[jarhead]

This last week I was more disgusted than I have been in a long time at the state of politics in this country as well as the medias role in trying to influence us. I'll start by saying that I am neither a mccain or obama supporter. I wanted Ron Paul and since he's out will vote independent. My first gripe is this new bullshit about palin and "gotcha" journalism. This whole thing boiled my blood. In a nutshell in case you hadn't seen it yet, she was at a food stand and one of the people in line asked her about pakistan. Her reply was contradictory to mccains the night before at the debate. This was all caught on tape(the whole thing is on youtube) and their camp is claiming they were set up, or "gotcha journalism" because she had to answer a question on the spot. At what point did our standards drop so low that we now longer require a potential president to be able ANSWER a FREAKING question on the spot? This woman could be president for God's sake. If she can't even do that, she has no business being in any public office much less the highest one. And the media feeds into this ****. The votes are more important than the voters. And you have the media perpetuating this idea-some jackass "analyst" on fox(which says alot right there) talking about the bailout made the comment that "our politicians are listening to their costituates, which means betty sue sitting at home in oklahoma decided the fate of this bailout and that's not right." I almost lost it. When did that become a BAD thing?! That is the way it was SUPPOSED to be. It's almost as if we are being trained to be accepting of this **** and these ideas.

[Omen]

Glad someone else is pissed off like me.

People are f**king dumbed down, retarded and cowardly these days.

Walking down to get my groceries today, I feel I'm not the same f**king species as these mutherf**kers, it disgusts me how "weak/dumb" people have become.

To respond to the Sarah Palin issue, she's a f**king retard too, other than giving the president a blowjob(Hey bill ! you missed this one!), I have no idea what f**king use she is in the white house.

[jon671]

Originally Posted by jarhead

the medias role in trying to influence us.

The biggest evil in this country is television and all forms of advertising. I absolutely hate it, but I do video production for a living. I try and balance my projects and partake in nothing without some substance. Next project is a short documentary on a homeless man in my area, hopefully it can get some attention on him. He homeless, looks like he is almost dying and in a f*cking wheelchair, but the local senatorial race is raging like a mother. I truly believe I am a good person just because of the fact I don't snap and go Columbine on people

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[Rick28]

Originally Posted by jarhead

This last week I was more disgusted than I have been in a long time at the state of politics in this country as well as the medias role in trying to influence us. I'll start by saying that I am neither a mccain or obama supporter. I wanted Ron Paul and since he's out will vote independent. My first gripe is this new bullshit about palin and "gotcha" journalism. This whole thing boiled my blood. In a nutshell in case you hadn't seen it yet, she was at a food stand and one of the people in line asked her about pakistan. Her reply was contradictory to mccains the night before at the debate. This was all caught on tape(the whole thing is on youtube) and their camp is claiming they were set up, or "gotcha journalism" because she had to answer a question on the spot. At what point did our standards drop so low that we now longer require a potential president to be able ANSWER a FREAKING question on the spot? This woman could be president for God's sake. If she can't even do that, she has no business being in any public office much less the highest one. And the media feeds into this ****. The votes are more important than the voters. And you have the media perpetuating this idea-some jackass "analyst" on fox(which says alot right there) talking about the bailout made the comment that "our politicians are listening to their costituates, which means betty sue sitting at home in oklahoma decided the fate of this bailout and that's not right." I almost lost it. When did that become a BAD thing?! That is the way it was SUPPOSED to be. It's almost as if we are being trained to be accepting of this **** and these ideas.

I like your answer...by the way I am a supporter of Ron Paul too. I'm voting for the Constitutional Party. Chuck Baldwin '08,
Ron Paul endorsed him.

[RobInKuwait]

Originally Posted by Rick28

I like your answer...by the way I am a supporter of Ron Paul too. I'm voting for the Constitutional Party. Chuck Baldwin '08,
Ron Paul endorsed him.

Go Ron Paul!

I like Palin. I think most Republicans are more pissed that the "mainstream media" is in the tank for Obama. Everything is spun in his favor. Even a negative story has a positive spin on it. Palin's dirt pales in comparisons to Obama's, yet Americans who don't watch Fox News have only heard about his dirt through McCain's commercials.

You guys can hate on Fox News all day, but its the only network that has the intellectual honesty to play democrat and republican stories.

[somewhatgifted]

HAhaha fox news yer funny rob! Palin wants to make it illegal for a raped 15 year old, raped by her father , to get an abortion. You know why? becasue she THINKs in her PERSONAL opinion... that life begins at conception. SO the morning after pill is also going to be ILLEGAL if she gets the chance! I can only imagine how wonderful the world is going to be if she gets any input.

Everyone has faults but do you want your rights subject to miss Palins personal opinions????

Ron paul is hilarious because he and many others, myself included, are baffled by the rediculous circle jerk going on in the economy with nothing being done to do any good.

[RobInKuwait]

Originally Posted by somewhatgifted

Everyone has faults but do you want your rights subject to miss Palins personal opinions????

Freedom of speech is a personal opinion written into the Bill of Rights. The right to bear arms is a personal opinion written into the Bill of Rights.

Any law out there is someone's personal opinion.

Just cause you don't agree with her interpretation of when life begins doesn't mean her opinion is stupid. Over 20% of Americans agree are against abortions in all circumstances.

[Fastone]

Originally Posted by RobInKuwait

Freedom of speech is a personal opinion written into the Bill of Rights. The right to bear arms is a personal opinion written into the Bill of Rights.

Any law out there is someone's personal opinion.

Just cause you don't agree with her interpretation of when life begins doesn't mean her opinion is stupid. Over 20% of Americans agree are against abortions in all circumstances.

