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    Keep trying. If you yell it out loud enough, it might come true.


    As for the other issues, its ok to admit you have no idea what you are talking about. Its not a crime to be completely and utterly wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrogant View Post
    America’s 2nd Reaction, Having Slept On It — Friday Debate Should Be Held On Friday

    24 hours after John McCain suspended his campaign for president and asked to postpone tomorrow’s (Friday 09/26/08) scheduled presidential debate, SurveyUSA today Thursday 09/25/08 conducted a 2nd nationwide survey, that tracked a number of questions from SurveyUSA’s 1st nationwide survey conducted Wednesday 09/24/08 immediately after McCain’s announcement. Key findings from nationwide 09/25/08 survey of 1,200 adults:

    3 of 4 Americans say the Friday debate should be held on Friday.
    SurveyUSA » Blog Archive » America’s 2nd Reaction, Having Slept On It — Friday Debate Should Be Held On Friday
    I don't care what the people think. They don't know ****.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rugger View Post
    statistically 1200 isn't a large enough sample size
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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Peterman View Post
    Keep trying. If you yell it out loud enough, it might come true.


    As for the other issues, its ok to admit you have no idea what you are talking about. Its not a crime to be completely and utterly wrong.


    Two responses in a row that lack any substance.

    Bravo.

    You could have just said "Yes, I've got the blinders on and I'm only going to talk about that specific comment, because I know that McCain has deep ties to the Keating Five, has Phil Gramm as his top financial adviser, and has been a leading proponent of deregulation...and I find it laughable that he's now claiming to be a regulator."

    Had you said that, I'd at least sympathize with the fact that you're just a little lemming, willing to follow whomever the GOP trots out there.


    McSame, 9/18:


    "Under my reforms, the American people will be protected by comprehensive regulations that will apply the rules and enforce them in full.''

    And in March:

    "I’m always for less regulation...I am fundamentally a deregulator."

    Palin impressively managed to call for more government and less government -- in the same stump speech.

    "Guys and gals, our regulatory system is outdated and needs a complete overhaul...We are going to reform the way Wall Street does business...”

    And later,

    Palin went on to say that “government has got to get out of the way” to allow the private sector to create jobs and that she would “recognize that it's not government to be looked at to solve all the problems.”


    Just think, if McCain got his way and was able to privatize Social Security, things would be even better!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Peterman View Post
    Keep trying. If you yell it out loud enough, it might come true.


    As for the other issues, its ok to admit you have no idea what you are talking about. Its not a crime to be completely and utterly wrong.

    You'd be in jail!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrogant View Post
    Two responses in a row that lack any substance.

    Bravo.

    You could have just said "Yes, I've got the blinders on and I'm only going to talk about that specific comment, because I know that McCain has deep ties to the Keating Five, has Phil Gramm as his top financial adviser, and has been a leading proponent of deregulation...and I find it laughable that he's now claiming to be a regulator."

    Actually I posted 2 articles that show you have no idea what you are talking about in terms of this financial crisis, and also the 2005 Regulatory Act that he co sponsored favoring regulation of Fannie and Freddie Mac.

    All you do is repeat the same old talking points that are repeated nightly by Keith Olbermann. Come up with something new...dig harder in those left wing blogs...I know there is more there!


    Here..pick a story, any story!

    Daily Kos: State of the Nation




    You're an angry man that hates McCain/Palin so much that you will do or say anything to try to make them look bad..facts be damned.

    Now you're bringing up the Keating FIve? Its just really sad.

    If you need help in understanding any of this I can certainly help you but I suggest popping some Prozac..maybe take a run....open the window and yell outside..yell into a pillow, etc... to release all that emotion you have bottled up


    I think we just found the liberal equivalent of CNorris
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    You'd be in jail!



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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Peterman View Post
    Actually I posted 2 articles that show you have no idea what you are talking about in terms of this financial crisis, and also the 2005 Regulatory Act that he co sponsored favoring regulation of Fannie and Freddie Mac.

    All you do is repeat the same old talking points that are repeated nightly by Keith Olbermann. Come up with something new...dig harder in those left wing blogs...I know there is more there!


    Here..pick a story, any story!

    Daily Kos: State of the Nation




    You're an angry man that hates McCain/Palin so much that you will do or say anything to try to make them look bad..facts be damned.

    Now you're bringing up the Keating FIve? Its just really sad.

    If you need help in understanding any of this I can certainly help you but I suggest popping some Prozac..maybe take a run....open the window and yell outside..yell into a pillow, etc... to release all that emotion you have bottled up


    I think we just found the liberal equivalent of CNorris
    In the 1995, he backed an unsuccessful effort to create a moratorium on all new government regulation.
    http://www.johnmccain.com/informing/...6205edd8d1.htm

    And in 1996, he was one of only five senators to oppose a comprehensive telecommunications act, saying it did not go far enough in deregulating the industry.

