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  1. Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    No one can be sure in advance who will win. The voters will decide tomorrow.

    Sound words. Reps.

    Lets just get it over with.

    Its been beaten to death guys.....

    Let the voters decide tomorrow.

    I have one more night of millions of dollars being thrown away, then i get my TV back.

    At this point I dont care who wins, my stomach is sick for the money spent on it. SAD.


  2. Obama overpolled by as much as 7 points in some primary states. If this holds true tomorrow he could be in trouble.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Dadof2 View Post
    Obama overpolled by as much as 7 points in some primary states. If this holds true tomorrow he could be in trouble.

    Care to make a wager on that?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Dadof2 View Post
    Obama overpolled by as much as 7 points in some primary states. If this holds true tomorrow he could be in trouble.
    just curious where you heard that?
    I have heard something similar about NC, and Indiana but that wouldnt be enough

  5. Quote Originally Posted by DormantFiber View Post
    close enough... and that includes you... how many other polls did you vote in?
    I am British -despite what your govt may think and may i say some of its citizens- the world is not America and America is not the world
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Dadof2 View Post
    Obama overpolled by as much as 7 points in some primary states. If this holds true tomorrow he could be in trouble.
    Hollywood is behind Obama and the likes of Oprah Winfrey , George Clooney have helluva lot of fans who worship the ground they stand on -superficial i know- but when you have a lot of A list stars supporting a particular candidate , it can carry a lot of clout

  7. Quote Originally Posted by corsaking View Post
    Hollywood is behind Obama and the likes of Oprah Winfrey , George Clooney have helluva lot of fans who worship the ground they stand on -superficial i know- but when you have a lot of A list stars supporting a particular candidate , it can carry a lot of clout
    It was the same four years ago when John Kerry ran against Bush. He was endorsed by all the major celebrities and was ahead in the polls even on election day.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by slow-mun View Post
    It was the same four years ago when John Kerry ran against Bush. He was endorsed by all the major celebrities and was ahead in the polls even on election day.
    This year is more like 40 years ago, when Nixon ran against Humphrey - I'm sure you remember.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by slow-mun View Post
    It was the same four years ago when John Kerry ran against Bush. He was endorsed by all the major celebrities and was ahead in the polls even on election day.
    correct me if im wrong but wasnt there a recount in one of the states -Florida?- and didnt Bush cancel it?
    Can someone supply the backgound to this?
  10. Never enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper329 View Post
    come now rugger, lets at least be honest. no one here can take you seriously with the

    "I am a dem, let me tell you why to vote for mccain" nonsense
    why not?
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by slow-mun View Post
    It was the same four years ago when John Kerry ran against Bush. He was endorsed by all the major celebrities and was ahead in the polls even on election day.
    Actually if you look back, George Bush was ahead by 1 point on election day.

    :bruce3:
  12. Never enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fastone View Post
    Actually if you look back, George Bush was ahead by 1 point on election day.

    :bruce3:
    the early exit polls had kerry winning...
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by Reaper329 View Post
    just curious where you heard that?
    I have heard something similar about NC, and Indiana but that wouldnt be enough

    Frank Luntz, one of the more reliable pollsters, was talking about Obama's overpolling in the primaries for some time now. There is actually a name for it, when a person says they are going to vote for one candidate and vote for another once behind closed door, but I cannot recall at the moment.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68SS View Post
    Care to make a wager on that?
    Look at my post again, I didn't make a declarative statement to make a wager on. I simply pointed out a potential flaw in the polling data.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Dadof2 View Post
    Frank Luntz, one of the more reliable pollsters, was talking about Obama's overpolling in the primaries for some time now. There is actually a name for it, when a person says they are going to vote for one candidate and vote for another once behind closed door, but I cannot recall at the moment.
    The Bradley effect??

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Australian made View Post
    The Bradley effect??
    Yes.

  17. believe it

  18. Quote Originally Posted by rubberring View Post
    I'll trust Intrade on this one. But hey, let's meet back in this thread on Wednesday then, okay?
    Well, it looks like Intrade was right again. Not even close.

    Hello?... Where is everybody?

  19. By the way... since when is using the word "delusional" inappropriate or abusive language?

    delusional: having an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as truth

    Yeah... I'd say that my word choice was accurate and inoffensive... to those with a vocabulary or a dictionary.

    Good grief.

  20. YAY! Obama!!

  21. Congratulations to the Obama camp

    Commiserations to the McCain camp.

    From a British point of view i hope now we can stop being Bush s lapdog and can act independently of the US when it comes to Iraq

  22. Quote Originally Posted by corsaking View Post
    Congratulations to the Obama camp

    Commiserations to the McCain camp.

    From a British point of view i hope now we can stop being Bush s lapdog and can act independently of the US when it comes to Iraq
    Same for the aussies.........althoguh initially we will be sneding over even more troops to afghanistan.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Australian made View Post
    Same for the aussies.........althoguh initially we will be sneding over even more troops to afghanistan.

    well the focus is getting out of iraq and into afghanistan. Which i semi-agree on

  24. Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyEhsani View Post
    well the focus is getting out of iraq and into afghanistan. Which i semi-agree on
    Afghanistan is a lost cause.

    Its an entirely different ball game to Iraq

    British troops are ill equipped to fight this war , the MOD has failed to supply equipment which is suited to the task

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Australian made View Post
    Landslide

    For the life of me, I couldnt get any friendly wagers from friend or foe.

    Everyone thought it was going to be too close, myself included. Boy, was i wrong.

    MSNBC called it at 10pm.

    McCain concession speach at/around 10:15 central time.

    I must admit, McCain's concession speach was excellent.
    He should have spoke more like that through the campaign.

    Owell, now all these McCain vs Obama debates can end.

    Now i get to go rub it in at work. Today is good.
  26. Never enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68SS View Post
    Everyone thought it was going to be too close, myself included. Boy, was i wrong.
    it was closer than I expected, or the polls showed
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    it was closer than I expected, or the polls showed
    I didnt expect to know for sure until this morning. However McCain conceeded last night. That surprised me.

    Only 3 or 4 states were still not in when i woke up at 630. My state and few others.

    Popular was pretty close.

    Electorally, well thats a different story.
  28. Never enough
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    I thought they called ohio earlier than they should have and it did end up quite close, but pennsylvania and ohio were why he conceeded that early
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  29. Never enough
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    to give kristofer some perspective... here is a list of popular vote margins
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ar_vote_margin

    most other than bush were quite a bit higher than obama's margin, so unless you believe every president has had a mandate, sorry no mandate here. Had obama broken the 10% margin in popular vote, i would have felt it was a mandate even if I didn't agree with it
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