The point is who is she and that 20% to tell the rest of us how to live. Because they have a special God that the rest of us supposedly don't, they're special and should dictate to the rest of society what's right and wrong?. Something that they also don't realize or wish to acknowledge is that most so called liberals don't like abortion either, they just choose to leave that decision to the individual and their God.

[somewhatgifted]

Whats the point of democracy when %20 dictates to the other apparently less important %80. And once again "her personal opinion."

Its my personal opinion that cell phones kill... OR.. Due to scientific studies.... i feel i am representing the majority of americans, according to recent polls, when i say... I will make cell phones illegal. This is a rough example of course.

[slow-mun]

Originally Posted by somewhatgifted

Whats the point of democracy when %20 dictates to the other apparently less important %80. And once again "her personal opinion."

Its my personal opinion that cell phones kill... OR.. Due to scientific studies.... i feel i am representing the majority of americans, according to recent polls, when i say... I will make cell phones illegal. This is a rough example of course.

[RobInKuwait]

Originally Posted by somewhatgifted

Whats the point of democracy when %20 dictates to the other apparently less important %80. And once again "her personal opinion."

Its my personal opinion that cell phones kill... OR.. Due to scientific studies.... i feel i am representing the majority of americans, according to recent polls, when i say... I will make cell phones illegal. This is a rough example of course.

You're making a very complicated legal and moral issue very simplistic.

27% of people believe in abortions in all cases.
22% of people believe in no abortions in all cases.
51% of people believe in cases of rape or incest.

Tell me why what 27% of people believe is the law of the land? I

Another issue is that there are states in which upwards of 80-90% of the population are pro-life. Why shouldn't they have the power to make that a state law?

Me personally? I don't care one way or another, so I guess I'm pro-choice, but that doesn't mean I think that people that are pro-life are stupid. In an ideal world I'd be pro-life, but with all the entitlement programs my taxes pay for, abortion makes too much sense and I wish more people would do them.

I hate how much time and research I spend on posts responding to your ignorance and hairbrained conspiracy theories.

[Turd]

Sarh Palin is a freaking joke. She claims she's so tough but can't answer the simplest of question. The Repubs have got her locked away from the media like some Rapunzel. The only time she does a decent interview is when she does a "do over" on Fox. The whole folksy thing is getting a bit old she seems more of a caricature than a person.

[somewhatgifted]

Originally Posted by RobInKuwait

You're making a very complicated legal and moral issue very simplistic.

27% of people believe in abortions in all cases.
22% of people believe in no abortions in all cases.
51% of people believe in cases of rape or incest.

Tell me why what 27% of people believe is the law of the land? I

Another issue is that there are states in which upwards of 80-90% of the population are pro-life. Why shouldn't they have the power to make that a state law?

Me personally? I don't care one way or another, so I guess I'm pro-choice, but that doesn't mean I think that people that are pro-life are stupid. In an ideal world I'd be pro-life, but with all the entitlement programs my taxes pay for, abortion makes too much sense and I wish more people would do them.

I hate how much time and research I spend on posts responding to your ignorance and hairbrained conspiracy theories.

The point once again.... is that she didnt have a toughtout intelligent answer. She said it was her "personal opinion" not further validated or justified by anything. If she had done ANY research she would have had more of a reason that just her whims, compared to science or the peoples opinion.

So many politicians skirt real answers and i think we should demand somthing with atleast some substance ( the questioner demanded) "so what is your answer", instead of 100 words and none of them useful except to state a potential possibility. Noone wants to take a solid stance incase it hurts them, so they are neither here nor there. Palin takes a stances and when doing so in my opinion you should be able to back it up with more than "its my personal belief" shes a representative of the people not a dictator to them.

You "hate how much time you spend researching" my "hair brained theories"
Your admitting that you didnt know before hand and learned somthing!!
I (through my apparent ignorance) educated you on this topic.

You love throwing that phrase around and simply put there are no simple answers or one sentence explanations for this world, myself included. You my friend have alot of growing up to do until you realise what really matters in life is what you are missing, it cant be found on google, in a forum or taught in school. You lack a general respect for anyone who doesnt agree with you and use ignorance and some facts to vaidate dissrespect and intolerance to difference of opinion. Class, virtue, independance, respect and humility are words you should look up.
I am entitled to my opinions and i believe i have made a valid point here and dont understand how that makes me "hair brained" atleast in this instance.

[LakeMountD]

Originally Posted by jarhead

talking about the bailout made the comment that "our politicians are listening to their costituates, which means betty sue sitting at home in oklahoma decided the fate of this bailout and that's not right." I almost lost it. When did that become a BAD thing?! That is the way it was SUPPOSED to be. It's almost as if we are being trained to be accepting of this **** and these ideas.

This is how it is supposed to be, yes. And I agree it should stay like that. But sometimes, especially in this case, I think the congressman should vote the way they feel would be best for the country because lets face it Betty Sue in Oklahoma never even took economics 101 and all she thinks about is, "those damn government people stealing my money and given it to the damn banks". Obviously that is an exaggeration and frankly we shouldn't have gotten to this point in the first place, but that doesn't change the fact that we are here. I absolutely hate the media but lets face it, don't just point the finger at Fox, I am disgusted by CNN and refuse to even give them a second of my time. Obama could be the first ever media elected president and it is absurd. Honestly though it goes back to the fact that many people make uneducated votes and that is just something we have to deal with. As the years go by people have forgotten more and more how powerful their vote can be. They vote off of ads on tv, the media, or what Joe Schmoe told them.

As for the bailout we can only point the fingers back at ourselves just as much as we can point them at the government. Yes the government should have seen this coming and prevented securitization (the real reason we are in the mess) but the bottom line is we were too irresponsible. People in th