    In 1999, McCain voted for the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which passed in the Senate by a vote of 54-44. The deregulation bill loosened restrictions on the activities of banks, brokerage houses, and insurance companies.
    http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LI...n=1&vote=00105

    That bill allowed AIG to participate in the gold rush of a rapidly expanding global banking and investment market. But the legislation also helped pave the way for companies such as AIG and Lehman Brothers to become behemoths laden with bad loans and investments.

    McCain now condemns the executives at those companies for pursuing the ambitions that the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act made possible, saying that "in an endless quest for easy money, they dreamed up investment schemes that they themselves don't even understand."


    In 2002 he voted for the Sarbanes-Oxley Act, which passed the Senate without opposition.


    In 2007, however, McCain stated that he regretted his vote in favor of Sarbanes-Oxley, which strengthened financial reporting requirements for publicly held companies but which has been the subject of complaints from businesses.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...603732_pf.html



    I do agree with you that the Keating Five is very sad.
    Perhaps this article out of Phoenix in 1989 will enlighten others about it: McCain: The Most Reprehensible of the Keating Five
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    At least McCain has written a bill
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    "I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole"






    Its got to hurt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Peterman View Post
    JP You stole my picture, you know that's John McCain staying the course.

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    Bush stays the course, McCain alters the course and gets a lot of publicity for doing so!
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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Peterman View Post
    "I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole"
    JP, do you have a link to this quote....I can't find it and I'm having an email debate with my dad. He drank some of this:
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    i wish either of these two had an idea of how to run an economy. does anyone besides me wonder if this would have happened if bill gates managed to become president? i mean, besides microsoft being required software for banks...

    thats all i got, no more politics for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobInKuwait View Post
    JP, do you have a link to this quote....I can't find it and I'm having an email debate with my dad. He drank some of this:
    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/reco...&bill=s109-190
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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Peterman View Post
    Bush stays the course, McCain alters the course and gets a lot of publicity for doing so!
    The only problem is the course he is on is in the dessert and he's driving a Ford "Maverick". You might have heard how good they were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Peterman View Post
    Fannie and Freddie sold bundles of these mortgages to investors, then those investors sold them to other people in the form of mortgage backed securities, then that buyer has them insured through companies like AIG, etc....it was basically flipping large loan packages based on the idea that house values would increase.

    Then the original loans went into default because the people couldn't pay them, the value of the properties dropped, and the whole house of cards fell apart. You basically built this house of cards on sub prime loans and the idea that prices would continue to rise.

    Now all these people who have the mortgage backed securities on their books have extremely bad credit ratings and basically can't borrow or lend and these are the institutions who lend money to large business's who constantly use credit lines for inventory, payroll, growth, etc...

    This isn't just banks that did this. Pension funds, investment banks, insurance carriers, etc...all bought this stuff as an "investment".



    And that's a very simplistic way of looking at it...
    dead on there mr peterman. out of curiosity, why didn't the government freeze the ARM's from adjusting when they had the chance? is our current treasurer not as smart as greenspan was during black tuesday?
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    You mean stay the course when McCain supported the surge despite public opinion, and then the surge worked? I guess you got him there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fastone View Post
    The only problem is the course he is on is in the dessert and he's driving a Ford "Maverick". You might have heard how good they were.
    better than a corvair i hope. ok, seriously, thats all the politics for me. will check up to see mr petermans response though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suncloud View Post
    why didn't the government freeze the ARM's from adjusting when they had the chance? is our current treasurer not as smart as greenspan was during black tuesday?

    They have on many of the worst loans when they passed the housing bill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suncloud View Post
    i wish either of these two had an idea of how to run an economy. does anyone besides me wonder if this would have happened if bill gates managed to become president? i mean, besides microsoft being required software for banks...

    thats all i got, no more politics for me.
    if bill gates was president we'd be in a war of conquest of the world....
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    if bill gates was president we'd be in a war of conquest of the world....
    At least Seinfeld would be a cabinet member.....
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    So as it turned out, the McCain campaign was never suspended. Commericals ran across the country, and the Florida campaign office sent out email blasts to rally the troops.

    McCain vowed to stay in DC until the crisis was over.

    But faced with the prospect of Obama getting a one-on-one interview and 100 million viewers, McCain changed course in less than 24 hrs.
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    Does this mean you're not angry anymore?


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    Rob,

    You know the facts just get in the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Peterman View Post
    Rob,

    You know the facts just get in the way.
    True....sorry

    What do you think about the House Republican's plan?
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    you gotta love this clip.... "I couldn't disagree with you... I couldn't agree with you more" all in the same sentence...


    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnE-YJ---GI"]YouTube - McCain Accidentally Agrees with Murtha About Voters in PA[/ame]

    watch this a few times .... its funny as hell
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    As far as public speeches go, mccain blows. Flip/flop. Im sure if theres any money to be made from him as president he will win ala gore/bush 2000.
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