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Old 09-20-2008, 01:23 AM   #1
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Dems vs Republicans: Why the Harsh Polarization?

Being from up north I sometimes raise an eyebrow because of how adversarial US politics can be. We have our share of crooks and dimwits in our political system but they are not so firmly and clearly divided.

Why can't a democrat support a 'conservative' economic initiative? After all, the US is THE free-market economy.

Why can't a republican support a 'liberal' personal freedom initiative? After all, the US is the land of the free...
 
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Old 09-20-2008, 01:54 AM   #3
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Being from up north I sometimes raise an eyebrow because of how adversarial US politics can be. We have our share of crooks and dimwits in our political system but they are not so firmly and clearly divided.

Why can't a democrat support a 'conservative' economic initiative? After all, the US is THE free-market economy.

Why can't a republican support a 'liberal' personal freedom initiative? After all, the US is the land of the free...
Agreed.

I used to be a hardcore republican, but I don't believe in everything they advocate.

-Pro guns
-Pro Military
-Pro abortion
-Pro legalizing soft drugs like amsterdam
-Pro stopping affirmative action
-Pro less government, less taxes
-Pro increasing standards for getting EBT/Food stamps (since most people I see use em for party foods and mixers.)
-Anti religion, anti teaching evolution, creationism or intelligent design in school.
-Pro not being able to trial former Military members in a civilian court.
-Pro harsher sentences for violent crimes, but abolish minimum sentences and at the same time, 100% of the time MUST be served, Death penalties to be carried out within 10 days.

Something like that for now.
 
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Old 09-20-2008, 02:12 AM   #4
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An entrenched two party system is polarizing in nature. If you compare the US to many countries in Europe, the party platforms in the US are comprehensive and Europe are more single issue parties, which often ally with other parties.

Basically if I say, "I like tall chicks," then you say "I like short chicks", we've got all chicks covered and theres no room for a third party.
 
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Old 09-20-2008, 02:17 AM   #5
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An entrenched two party system is polarizing in nature. If you compare the US to many countries in Europe, the party platforms in the US are comprehensive and Europe are more single issue parties, which often ally with other parties.

Basically if I say, "I like tall chicks," then you say "I like short chicks", we've got all chicks covered and theres no room for a third party.
Short, Average, Tall.

There's room for average height chicks, 5' 3" being the average female height in the US, what you covered is females significantly over 5'3" and females significantly under 5'3".

Who do you work for Rob?........
 
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Old 09-20-2008, 03:12 AM   #6
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Short, Average, Tall.

There's room for average height chicks, 5' 3" being the average female height in the US, what you covered is females significantly over 5'3" and females significantly under 5'3".

Who do you work for Rob?........
The government.
 
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Old 09-20-2008, 03:37 AM   #7
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The government.
What do you think about midgets?
 
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Old 09-20-2008, 03:41 AM   #8
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What do you think about midgets?
I would love to do more than think about midgets!

 
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Old 09-20-2008, 11:20 AM   #9
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An entrenched two party system is polarizing in nature. If you compare the US to many countries in Europe, the party platforms in the US are comprehensive and Europe are more single issue parties, which often ally with other parties.

Basically if I say, "I like tall chicks," then you say "I like short chicks", we've got all chicks covered and theres no room for a third party.
Yeah I get that, but you could also say, "I like all chicks" and get twice as much action. 2x action is better than 1x action no?

Why do people have such a hard time getting past all the rhetoric and voting with their brains and not their emotions? Seems like the last few campaigns have been really good at playing peoples' heartstrings without taking positions that benefiting the majority. Kinda ends up that you guys get a government of the people, by the people, for SOME of the people...
 
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Yeah I get that, but you could also say, "I like all chicks" and get twice as much action. 2x action is better than 1x action no?
I think I even lost myself on the chick metaphor. I can't even figure out what I was trying to say anymore, let alone what you mean

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Why do people have such a hard time getting past all the rhetoric and voting with their brains and not their emotions? Seems like the last few campaigns have been really good at playing peoples' heartstrings without taking positions that benefiting the majority. Kinda ends up that you guys get a government of the people, by the people, for SOME of the people...
Guess it all depends on what you think will benefit you the most. I feel like by benefitting a minority (the rich) with tax cuts, you can benefit the majority with results. Aka trickle down economics.
 
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Which as we found out in 80's only sh!t trickles down. The Fat cats got fatter, remember Michael Milken




 



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Which as we found out in 80's only sh!t trickles down. The Fat cats got fatter, remember Michael Milken




I'd say we did pretty good in the 80s. I don't think thats a valid argument to disprove trickle down economics.
 
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I'd say we did pretty good in the 80s. I don't think thats a valid argument to disprove trickle down economics.
You were a young child in the 80's, what do you really remember.

 



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You were a young child in the 80's, what do you really remember.

 
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I remember that movie, cant feed them after midnight or get them wet

 



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