Assault Weapons Ban 2008 bill
- 11-05-2008, 08:20 PM
- 11-05-2008, 11:27 PM
11-05-2008, 11:52 PM
No collection is nice, but the ban of sale still makes me sick.
They will never stop inching this sh!t on us. If they took our guns in one sweep we'd flip out, so they do it in increments.
I voted "oppose."
A well armed populous is the best defense against tyranny.
Thomas Jefferson: "Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry."
It is tyranny to ban the sale of any weapons, tase proof fabric and body armor, to the public when law enforcement uses them.
I am also extremely opposed to "Gun Free Zones." What [email protected] came up with that idea? The lack of logic there is astounding.
11-06-2008, 02:10 AM
11-06-2008, 08:05 AM
11-06-2008, 11:08 PM
Omen, Dude Your a ****ing wild man.... mad props.....are you prior service? If even 15% of americans took self defense seriously i truely believe violent crimes would decline. You are not only defending yourself but others around you. You dont even have to physically act in a situation, by keeping your cool and understanding the situation you can help the police or who ever more so than a histerical ass clown.
11-07-2008, 01:28 AM
No, I tried to get in the Military, not gonna work for now(security clearance issues), considering the Police academy.
I'm 21, so maybe after a few years, I'll try again.
I agree with the above too, most people freak out like a f**king chimpanzee on crack..... when I call 911, more than once they thought I was kidding because I'm calm and just give facts instead of OMG every 2 seconds.
11-07-2008, 02:56 AM
Completely against it. I got robbed by ****ing gang bangers (bloods). Took one down and started pounding after that the other three jumped me. Most people who would vote for it live sheltered lives. Oh yeah the only one they caught was the driver and he might get off. When I went to the police station to identify him they didn't do a fuc*ing line up. So I am supposed to trust pigs with my life. Fu*k that. The only reason I didn't bust those fu*ks was certain things are "unlicensed"
11-07-2008, 04:36 AM
Would the d0uche bags that voted "support" like to explain themselves???
SomeWhatGifted, I'm VERY disappointed in you
11-07-2008, 09:56 PM
I'm down for biometrically labeled guns.
Guns that can only be operated by their legal owners/purchasers.
11-07-2008, 09:59 PM
11-07-2008, 10:01 PM
What if it's your wife's gun and your wife just got shot in the head?
What if your hands are dirty(oil, food, etc...) and you need to use the gun but it can't identify you?
What if you can take a gun from one attacker, thinking you can defend yourself against the others, but nothing happens? And this is not unlikely to happen, within arms reach, I can disarm anyone of their firearm and place two rounds in them with their own firearm in less than 2 seconds.
11-07-2008, 10:02 PM
11-07-2008, 10:03 PM
11-07-2008, 10:16 PM
11-07-2008, 10:21 PM
11-08-2008, 04:05 AM
11-08-2008, 04:20 AM
11-08-2008, 04:22 AM
Yeah, if I want to use your gun and you got a biometric ID system, after I knock you down and stab your eyes or slit your throat with my knife, I'm cutting your finger off, slicing a thick piece of skin and taping it to the ID part and use YOUR gun, to commit more crimes.
Nice idea though.
11-08-2008, 04:24 AM
11-08-2008, 05:49 AM
11-08-2008, 10:19 AM
11-08-2008, 02:15 PM
From a press release in 2004:
Smith & Wesson has announced their partnership with American Security Co. to add safes and biometric guns to their product line.
11-08-2008, 02:34 PM
OhGizmo! » Archive » A Biometric Smart Gun
Looks pretty cool. One thing about this biometric gun, is that its your grip that determines whether it fires. Not sure how useful it will be to law enforcement for tracking down people, as there is no grip database out there. It would be good for verifying you have the right guy tho.
11-08-2008, 02:46 PM
I've seen some other implementations too. One where the user wears a magnetic ring, which is tied to a magnetic responder in the gun itself. Only the person w/ the ring could fire the gun. Not a perfect solution, but a step forwards.
This would also ensure gun reliability. NJIT has a program dedicated to "smart" guns, which work off dna, grip, and numerous other factors that help to authorize a user.
11-08-2008, 03:00 PM
I'm a firearms instructor(getting that out of the way before my next statement)
I find no reason what-so-ever to own fully automatic weapons. Outside of being a collector but I really don't care if you're a collector. There are plenty of people out there that would love to collect things but can't because they're illegal. I find no modern day reasons to have fully auto weapons other than the argument of 'i want my guns'. While I don't find it a good argument I accept the fact that people feel strongly about it.
You're not stopping thieves/rapists/burglers any better with an ak47 than you can with any other semi-auto weapon that wouldn't be banned. The argument of protecting yourself from your government is bull****. There's not a militia alive in the US today that can stand up to the military of their state/country. In the days it was written it made sense but today it doesn't.
I also believe that banning fully auto weapons isn't going to lead to some kind of reduction in crime either.
11-08-2008, 03:40 PM
11-09-2008, 12:17 AM
11-09-2008, 01:59 AM
11-09-2008, 02:32 AM
So if you want 12-15 round mags for your .45, Forget it! even active LE and Military cannot purchase them personally! only through the agency IF they authorize it and/or deem it necessary for work!
To purchase a full auto assault weapon, you need a $200 tax stamp, background check(3 months wait), tons of paper work, same thing for a silencer.....too much work and money for me, not to mention the actual weapon itself is $5000 Minimum.
What boggles me is that this is to be enforced and reduce crime......yet, last time I checked, criminals never cared about any law, let alone an assault weapon ban, a lot of people I know in the hood and around my neighborhood have guns, most of them illegal and carry without a permit(illegal here, only legal in Alaska) some of the guns have 15-20 round mags, I doubt they even know that there's an assault weapon ban bill going on, the people it's intended for don't give a rats ass.
The only people that suffer from gun control are law abiding citizens, well because they abide by the law, criminals don't.
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