So Where's the "Change"?
- 11-10-2008, 10:03 AM
"As a candidate, Senator Obama said that he wanted all the Bush executive orders reviewed and decide which ones should be kept and which ones should be repealed and which ones should be amended, and that process is going on. It's been undertaken," Podesta said.
Podesta said Obama's team will be "looking at -- again, in virtually every agency -- to see where we can move forward, whether that's on energy transformation, on improving health care, on stem cell research."
Podesta said there is a lot the president can do without waiting for Congress, and voters can expect to see Obama do so to try to restore "a sense that the country is working on behalf of the common good."
While American's will be focusing on GM, Ford, 401k's, housing, mortgages, gas prices - he'll swiftly change the moral fabric of our country right under your noses. He's got debt's to pay...
"God bless America" - Figure I'd make the statement while I'm still allowedLife is a terminal condition.
- 11-10-2008, 10:32 AM
Shouldn't we wait until he's president before we throw him under the bus?
Might as well give him a chance to prove himself
11-10-2008, 12:10 PM
I think an open mind is looking objectively at the facts and coming to a realistic conclusion (or opinion, I try not to come to any final conclusions on anything).
Are there any other criminals you'd like me to keep an "open mind" about? Cheney perhaps?
He's already shown us what he's about.
He voted for the patriot act,
For giving a billion dollars to georgia,
For the Bailout,
For funding and continuing our ever expanding rediculous war,
I'd love for him to surprise me. But I'd be less surprised if I won the lottery (i've never bought a ticket)
11-10-2008, 01:10 PM
When he is commander in chief he can and will do things within his power to...review, repeal, amended, restore...without waiting for Congress.Podesta said there is a lot the president can do without waiting for Congress, and voters can expect to see Obama do so...
I believe what the pessimist (aka: realist) would interpret that to mean is - reverse.
That will be proving himself. This was part of the package.
OT: Interesting piece of data - some polls report Obama garnered 95% of the African American vote and 65% of the Hispanic American vote, yet 70% of African Americans and 60% of Hispanic Americans support California's Proposition 8 and Arizona's Proposition 102 - it's on his list!
Life is a terminal condition.
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11-10-2008, 07:25 PM
Mulletsoldier, almost nothing is completely unopinionated (math equations would be one). This kid is obviously well informed and knows what he's talking about.
The facts are there, his opinions that come from them are the debatable part.
This is reminding me of "On Bullsh!t" by Frankfurt. (a nice trendy little philosophy book that likely sold way more copies than it would have if it didnt have such a racy title. lol)
11-10-2008, 07:32 PM
Mulletsoldier, I'm assuming you're just trying to roughly shake us out of what may be unfounded opinions. If that's true, thank you and keep it up .
Though I dont think I'm being unreasonable. I would consider my opinions to be pretty well thought out and informed. If I'm wrong on anything (I prob am somewhere) please correct me so I dont repeat incorrect bull and make myself look stupid in the future.
11-10-2008, 09:42 PM
At any rate, those are his opinions, which he feels are of epistemological status due to his research. I simply see you posting videos and agreeing with what is said, without proving a word of your position.
11-10-2008, 09:43 PM
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but in all cereal mulletsodier, you're request for me to site the history of what has sculpted my opinions thus far would be quite the time consuming task. (maybe on a boring sunday I'll tackle such a project.)
What are your motives here? Are you an intellectual obama supporter? (if so, you're one of a kind... who has been on a strict diet consisting of only corporate media.)
11-11-2008, 04:33 AM
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11-11-2008, 10:09 AM
I have not asked you for an entire chronology of American Corporate-Politics, just a quick explanation with relevant proof on why you feel what you feel. You have lambasted Obama-followers in general (myself not being one of them) for blindly following the God-like portrayal of Obama in the mainstream news-media; as I see it, you are committing the exact same fallacy, but simply painting it in a different position. You dislike Obama because he is a populist candidate, and that is clear. Now would be the time to justify your belief with some proof beyond YouTube videos, friend. If you notice, I have never stated anything positive and/or negative about Obama - merely that you need to provide better proof for your rhetoric.
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11-13-2008, 01:06 PM
The Dream Is Over
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Life is a terminal condition.
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