The only people worse than democrats
- 11-01-2008, 03:49 PM
The only people worse than democrats
Originally Posted by LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer
- 11-01-2008, 03:51 PM
11-01-2008, 03:58 PM
11-01-2008, 04:03 PM
I would love to see the polling for this, where your numbres are verified. Keep in mind that people might see themselves as conservative on issues and not overall. However, please source away (and of course we know that foxnews is as reliable as msnbc)
11-01-2008, 04:33 PM
You two are funny. There's about 40 million republicans, 40 million democrats, 10 million independents and 210 million too stupid to care
11-02-2008, 11:37 AM
It will be fascinating to see how it will all play out: "conservatives" in this country have lost touch with any meaningful conservative values & ideas , and have drifted so far to the right-hand extreme that they no longer know where the middle is (feel free to include yourself in that group).
Obama is nowhere near as leftward as you guys keep saying he is - and the fact that you keep saying he is just illustrates how badly your bearings have drifted
11-02-2008, 11:41 AM
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11-02-2008, 11:49 AM
11-02-2008, 11:51 AM
11-02-2008, 12:28 PM
11-02-2008, 12:39 PM
11-02-2008, 12:45 PM
I think think the fact that you uncritically accept admitted lies & fragmentary bits of old conversation, taken out of context and misrepresented as 'a true picture of Obama's politics', demonstrates more than adequately that you couldn't find the political middle in a brightly lit room with both hands and a compass.
11-02-2008, 12:49 PM
Or as Stephen Colbert put it so trenchantly, "reality has a well-known liberal bias!"
11-02-2008, 01:00 PM
11-02-2008, 01:13 PM
11-02-2008, 02:07 PM
Does not matter if you can tell the difference or not. Especially with the example you just gave, dude, I can tell you horror stories of what goes on behind those doors ... People are not as "blind" as some would paint it ... It's a difference between drinking your own water because you can vs being led to it.
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11-02-2008, 02:20 PM
Juries in general like to think inconsistencies are a sign of untruthfulness when in reality the lack of inconsistency over time is more often the first sign of a well rehearsed lie.
I have many friends in the legal system that fight on both sides to capitalize on this "blindness" you speak of when their case is long on theory and short on fact, as many cases tend to be.
What would you constitute as evidence?
11-02-2008, 02:21 PM
11-02-2008, 02:37 PM
11-03-2008, 07:08 AM
11-03-2008, 08:20 AM
Meacham: We're a Conservative Country | Newsweek Politics: Campaign 2008 | Newsweek.comSo are we a centrist country, or a right-of-center one? I think the latter, because the mean to which most Americans revert tends to be more conservative than liberal. . . . nearly twice as many people call themselves conservatives as liberals (40 percent to 20 percent), and Republicans have dominated presidential politics—in many ways the most personal, visceral vote we cast—for 40 years. Since 1968, Democrats have won only three of 10 general elections (1976, 1992 and 1996). . . .
I think I heard before that the survey originally came from Rasmussen, but I'm not 100% sure.
11-03-2008, 12:01 PM
11-03-2008, 12:23 PM
I dont know what your second paragraph means. But I am really tired, I've been studying approaches, VOR/NDB/ILS, holds, DME arcs and instruments till my eyes bleed, so if you have time to clarify I will gladly respond
11-03-2008, 12:30 PM
In reference to the historical political party and as defined by Merriam-Webster, someone favoring a strong centralized national government.
In contemporary usage, as articulated by President Bush's New Federalism, federalists advocate the principle of greater regional autonomy within the United States—usually by allowing individual states to set their own agendas and determine the handling of issues, rather than trying to impose a nationally uniform solution.
11-03-2008, 12:50 PM
The above is the way I was using the word federalist.In reference to the historical political party and as defined by Merriam-Webster, someone favoring a strong centralized national government.
Thats a rather odd definition, "New Federalism", this is the first I've heard of such a thing. Sound like "real americans" too me.In contemporary usage, as articulated by President Bush's New Federalism, federalists advocate the principle of greater regional autonomy within the United States—usually by allowing individual states to set their own agendas and determine the handling of issues, rather than trying to impose a nationally uniform solution.
11-03-2008, 12:55 PM
11-03-2008, 01:26 PM
11-03-2008, 01:32 PM
Well sculpted but also possessing rather selective vision on his behalf... I'm not sure where i've said I've uncritcally accepted anything, nor have I seen any proof to the contrary about obama's recordings. How do you reparse what is in audio from 5 years ago?
The fact that I dislike obama's stated economic policies and distrust his associations does not be default make me a far-righter. I don't believe in religious doctrine, believe in women's choice on abortions, equal rights for gay couples, etc. I'm a registered independent, and have voted for both democrats and republicans.
So as with Obama's own speeches although what BodyWizard wrote has some elegance, it doesn't mean it has any substance
11-03-2008, 01:37 PM
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