In subberb white homes. Or do you think that some one isnt plotting on taken him out. The media plays a big part in this as well. African Americans are potraid as unruly thugs, true enough alot of them do it them selfs but they are not trying to show us as any dfiffrent. But all the major tv stations are owned by, we dont have to say. African americans have been the most looked down upon race that has walked this planet, not even the jewish people sufferd as mush as we have. It wasnt about religon with us it waqs simply skin color. What all people need to understand is that it takes a higher power to help us to over come our fallen nature it dosent matter who you are where theres hate theres murder where theres greed theres jealous people and strife, envy, wrath and a host of other things. thank god for his son who can set you free from these things. Im not here to argue about that, his word speaks for it self. The things he said would happen are happening befor are very eyes and some are to blind to see. I cant wait to get to a place where race dosent matter hopefukky those who read this will get there. But until that day In this world Im still a black man and will still be cosiderd lowert than most rather its voiced or not. Barack dosent have to worry about going broke, missing a meal or puttin food on his fams table as for me, well thats another story.

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    Originally Posted by FincaChick View Post
    I think that ths is the truest, clearest, most non-biased thing that has been said so far. If everyone else could realize this it would be much more beneficial for everyone as a whole. So much can come of this if people are open. I guess this is where the maturity level will come in.
    Glad you likey pretty girly.

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    But all the major tv stations are owned by, we dont have to say. African americans have been the most looked down upon race that has walked this planet, not even the jewish people sufferd as mush as we have
    You do realize that much of the media, television included, is owned by Jewish people?

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    Originally Posted by NattyT View Post
    But until that day In this world Im still a black man and will still be cosiderd lowert than most rather its voiced or not.
    Every black person I know doesn't have this attitude. I don't think of the black people I know any differently than white people I know. They're all people, I base my opinions on the person not their skin tone.

    If your teaching your children and telling your friends and family that it is a reality that black men are considered lower than most, you're part of the problem not the solution.

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    Racism is racism... I don't consider options for it to be 'reversed'. This is why I never mentioned races or minorities in my typing. It happens at every level by all races. Of course everyone has their own reason on why it's a legit way of thinking.

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    I recognize differences, but have an over all sense of equality with everyone. Stereotyping and what not to me is not racist. All people stereotype each other into "groups" where they feel safe. I think it is not only to put others in groups, but also themselves. Your faults are your own and no one elses. FTW!

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    Originally Posted by NattyT View Post
    I mean It does make me feel better because now I can get into a elevator with a white woman and she wont feel un easy. Thanks to Barack.
    "He will turn the hearts of the fathers to their children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers"

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    Originally Posted by NattyT View Post
    I dnt pay attention to race but it pays attention to me.
    Somehow, some way someone always reminds me. Never fails.

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    Originally Posted by NattyT View Post
    The media plays a big part in this as well. African Americans are potraid as unruly thugs, true enough alot of them do it them selfs but they are not trying to show us as any dfiffrent. But all the major tv stations are owned by, we dont have to say. African americans have been the most looked down upon race that has walked this planet, not even the jewish people sufferd as mush as we have.

    First thing. If you look at a network like BET, it perpetrates that image of inner-city thug life. And secondly, the attempted genocide of a whole religion collectively and the placement of those people in death camps is much more horrible than a situation where tribesman/woman who had small societies that weren't on par with what was then modern standards of socio-scientific development, were captured by people of enemy tribes or foreigners and sold off which would ultimately give their descendants a chance to not get eaten by jaguars, lions, or have to live in a third world country.

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    Originally Posted by ThomasRivera View Post
    First thing. If you look at a network like BET, it perpetrates that image of inner-city thug life. And secondly, the attempted genocide of a whole religion collectively and the placement of those people in death camps is much more horrible than a situation where tribesman/woman who had small societies that weren't on par with what was then modern standards of socio-scientific development, were captured by people of enemy tribes or foreigners and sold off which would ultimately give their descendants a chance to not get eaten by jaguars, lions, or have to live in a third world country.
    Are you stupid?

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